What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? Now allowed for Oloren!
Moderators: Joel Billings, Sabre21
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
You have maxed out your APs. I hope that you've also already maximized all possible C&C, leaders, etc... although I do see some Axis Allied troops in the front line attached to High Commands. They will suffer penalties in combat.
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
ORIGINAL: Schmart
You have maxed out your APs. I hope that you've also already maximized all possible C&C, leaders, etc... although I do see some Axis Allied troops in the front line attached to High Commands. They will suffer penalties in combat.
Yeah, you are right, seems there are some Rumanians to place. Will get on it, nice catch!
Terje
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
Turn 49
Overall
Guess begging the weathergods did no good. Mud strikes again, so the USSR will be able to withdraw from the formed salient it seems [:@]
The USSR tries to spring free the best units that were trapped, but failed to dislodge the defenders with their attack this turn. We on the other hand made 23 attacks, scoring 7 retreats, 5 routs, 1 shatter and 10 surrenders.
USSR units in pockets at start of turn
29.
USSR units in pockets at end of turn
0.
Losses
USSR : 228.000 troops, 2.504 guns, 126 AFVs, 132 AC.
Axis : 34.000 troops, 203 guns, 53 AFVs, 50 AC.
USSR units destroyed
13 rifle divisions, 3 tank brigades, 14 rifle brigades. (215 AP)
German pools
Manpower : 55
Vehicles : 168.429
Armaments : 149.205
Hiwi : 11

Overall
Guess begging the weathergods did no good. Mud strikes again, so the USSR will be able to withdraw from the formed salient it seems [:@]
The USSR tries to spring free the best units that were trapped, but failed to dislodge the defenders with their attack this turn. We on the other hand made 23 attacks, scoring 7 retreats, 5 routs, 1 shatter and 10 surrenders.
USSR units in pockets at start of turn
29.
USSR units in pockets at end of turn
0.
Losses
USSR : 228.000 troops, 2.504 guns, 126 AFVs, 132 AC.
Axis : 34.000 troops, 203 guns, 53 AFVs, 50 AC.
USSR units destroyed
13 rifle divisions, 3 tank brigades, 14 rifle brigades. (215 AP)
German pools
Manpower : 55
Vehicles : 168.429
Armaments : 149.205
Hiwi : 11

- Attachments
-
- 66.jpg (372.85 KiB) Viewed 395 times
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
It's May 1942, which means your opponent can group the rifle brigades into divisions, but hasn't done it?
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
ORIGINAL: randallw
It's May 1942, which means your opponent can group the rifle brigades into divisions, but hasn't done it?
He admits to have created too many units, so my guess is that he is desperately short on APs
Terje
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
Turn 50
Overall
Clear in the most important area, so we end up forming another pocket this turn. The bad news is that we are now seing alot of USSR stacks with 40+ defensive CV, the good news is that we force them to retreat with a pre-battle CV ratio of 1:1. Still it forces me to keep attacking with stacks, and hence the ammount of available moves is reduced, which again means that the pockets formed end up smaller than they could have been with easier resistance.
Nevertheless, at the end of the turn, we have performed 69 attacks, resulting in 2 helds, 49 retreats, 16 routs and 2 shatters. I like the fact that the number of held results are down considerably.
USSR units in pockets at start of turn
0.
USSR units in pockets at end of turn
44.
Losses
USSR : 118.000 troops, 1.609 guns, 194 AFVs, 279 AC.
Axis : 42.000 troops, 425 guns, 106 AFVs, 30 AC.
USSR units destroyed
1 rifle division (10 AP).
Partisan units chased down
2. 1 remaining on the map.
German pools
Manpower : 266
Vehicle : 164.808
Armaments : 146.289
Hiwi : 16
[:@]-factor
10th Panzer Division is withdrawn this turn.

Overall
Clear in the most important area, so we end up forming another pocket this turn. The bad news is that we are now seing alot of USSR stacks with 40+ defensive CV, the good news is that we force them to retreat with a pre-battle CV ratio of 1:1. Still it forces me to keep attacking with stacks, and hence the ammount of available moves is reduced, which again means that the pockets formed end up smaller than they could have been with easier resistance.
Nevertheless, at the end of the turn, we have performed 69 attacks, resulting in 2 helds, 49 retreats, 16 routs and 2 shatters. I like the fact that the number of held results are down considerably.
USSR units in pockets at start of turn
0.
USSR units in pockets at end of turn
44.
Losses
USSR : 118.000 troops, 1.609 guns, 194 AFVs, 279 AC.
Axis : 42.000 troops, 425 guns, 106 AFVs, 30 AC.
USSR units destroyed
1 rifle division (10 AP).
Partisan units chased down
2. 1 remaining on the map.
German pools
Manpower : 266
Vehicle : 164.808
Armaments : 146.289
Hiwi : 16
[:@]-factor
10th Panzer Division is withdrawn this turn.

- Attachments
-
- 67.jpg (785.7 KiB) Viewed 395 times
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
Rifle brigades can be combined into divisions with no cost.
You are in a period ( April-May 1942 ) where the Germans have a lot of transition in the Pv IV; the Pz IVf was produced March-April, then the Pz IVg begins in May. This info is from the equipment database.
You are in a period ( April-May 1942 ) where the Germans have a lot of transition in the Pv IV; the Pz IVf was produced March-April, then the Pz IVg begins in May. This info is from the equipment database.
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
ORIGINAL: randallw
Rifle brigades can be combined into divisions with no cost.
You are in a period ( April-May 1942 ) where the Germans have a lot of transition in the Pv IV; the Pz IVf was produced March-April, then the Pz IVg begins in May. This info is from the equipment database.
Yup, slowly switching to the Pz IVg now, 3 units have made the change so far.
No AP cost for combining those brigades?! Hmm WAY too long since I played as the USSR it seems.
Terje
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
Wow nice job so far.
You only need to destroy about 200 rifle divisions or 2000 AP of units. Your opponent is having issues.
As GHC your not going to be getting huge pockets during early 42.
If you think a little during 41 you and most poeple for that matter dont get many pocketed units after June 41.
The SHC is forsed to fight forward in 42 and pockets are to be had every wheres if you follow the AAR's much.
Your doing very good its spring and your really hitting him hard.
Early 42 is about small pockets 8 to 16 units per turn. It will only take about 8 turns and SHC is thinned out and then huge pockets are possible.
Your doing fine so far. Your 41 summer was horrible, but you did not lose much during blizzard which means your in the drivers seat for the summer.
As I posted a while ago, pocket units and push past the rivers by atleast 10 hexes and you have a shot at a draw.
He only has 7.1 million men, get below 6 and hes toast. All those routes are crushing his moral keep it up.
Ignore what your OOB is and tank numbers focus on his OOB and pocketing 10 divisions per turn. 100 AP
You only need to destroy about 200 rifle divisions or 2000 AP of units. Your opponent is having issues.
As GHC your not going to be getting huge pockets during early 42.
If you think a little during 41 you and most poeple for that matter dont get many pocketed units after June 41.
The SHC is forsed to fight forward in 42 and pockets are to be had every wheres if you follow the AAR's much.
Your doing very good its spring and your really hitting him hard.
Early 42 is about small pockets 8 to 16 units per turn. It will only take about 8 turns and SHC is thinned out and then huge pockets are possible.
Your doing fine so far. Your 41 summer was horrible, but you did not lose much during blizzard which means your in the drivers seat for the summer.
As I posted a while ago, pocket units and push past the rivers by atleast 10 hexes and you have a shot at a draw.
He only has 7.1 million men, get below 6 and hes toast. All those routes are crushing his moral keep it up.
Ignore what your OOB is and tank numbers focus on his OOB and pocketing 10 divisions per turn. 100 AP
Beta Tester WitW & WitE
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
ORIGINAL: Pelton
Wow nice job so far.
You only need to destroy about 200 rifle divisions or 2000 AP of units. Your opponent is having issues.
As GHC your not going to be getting huge pockets during early 42.
If you think a little during 41 you and most poeple for that matter dont get many pocketed units after June 41.
The SHC is forsed to fight forward in 42 and pockets are to be had every wheres if you follow the AAR's much.
Your doing very good its spring and your really hitting him hard.
Early 42 is about small pockets 8 to 16 units per turn. It will only take about 8 turns and SHC is thinned out and then huge pockets are possible.
Your doing fine so far. Your 41 summer was horrible, but you did not lose much during blizzard which means your in the drivers seat for the summer.
As I posted a while ago, pocket units and push past the rivers by atleast 10 hexes and you have a shot at a draw.
He only has 7.1 million men, get below 6 and hes toast. All those routes are crushing his moral keep it up.
Ignore what your OOB is and tank numbers focus on his OOB and pocketing 10 divisions per turn. 100 AP
Thank you [:)]
However Brad claims he had 600 units on the board at the end of Blizzard, if so, I will need to kill off alot more than we have done so far, but it all depends on the weather now. Had not the previous turn had mud, I should have pocketed far more units this turn, but I'll take what I can.
But the goal is indeed to put the hurt on his AP, so any pocket is welcome ofc
Now I just need to figure out something clever to do as to dislodge him from some of his more dug in positions, so I can push him all across the front and not just in some areas.
Terje
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
600 units, wow thats great for you I would say.
Hes only got 7.1 million men. Thats why I said hes having issues, the SHC units CV seems really low and now I know why.
I would say your probably going to have a field day once your over the river. Clear weather for sure each turn is not until turn 54+.
I am really looking forward to this AAR come summer. He really needs to spend some AP and start combining units or hes going to get trashed. It will take you some time to thin things out, but hes CV is really sad. You have no issue pocketing units.
Hes only got 7.1 million men. Thats why I said hes having issues, the SHC units CV seems really low and now I know why.
I would say your probably going to have a field day once your over the river. Clear weather for sure each turn is not until turn 54+.
I am really looking forward to this AAR come summer. He really needs to spend some AP and start combining units or hes going to get trashed. It will take you some time to thin things out, but hes CV is really sad. You have no issue pocketing units.
Beta Tester WitW & WitE
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
Turn 51
Overall
We eliminate the pocket created last turn and form four new ones. Right now it feels oh so good playing the Axis, but I doubt it will last [:D]. The USSR have started to fall back in alot of areas, so we follow up and make attacks where we can.
We ended at 91 attacks this turn, divided as this; 6 helds, 62 retreats, 7 routs, 1 shatter and 15 surrenders. Not a bad turn this one either.
USSR units in pockets at start of turn
43.
USSR units in pockets at end of turn
35.
Partisans chased away
2.
Losses
USSR : 281.000 troops, 3.492 guns, 326 AFVs, 265 AC.
Axis : 48.000 troops, 558 guns, 98 AFVs, 109 AC.
(although 48.000 troops lost is alot, the gain this turn was 57.000, so a net gain of 9.000 troops for the Axis).
USSR units destroyed
9 rifle divisions, 6 tank brigades, 26 rifle brigades, 2 naval rifle brigades (260 AP).
German pools
Manpower : 266
Vehicles : 167.848
Armaments : 146.638
Hiwi : 11
Thinking time
It seems I have two choices as to where to push, need to think about them before the next turn.

Overall
We eliminate the pocket created last turn and form four new ones. Right now it feels oh so good playing the Axis, but I doubt it will last [:D]. The USSR have started to fall back in alot of areas, so we follow up and make attacks where we can.
We ended at 91 attacks this turn, divided as this; 6 helds, 62 retreats, 7 routs, 1 shatter and 15 surrenders. Not a bad turn this one either.
USSR units in pockets at start of turn
43.
USSR units in pockets at end of turn
35.
Partisans chased away
2.
Losses
USSR : 281.000 troops, 3.492 guns, 326 AFVs, 265 AC.
Axis : 48.000 troops, 558 guns, 98 AFVs, 109 AC.
(although 48.000 troops lost is alot, the gain this turn was 57.000, so a net gain of 9.000 troops for the Axis).
USSR units destroyed
9 rifle divisions, 6 tank brigades, 26 rifle brigades, 2 naval rifle brigades (260 AP).
German pools
Manpower : 266
Vehicles : 167.848
Armaments : 146.638
Hiwi : 11
Thinking time
It seems I have two choices as to where to push, need to think about them before the next turn.

- Attachments
-
- 68.jpg (604.96 KiB) Viewed 395 times
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
ORIGINAL: Pelton
600 units, wow thats great for you I would say.
As do both Brad and I [:D]
Terje
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
Turn 52
Dieclaimer
Forgot to note the German pools this turn.
Overall
The USSR falls back across the rivers. While this frees up alot of units for me, it also shows the frailty of my force (see below). We keep attacking, and while we bagged the first corps unit last turn, this turn we bagged our first guard unit. That is something I like, since I only see two of them on the map [:D]. We had way too many held results this turn however, and that is not good, nor is the fact that my panzer and mechanized troops are wearing down rapidly now.
103 attacks resulted in 16 helds, 67 retreats, 7 routs and 13 surrenders. Unfortunately, we did not manage to pocket as many units this turn due to the rivers and USSR fortifications.
USSR units in pockets at start of turn
32.
USSR units in pockets at end of turn
12.
Losses
USSR : 269.000 troops, 3.266 guns, 296 AFVs, 341 AC.
Axis : 41.000 troops, 391 guns, 136 AFVs, 121 AC.
USSR units destroyed
1 cavalry corps, 12 infantry divisions, 6 tank brigades, 10 rifle brigades, 3 naval rifle brigades. (235? AP).
Partisans delt with
3. This turn they actually did some mischief and cut the main rail line in the south. Bastards!
Maps
Shown from North to South.

Dieclaimer
Forgot to note the German pools this turn.
Overall
The USSR falls back across the rivers. While this frees up alot of units for me, it also shows the frailty of my force (see below). We keep attacking, and while we bagged the first corps unit last turn, this turn we bagged our first guard unit. That is something I like, since I only see two of them on the map [:D]. We had way too many held results this turn however, and that is not good, nor is the fact that my panzer and mechanized troops are wearing down rapidly now.
103 attacks resulted in 16 helds, 67 retreats, 7 routs and 13 surrenders. Unfortunately, we did not manage to pocket as many units this turn due to the rivers and USSR fortifications.
USSR units in pockets at start of turn
32.
USSR units in pockets at end of turn
12.
Losses
USSR : 269.000 troops, 3.266 guns, 296 AFVs, 341 AC.
Axis : 41.000 troops, 391 guns, 136 AFVs, 121 AC.
USSR units destroyed
1 cavalry corps, 12 infantry divisions, 6 tank brigades, 10 rifle brigades, 3 naval rifle brigades. (235? AP).
Partisans delt with
3. This turn they actually did some mischief and cut the main rail line in the south. Bastards!
Maps
Shown from North to South.

- Attachments
-
- 69.jpg (613.49 KiB) Viewed 395 times
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
b


- Attachments
-
- 70.jpg (634.1 KiB) Viewed 395 times
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
c


- Attachments
-
- 71.jpg (635.22 KiB) Viewed 395 times
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
d


- Attachments
-
- 72.jpg (637.61 KiB) Viewed 395 times
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
e


- Attachments
-
- 73.jpg (580.75 KiB) Viewed 395 times
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
F(inal)


- Attachments
-
- 74.jpg (540.56 KiB) Viewed 395 times
"Hun skal torpederes!" - Birger Eriksen
("She is to be torpedoed!")
("She is to be torpedoed!")
-
ErsteKavallerieDivision
- Posts: 20
- Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:13 pm
RE: What?! Seriously?! You are back for more??? No Oloren!!
You are making excellent progress 
A few observations:
1. The stack in Riga has an attack CV of 20 and could be reduced. A defence CV of 15 might be sufficient.
2. A couple of the better infantry divisions are in swamp hexes (mainly 4th Army): 70/69, 71/70, 69/66, 75/74. If you don't go on the offensive here, you may use them in the south for your main directions of advance (e.g., replace them by Hungarians).
3. 2nd Panzer Army is dispersed and has at least two Infantry Corps. How about accumulating all Panzer and Mot Divisions (including those of 2nd Army) into the Panzer Armies?
4. 11th Army has Rumanians, which be transferred to a domestic army.
5. As more Hungarian and other allies will arrive in the next couple of weeks, one could think about fortifying the Dnepr line, including forts.
Regards,
Joerg
A few observations:
1. The stack in Riga has an attack CV of 20 and could be reduced. A defence CV of 15 might be sufficient.
2. A couple of the better infantry divisions are in swamp hexes (mainly 4th Army): 70/69, 71/70, 69/66, 75/74. If you don't go on the offensive here, you may use them in the south for your main directions of advance (e.g., replace them by Hungarians).
3. 2nd Panzer Army is dispersed and has at least two Infantry Corps. How about accumulating all Panzer and Mot Divisions (including those of 2nd Army) into the Panzer Armies?
4. 11th Army has Rumanians, which be transferred to a domestic army.
5. As more Hungarian and other allies will arrive in the next couple of weeks, one could think about fortifying the Dnepr line, including forts.
Regards,
Joerg
"Widely terra incognita", Henning von Tresckow on German army's knowledge about Russian reserves (June 21, 1941; at that time chief operations officer of AGC.)

