GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T110 center (Soviet)

New units - 3 mech brig


Leningrad front are starting to link nicely with North Caucasus Front

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T110 south (Soviet)


It is really hard to punch through defences supported by panzers in reserves mode.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T111 overall (German)


Only one German attack. It has taken place in central part of the Front.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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Unless it was really valuable real estate, I can't think of anything that would make an Axis player happy with this attack. Less than 3:2 in losses. The only thing lacking is 300 more Soviet fighters and 100 Il-2's. [;)]


BTW, Airbases can best be placed on functional rail hexes to save vehicles.
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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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gingerbread

Unless it was really valuable real estate, I can't think of anything that would make an Axis player happy with this attack. Less than 3:2 in losses. The only thing lacking is 300 more Soviet fighters and 100 Il-2's.


BTW, Airbases can best be placed on functional rail hexes to save vehicles.


He makes that kind of attacks very rarely, just to remind me not to get too adventurous.

That is good piece of advice, especially that I struggle with vehicles and it will get worse once I finish my ambitious plan of building 20+ mech corps.
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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T111 center (Soviet)

New units - 3 mech brig


I know, that reducing Voronezh won't get me much closer to Berlin, but it is same case like with fighting south of Stalingrad - acceptance that win is impossible and preparing army for year '44 and fight to draw.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T111 south (Soviet)


Increasing number and quality of mech corps makes hit and run attacks undertaken south east of Stalingrad more numerous.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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Your army is now stronger than the german one. You should change your way of thinking and begin to press him on the whole front.

Several strategic options are up to you:
- the obvious one: Rostov
- The seconday: extending the front from Astrakhan to Stalingrad. He will not be able to follow you.
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The fear must change of side.



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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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The German armored formations will slowly bleed to death. Everytime they enter the battle from reserve decreases their capacity next turn. The key is to have lots of anti-tank assets and artillery to make this as expensive as possible. Hit the Panzers with airpower, especially using Sturmoviks, in the area of the attacks. Are you using reserves for your attack and are your commanders good?
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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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Kamil, I really think you should be raising a lot more artillery divisions. Mech corps will not solve your fundamental problem here: cracking the fort line. You have a semi open flank to play with, true, but the Axis can give that up at any time and make a fully continuous front line by falling back to Rostov. The flank is just buying him time.

It is the rifle corps and the artillery division that are going to win the war for you, not the mobile forces, by relentlessly beating the Whermacht into a pulp.



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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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It is the rifle corps and the artillery division that are going to win the war for you, not the mobile forces, by relentlessly beating the Whermacht into a pulp.


I tend to think You are right (it is late '43, I need to catch up with AAR). I got a bit overexcited with increasing size of mobile forces because I was afraid that density of my troops was not high enough to protect me from German penetration.
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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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43 is a static yr for GHC or should be. Sapper is not really that dugin unless he is building a 43/44 winter line back a hundred miles.

There are several 90 hex fronts the GHC can defend before the rivers.

Allots going to depend on the manpower crunch.

I could be wrong but looking at past AAR's SHC needs to keep OOB around 7 million or it cant reaaly put that much presser on GHC.

key number for GHC is 2.6 million, if they were able to build morale during 42 of which GHC did.

The panzer #s are basicly meaningless, GHC has more then enough equipment to keep them active the hole war. The numbers fall. but during mud seasons panzer unit CV bounces back to close to max by the next season.

At this point GHC needs to have about 60 divisions in static/3 to 5 hexes of forts/ a 2nd fort line being built back to west more/ use reserve mode and simply keep lines static from north to Stalingrad.

Kamil has more exp from 43-45 so I expect he will be doing everything right and Sapper will be feeling things out.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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Anything new going on here?
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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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M60A3TTS

Anything new going on here?


I do not have energy at the moment to continue with AAR, but struggle continues.
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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T140 north (German) 17 Feb '44


This is last turn of my game vs Saper, beginning of Soviet moves.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T140 centre (German)


Slow grind forward.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T140 centre/south (Soviet)


Same situation here.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T140 south (German)


Second turn of intensive fighting. Last turn my advancing mobile units were encircled, I managed to open pocket, but it was resealed again.

Pocket is breakable.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T140 south (Soviet)


Broken pocket - turn not finished.

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RE: GC41 - Saper222 (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov) (No Saper222)

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T140 OOB (German)


OOB and production

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