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RE: Back from London

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If he bases loads of subs at Cocos, can't you just night bomb it as its in Nell and Betty range?
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ORIGINAL: Encircled

If he bases loads of subs at Cocos, can't you just night bomb it as its in Nell and Betty range?
Yeah, plus he's got to keep up the fuel and supplies, juicy targets.
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August 3 1942

We ordered for tomorrow another general attack at Tienshui. I wanna have it!
My divisions have cleared their fatigue/distr levels and are now ready to fight again. supplies are at good levels and it's time to go.

In the Gilberts he ate the bait! My Mavis at Tarawa confirmed the arrival, at flank speed (30 knots) of 5 enemy CLs! The Yamato TF is still undetected... so i ordered to the bait TF(which has thank god finished to unload) to run away, while the Yamato&Co will move south... i expect him to arrive at max speed so to be there at Tabiutea by nighttime... and we all know that in 1942 the japs are almost unbeatable during nighttime engagements!
No sign of enemy CVs nor or other major enemy TF nearby... so i don't believe this is a trap... go and get em!!!!

I also decided to send most of the artillery that took Manila (10 units) back to China. I don't think i desperately need them elsewhere and in China artillery is way too important to let it rot somewhere in the pacific...

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ORIGINAL: Encircled

If he bases loads of subs at Cocos, can't you just night bomb it as its in Nell and Betty range?

Well, yes, i'm building Christmas IO... in order to get a good Netties nest there...but if he bases fighters there i cannot use my precious Netties... yes, at night it may be possible, but i somehow don't like the idea to use night bombers untill night fighters arrive in theatre for the Allies...
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Dark Thoughts on Bombing at Night:  It happened....it happened a lot all thru the war.  However, I have seen an AaR around that uses a very good house rule on night bombing.  The rule limits night bombing to those nights with 50%+ moonlight until 1943.  That makes a lot of sense to me.  Prior to radar being installable on bomber units, one did need some light to bomb even cities.  So, you might mention this and see if a house rule is adaptable to your game.  I really think that is a logical and realistic rule.  They didn't call full moons, "bomber's moons" for nothing.
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Couple of very important days...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 04, 42

The bait dind't work as intended...what should have been a big cruiser TF, revealed itself as a tint 2 DDs TF ...so i wasted lots of ammos against useless targets...
But, more important, i revealed my position for a couple of DDs [:@]

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Tabiteuea at 137,134, Range 20,000 Yards

Japanese Ships
BB Yamato, Shell hits 1
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
CA Kako
DD Yukikaze
DD Maikaze
DD Isokaze, Shell hits 1
DD Shiranui
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Minegumo
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Shirayuki

Allied Ships
DD MacDonough, Shell hits 6, and is sunk
DD Dewey, Shell hits 2, and is sunk


And my ships didn't react at night (yes, we had several Pates on night naval search)....




In China we conquered Kiuchuan, where a battered enemy Army, without any combat power left, succumbed to my tanks...

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Ground combat at Kiuchuan (82,26)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1716 troops, 0 guns, 315 vehicles, Assault Value = 175

Defending force 3934 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 92

Japanese adjusted assault: 225

Allied adjusted defense: 10

Japanese assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kiuchuan !!!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
I-16-III: 1 destroyed

Combat modifiers
Defender: preparation(-), morale(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Allied ground losses:
1501 casualties reported
Squads: 55 destroyed, 18 disabled
Non Combat: 87 destroyed, 13 disabled
Engineers: 9 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 9
Units destroyed 3

Assaulting units:
12th Tank Regiment
5th Armored Car Co
23rd Tank Regiment
9th Tank Regiment
11th Tank Regiment

Defending units:
34th Separate Brigade
19th Chinese Corps
55th Chinese Corps
82nd Chinese/A Corps
8th Chinese Base Force
42nd Chinese Corps
6th Chinese Base Force
15th Chinese Base Force
3rd Chinese Corps
10th Chinese Base Force
5th Chinese Base Force
82nd Chinese/B Corps



But, above all.... Tienshui fell!!!!!...now the gates for northern China are open[8D]

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Ground combat at Tienshui (81,38)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49005 troops, 507 guns, 275 vehicles, Assault Value = 1303

Defending force 48393 troops, 385 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1134

Japanese adjusted assault: 1441

Allied adjusted defense: 670

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tienshui !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1235 casualties reported
Squads: 3 destroyed, 166 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Vehicles lost 34 (3 destroyed, 31 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
16624 casualties reported
Squads: 224 destroyed, 60 disabled
Non Combat: 205 destroyed, 51 disabled
Engineers: 93 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 89 (82 destroyed, 7 disabled)
Units retreated 14

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
15th Tank Regiment
35th Division
27th Division
13th Tank Regiment
37th Division
41st Division
1st Mortar Battalion
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
Mongol Garrison Army
6th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
5th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
80th Chinese Corps
12th Chinese Corps
89th Chinese Corps
92nd Chinese Corps
14th Chinese Corps
76th Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps
3rd Chinese Cavalry Corps
14th Group Army
38th Chinese Corps
4th Group Army
85th Chinese Corps
1st Construction Regiment
57th AT Gun Regiment






But the real news of the day is that a glenn-equipped sub, operating near Canton Is, spotted an enemy CV southwest of it!!! So he is really coming for Tabiutea (or at least that's what i thought-see later)!
No other ships are spotted...but at Canton the usual CL-TF is spotted by Emilies... so i retreated the Yamato TF back to Tarawa and ordered to the KB to immediately move at Flank Speed from Ponape to Tarawa area. All my G3N3s have been allerted at Makin and more Mavis are being trasfered from the Solomons, along with 100 Zeros and more 60 Betties!




AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 05, 42

On the night of the 5th the confirmation arrived... a huge enemy fleet is operating around Canton Is. The SS I-7 (glenn equipeed...the one who spotted the CV the day before) confirmed the presence of the POW and of several enemy CAs...


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ASW attack near Enderbury Island at 155,142

Japanese Ships
SS I-7

Allied Ships
DD Drayton
BB Prince of Wales
CA Houston
CA Indianapolis
CLAA San Diego
DD Flusser
DD Perkins
DD Case



During the morning, below several showers, a HUGE enemy fleet is spotted 1 hex east of Baker Island. So Tabiutea doesn't seem to be his first target... All my Nells weren't able to locate the target (starting from Makin is a long long way!) and none of the attacked...

But in the afternoon, after another several of contacts reported by the Mavises, a group of 13 G3N3s finally found the enemy invasion fleet...(more than 20 bombers didn't locate the target and returned to base!)...
President Polk is attacked and hit by 3 torps and immediately sunk, bringing down nearly 1300 men! Also the CL Detroit is hit! BANZAI!


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Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Baker Island at 150,136

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 9,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 9 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 3 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak

Allied Ships
AP President Monroe
AK Alchiba
AP President Polk, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
CL Detroit, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
1268 casualties reported
Squads: 62 destroyed, 28 disabled
Non Combat: 50 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 8 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 52 (52 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Vehicles lost 20 (20 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 45cm Type 91 Torp


Enemy CVs are spotted again...now we have a visual confirmation...north of Canton Island CVs and BBs are reported moving northwest...

The KB didn't move as planned (as always!) and only did 12 hexes instead of the planned 16!...we're still pretty far away.
I'm also collecting all the subs i have in the area from PH down to Pago Pago. Sending also the flottilla based at Kwalajein (8subs). In 3/4 days i should be able to have at least 16 subs around Canton Is.
The KB is divided in 3 different TFs, while another SCTF (2 BBs, 4 CLs, 8 DDs) is moving from Rabaul.
We'll refuel at Tarawa and then we'll try to engage at Flank Speed...the only problem is that the enemy alread arrived at 1 hex south of Baker...won't be able to be there in time to interdict the landings... i only have a SNLF unit at Baker

Will this be the decisive battle the japanese were looking for?





More news from NOPAC... the americans have based at attu several cruisers (for sure CA Vincennes) and lots of DDs.
Recently 50 P39s started to bomb Amchitka Island, tasting the fire of my AAs... it seems that he wants to open two fronts in a row (NOPAC and CENTPAC)...hopefully he has divided his CVs into two different groups....



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Afternoon Air attack on Amchitka Island , at 158,52

Weather in hex: Thunderstorms

Raid spotted at 24 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-39D Airacobra x 21

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 3 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed by flak

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x P-39D Airacobra bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 1 x 500 lb GP Bomb






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ORIGINAL: princep01

Dark Thoughts on Bombing at Night:  It happened....it happened a lot all thru the war.  However, I have seen an AaR around that uses a very good house rule on night bombing.  The rule limits night bombing to those nights with 50%+ moonlight until 1943.  That makes a lot of sense to me.  Prior to radar being installable on bomber units, one did need some light to bomb even cities.  So, you might mention this and see if a house rule is adaptable to your game.  I really think that is a logical and realistic rule.  They didn't call full moons, "bomber's moons" for nothing.


We have that HR...but none of us has used night bombing so far in this game...probably we both feel that it's overpowered...however i'll talk to Brad about it
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My Master...yes, i'm trying everything. I used to do that (a leading ASW TF followed up by transport TFs) but with the japs it doesn't work well... Consider that in this mod the jap ASW capabilities have been really nerfed (which is a good thing!)...now even in shallow waters you're lucky if a DD (so with high exp) makes a couple of light hits on a sub and doesn't get sunk in return
Most of my experince is with the Allies but ASW works best with both ships and planes. If you can spot the subs with planes the ships can usually sink them. Forget right now if the planes should be on ASW or nav search, but once the planes know the subs are there the ASF ships are much more effective.
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First, you have done well to develop a mature and professional doctrine on troop rotation to maintain the pressure in China. Tienshui is a key get.

Second, looks like some fun about to go down near Baker. As the Allies, going up against KB and LBA in 1942 is a recipe for IJN victory.
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Thanks John and Crib!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 06, 42

The 6th is a key day.
The enemy arrived. 2 battlewagons bombarded Baker Island, sucking up all the supplies i've delivered in the last month (well were pretty few to be honest...didn't have the time to develop or garrison Baker as i would have liked).
Then the BB retired and the amphib TF arrived. Looks like QBall is using his AKs and APs.
Two regiments and a combat engineers regiment for Baker. A risky choice cause he didn't know what i had there (he never reconned Baker throughout the last months...he kept on reconning Tabiutea...that's where i was waiting for him.... so i could have had there 6,000 men well dug in...instead of the tiny garrison i had).

The Nevada and Meriland retired towards Canton Is... and the passed over one of my Glenn-equipped subs... the I-28 (the hero of the day!) put, in two different attacks, not less than 5 torps into Meryland's belly.... and the battleship went down! Yes!! (confirmed sunk...2 float planes are reported lost on the ground in the intel screen[8D]).

The enemy CVs are 4 hexes south of Baker, along with several more major warships (BBs, CAs etc etc).

My Nells today didn't fly... but, looking at the combat replay, it seems that the AP we sunk yesterday was loaded up with half of a RCT...not a bad prey[:)]

Ok, now the hard decisions...

The KB needs to make a 13 hexes trip (hopefully a 7/6 trip) at flank speed to be in the right position to strike tomorrow. The sys damage is growing higher every day proceeding at max speed and the fuel is running low... but i don't have time to refuel at Tarawa...i'd lose a whole day for that. I'm leaving behind all the ships that are low on fuel (the BB Haruna and some 10 DDs) and moved out of the KB the two CVEs actually embedded (Unyo and Tahyo)...they are too slow and i cannot risk not to be there on time.

Same goes for subs. All of them are proceeding at flank speed from Kwajalein and from the southern seas. It will be a short trip for them... by the time they arrive they will have, more or less, dried up all their tanks...so it will be a "single-shot-mission".


To be honest i don't understand why Baker... it cannot be built (its max is 3/3) to any interesting level and it doesn't pose a threat to my interests in the Gilberts or Marshalls.
Is he intentionally driving here my attention in order to get a shot on my CVs? is he looking for a CV-CV fight?.
By now he must have all his 6 CVs combined togheder... which means 540 enemy carrier planes to face... i know what it means...with the DBB AA modifications and with the reduced torpedo accurancy, a carrier fight in summer 1942 is not a bad option anymore for the allies. But hey, better to fight them now than in 1943 when the Essex CVs arrive!



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Night Naval bombardment of Baker Island at 149,136

Allied Ships
BB Nevada
BB Maryland

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 4
Port hits 5
Port supply hits 2

BB Nevada firing at Baker Island
BB Maryland firing at Baker Island


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Pre-Invasion action off Baker Island (149,136)

13 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
APD Kane
APD Hatfield
APD Talbot
APD Manley
APD Ward

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

APD Kane fired at enemy troops
APD Hatfield fired at enemy troops
APD Talbot fired at enemy troops
APD Manley fired at enemy troops
APD Ward fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 5,000 yards
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 1,000 yards


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Amphibious Assault at Baker Island (149,136)

TF 200 troops unloading over beach at Baker Island, 149,136

Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 5 (0 destroyed, 5 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (0 destroyed, 1 disabled)



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Invasion Support action off Baker Island (149,136)

6 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.

Allied Ships
APD Kane
APD Hatfield
APD Talbot
APD Manley
APD Ward

Japanese ground losses:
48 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

APD Kane fired at enemy troops
APD Hatfield fired at enemy troops
APD Talbot fired at enemy troops
APD Manley fired at enemy troops
APD Ward fired at enemy troops
Defensive Guns fire at approaching troops in landing craft at 2,000 yards



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Sub attack near Canton Island at 152,140

Japanese Ships
SS I-28

Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Duncan

SS I-28 launches 6 torpedoes at BB Maryland
I-28 diving deep ....
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan attacking submerged sub ....
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub


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Sub attack near Canton Island at 152,140

Japanese Ships
SS I-28

Allied Ships
BB Maryland, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Duncan

SS I-28 launches 6 torpedoes at BB Maryland
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
DD Duncan fails to find sub, continues to search...
Escort abandons search for sub






In China we attacked Chikkiang once again... forts dropped to level 1!.... sooner or later i'll get there!



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Ground combat at Chihkiang (78,50)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 42169 troops, 417 guns, 239 vehicles, Assault Value = 1254

Defending force 41868 troops, 168 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1294

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 1

Japanese adjusted assault: 787

Allied adjusted defense: 1258

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 1)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
2097 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 144 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 39 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Guns lost 67 (2 destroyed, 65 disabled)
Vehicles lost 43 (2 destroyed, 41 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
457 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 93 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 11 (1 destroyed, 10 disabled)

Assaulting units:
51st Division
4th Tank Regiment
15th Division
68th Division
2nd Tank Regiment
15th Ind.Medium Field Artillery Regiment
4th Mortar Battalion
11th Army
52nd Ind.Mtn.Gun Battalion
21st Mortar Battalion

Defending units:
9th Prov Chinese Corps
53rd Chinese Corps
79th Chinese/B Corps
46th Chinese Corps
78th Chinese Corps
79th Chinese/C Corps
7th Artillery Regiment


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Ground combat at 82,40 (near Sian) (this is a single corp, south of Tienshui and north west of Sian, that was isolated during the japanese penetration)


Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28065 troops, 162 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 991

Defending force 10195 troops, 38 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 269

Japanese adjusted assault: 392

Allied adjusted defense: 67

Japanese assault odds: 5 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
527 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 50 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled

Allied ground losses:
741 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 91 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 6 (1 destroyed, 5 disabled)

Assaulting units:
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
1st NCPC Infantry Brigade
69th Division
59th Division
2nd NCPC Infantry Brigade

Defending units:
93rd Chinese Corps




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Ground combat at Baker Island (149,136)

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 3259 troops, 36 guns, 26 vehicles, Assault Value = 110

Defending force 581 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 25

Allied adjusted assault: 16 ...gosh, if i only had something more at Baker[:@]

Japanese adjusted defense: 2

Allied assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Allied forces CAPTURE Baker Island !!!

Combat modifiers
Defender: supply(-)
Attacker: shock(+), fatigue(-)

Japanese ground losses:
581 casualties reported
Squads: 36 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 21 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 16 (16 destroyed, 0 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
274 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 23 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled

Assaulting units:
145th Infantry Regiment
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
1st AmphTrac Engineer Battalion

Defending units:
53rd Nav Gd /3




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Nice work with I-28. Baker is a good search/recon base for any activity later in the area. He might have known from sigint that you didn't have much there, and took a shot. But that's what you want, material for territory. A BB plus a few more ships for a marginally useful island.

Now a potential CV battle. We're all on the edge of our seats!

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ORIGINAL: obvert

Nice work with I-28. Baker is a good search/recon base for any activity later in the area. He might have known from sigint that you didn't have much there, and took a shot. But that's what you want, material for territory. A BB plus a few more ships for a marginally useful island.

Now a potential CV battle. We're all on the edge of our seats!



The fact is that, fighting there, i'm at the very edge of my LBA (G3M3s from Makin) and so we will both only rely on CVs for the upcoming battle...which isn't exactly what i was planning to do for my grand strategy.
Also he could now easily move back at flank speed and the CV battle will be avoided. I won't chase him down into his own waters. It's all up to him now...would he engage or would he run back? If i was him i'd run....

I'd love to get some of those AP/AKs... but i don't think he'll stay there.
The only hope i have is that my CVs are still undetected. But he knows i had in the area the Yamato so he may guess that the KB can't be that far away...

Well, we'll see...


For what concerns China, things are really developing well. The fall of Tienshui was very very important for my chinese strategy. Once Chikkiang will fall too, the pressure on his outer perimeter will be really great and i truly think that we will be able to get to the Chungking plains by the end of the year
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 07, 42

Once again i arrived too late. As i feared, QBall ran away like the Devil himself was on his heels! every single ship he had completely disappeared out of my naval search (even the Glenns didn't spot anything)...only the amphib TF was spotted 1 hex north of Canton is, but my Emily was shot down by CV CAP (so the CVs must still be nearby...).

Bradd caught me off guard once again. I tought he was coming for Tabiutea and i would have been in time to engage if that was the real target...while Baker was simply too far away from Ponape to arrive in time.

So, at the end of the 7th, i lost Baker and this is the second outposts i lose without being able to fight...well, i sunk a BB, an AP and probably a CL...but the allies are getting closer and closer to my perimeter...

Wise move by bradd anyway...i would have done the same. A kind of a boom&zoom tactic...it's working so far[:(]

Buying out in these days the 2nd Tank division...will be sent to Singapore and then to Burma along with the 33rd Division


In NOPAC, this time a bombardment run against Amchitka... lost of ships up there... i wonder if another invasion is coming

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Night Naval bombardment of Amchitka Island at 158,52

Allied Ships
CA Vincennes

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

CA Vincennes firing at 63rd Naval Guard Unit



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Aug 8-10 1942

As the enemy fleet vanished, the combined fleet moved north back to Ponape.
Moving my glens-equipped subs to Palmyra and Pago Pago...wanna see where his ships went...

The air bombing against Amichtika goes on. 60 P-39s level bomb everyday my outpost in the Aleutinas.

The allies sent nearly 250 planes against the 55th Division advancing towards Paoshan (western China). Luckly they didn't score a single hit, but this isn't a good sign...means he's growing bolder in this area... while my air forces are bound to defend my bases and cannot be used on LRCAP roles...
Sending more supplies from HI to Burma, along with the 33rd Division.

Ha-45 Engine accelerated up to 12/42! Very good!!!


Ground combat at 76,53 (near Kweilin)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 49993 troops, 448 guns, 92 vehicles, Assault Value = 1427

Defending force 21544 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 408

Japanese adjusted assault: 1112

Allied adjusted defense: 424

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
1783 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 160 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 22 disabled

Allied ground losses:
6270 casualties reported
Squads: 238 destroyed, 33 disabled
Non Combat: 255 destroyed, 17 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 4 disabled
Guns lost 16 (3 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Units retreated 4

Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Assaulting units:
3rd Division
40th Division
22nd Division
60th Division
23rd Army
12th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
20th Medium Field Artillery Regiment

Defending units:
4th Chinese Corps
18th Chinese Corps
16th Group Army
2nd Chinese Base Force

In China we re-opened the RR from Kweiling to Changsha.... more enemy squads in the bag!

Something strange happened at Java.... Brad sent a sub-commando against Tjepoe (west of Sosarbaja)... the base is undefended and the commando immediately conquered it... there are oil wells there and some refineries [:o].... my bad i didn't consider this option[:@].... now i'll have to get those bastards, hopefully without destroying the wells in the process[8|]

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 12, 42

So the sub commando vanished with the same fast pace as they arrived.
Tomorrow my units will retake control of the oil wells,...hopefully those bastards didn't damage them too much[:@]...Really a smart move by Brad

It seems that the Aleutinas are again getting QBall's full attention. For the first time in the war the B17s showed up en masse. From Addak arrived several of these monsters, heavily escorted by P-39s... Amichtikia ISland is doomed and so are those units garrisoning it...too bad. Lost too many good units in the Aleutinas...for no gain at all. I should have evacuated all those units when i still had time to do so...now he's too strong up there to try to save them...

Nothing else has happened.

Decided to assemble the 1st Tank Division and use it in China instead of Sumatra. I'll move to Sumatra a chinese division recently bought out. The tanks can make a lot of difference against the chinese...not so against the western armies... so why not?!




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Morning Air attack on Amchitka Island , at 158,52

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 38 NM, estimated altitude 18,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 31
P-39D Airacobra x 24
P-40E Warhawk x 25

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 15


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Morning Air attack on Amchitka Island , at 158,52

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 37 NM, estimated altitude 17,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 6
P-39D Airacobra x 23

No Allied losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 9







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If you don't want to send in fast transports to pick them up and have Emilys free you might evac at least partials of the troops at Amchitka to rebuild them quicker. I think you can make it from Paramushiro Jima.
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ORIGINAL: obvert

If you don't want to send in fast transports to pick them up and have Emilys free you might evac at least partials of the troops at Amchitka to rebuild them quicker. I think you can make it from Paramushiro Jima.


Nice Idea obert! The Emilies can do it! I will try to find a unit (maybe i'll rotate it in its naval search role with some G3M3s) and will send it to Paramushiro ASAP


13 Aug 1942

A bad day for my ASW. We lost a TK full of fuel north of Brunei and another xAK full of troops at Wake (no matter how much we try, our DCs really suck!!!)

KB reached Truk. Will refuel and repair some sys damage accumulated during the useless rush towards Baker.

At Baker enemy is loading/unloading...and i can't do anything to stop it [:@]

For Wake my defences will now be the following:

Wake CD gun detachment
1 SNLF unit (48 AVs)
1 (strong) IJA Battaillon (nearly 88 AVs)
1 Artillery unit (45mm anti tank guns)
1 Tank company (with 12 brand new medium tanks)
1 Construction Bn

All for 5879 men (stacking limit is 6,000)

Shouldn't be an easy target...

Same goes for Marcus (more infantry because there's no static CD unit there)

Not bad i'd say



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I don't think you should beat up on yourself over the troops trapped in the Aleutians. They are diverting him from attacking in other areas, and if you had sent major forces to guard the Aleutians he would have just switched his offensive somewhere else. It is the essence of the Japanese problem that they cannot be strong everywhere and the Allies will eventually recon/probe and discover weak spots.

I believe you said you were going to build up the Kuriles early on? If that has been done and he cannot easily advance there, the Aleutians are just another area soaking up his troop strength, just as they did yours. Your offensive there did serve a purpose. Retrieve what fragments you can and concentrate on building the Kuriles more. Just don't plan to have an outpost at Petropavlovsk![:-]
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ORIGINAL: BBfanboy

I don't think you should beat up on yourself over the troops trapped in the Aleutians. They are diverting him from attacking in other areas, and if you had sent major forces to guard the Aleutians he would have just switched his offensive somewhere else. It is the essence of the Japanese problem that they cannot be strong everywhere and the Allies will eventually recon/probe and discover weak spots.

I believe you said you were going to build up the Kuriles early on? If that has been done and he cannot easily advance there, the Aleutians are just another area soaking up his troop strength, just as they did yours. Your offensive there did serve a purpose. Retrieve what fragments you can and concentrate on building the Kuriles more. Just don't plan to have an outpost at Petropavlovsk![:-]


Thanks BB,

it's always hard to accept the fact that you cannot defend well everywhere and that you have to leave your brave men to die in isolated outposts without the chance of fighting for their lifes... but you're right: better The Aleutinas and Baker than somewhere else!

Yes, i have based already the equivalent of 2 divisions in the Kuriles, with 6 AA units, several base forces and 1 Air HQ. Would be crazy for him to get here now...and i'm willing to reinforce them even more during the next 6 months...wanna have my backdoor well shut!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR Aug 13-14, 42

Two days of ASW headhaches....despite all my efforts (with air and naval ASW), his subs keep on hitting my ships... gotta say that in this mod the american subs will be able to get historical results...even with the nerfed Mk14 torpedoes, i'm losing more than 1 ship per day[:(]

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Sub attack near Jesselton at 66,83

Japanese Ships
TK Amakusa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage
PB Chosa Maru
TK Oyashima Maru
TK Azuchisan Maru
TK Hirota Maru
PB Sinko Maru
PB Ikuta Maru

Allied Ships
SS Salmon


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Sub attack near Wake Island at 136,98

Japanese Ships
xAKL Katsura Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PB Chokai Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-23

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled



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Sub attack near Yap at 95,97

Japanese Ships
PB Hinode Maru #20, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
SC Ch 15
SC Ch 14
TK Shoyo Maru
TK Nikkoku Maru
TK Nichiei Maru
TK Kanze Maru
PB Tamaura Maru
PB Takunan Maru #8

Allied Ships
SS Haddock


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Sub attack near Tarawa at 136,128

Japanese Ships
xAK Genoa Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PB Myoken Maru

Allied Ships
SS S-32




In Burma, he sent once again several bombers, heavily escorted, to attack my 15th Army advancing towards Paoshan (western China)...


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Morning Air attack on 55th Division, at 64,45 , near Paoshan

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
P-43A-1 Lancer x 23
Blenheim I x 12
Blenheim IV x 14
B-26B Marauder x 3

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

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Morning Air attack on 7th Ind.Tank Brigade, at 64,45 , near Paoshan

Weather in hex: Moderate rain

Raid spotted at 18 NM, estimated altitude 16,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 15
B-26B Marauder x 14
P-38E Lightning x 25




In NOPAC, every day 50 B17s attack Amichtika Is, escorted by more than 100 fighters...


The good news of the day comes from CENTPAC... shippings near Baker Is...without any air cover... and my crack G3M3s arrive at 1000 ft (wanted to avoid the radars)...3 torps on an loaded xAP and she goes down... I think it's the very same RCT that got half destroyed when we sunk (always the same group of Nells) the AP that was bringing it to Baker during the invasion. Very well!

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Morning Air attack on TF, near Baker Island at 149,136

Weather in hex: Light cloud

Raid detected at 28 NM, estimated altitude 5,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes

Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
APD Talbot
xAP President Buchanan, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP President Tyler

Allied ground losses:
1714 casualties reported
Squads: 86 destroyed, 17 disabled
Non Combat: 52 destroyed, 31 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 2 disabled
Guns lost 35 (35 destroyed, 0 disabled)




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Ground combat at 82,40 (near Sian)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 27409 troops, 162 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 821

Defending force 5435 troops, 8 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Japanese adjusted assault: 660

Allied adjusted defense: 4

Japanese assault odds: 165 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), leaders(+), disruption(-), fatigue(-)
supply(-)
Attacker:

Allied ground losses:
3153 casualties reported
Squads: 76 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 555 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 9 (9 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
69th Division
9th Ind.Mixed Brigade
59th Division

Defending units:
93rd Chinese Corps


We finally get rid of that damned 93rd Corp...now we can advance again!


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