Matrix\Slitherine..could you please....

[wodin]

Looks like we can all agree...boardgame to PC is an untapped market...

[Lützow]

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

There are many many good board games out there and we're always looking for opportunities but most developers want to make their own game and not convert someone else's. This is why board game conversions are are rare but it is definitely something we're looking in to more as the board game and video game worlds come closer together.

Most devs didn't realize the opportunity of targeting new customers via AppStores. Tablets are the new board and make a perfect platform for every kind of turnbased strategy and boardgame-style titles. Just imagine how many copies a title like War between the States could sell there in comparison to the rather narrow audience of PC wargamers.

btw. DVG just submitted Phantom Leader to Apple Store.

[wodin]

Yeah I wnat them on PC aswell thankyou very much. Tablets are a toy for people with money..I haven't I can only afford a PC. SO please PC conversions for the PC and tablets..Make them on unity and they are cross platform compatible.

Another major issue with tablets is screen size for monster wargames with big maps..games like the leader series are fine on a small screen...Streets of Stalingrad or many of the games I mentioned not so good, zooming out on them to see the whole situation you'd need super eyesight. Even my 19inch isn't that good for wargaming really and I have todo alot of scrolling..

[Lützow]

Screensize of a 10" Tablet isn't much of an issue if maps are scroll- and zoomable. User experience would be better as with the original WitP and it's fixed resolution of 1024x768.

[Rtwfreak]

ORIGINAL: wodin

Yeah I wnat them on PC aswell thankyou very much. Tablets are a toy for people with money..I haven't I can only afford a PC. SO please PC conversions for the PC and tablets..Make them on unity and they are cross platform compatible.

Another major issue with tablets is screen size for monster wargames with big maps..games like the leader series are fine on a small screen...Streets of Stalingrad or many of the games I mentioned not so good, zooming out on them to see the whole situation you'd need super eyesight. Even my 19inch isn't that good for wargaming really and I have todo alot of scrolling..

But can't you plug in a big screen monitor (usb) into a tablet like a laptop or netbook? So you could feasably play on a large screen using a tablet?

[wodin]

yeah you could..but I only have one TV plus isn't that taking away from the bonus of being on a Tablet anyway and thats portability? May aswell have it on the PC and then the TV is still available to other members of the household.

Still I'd like them to be released on both formats. The IPad seems to be doing well in the respect but the PC is being left out.

[Rtwfreak]

From what I read in the BARRON magazine the PC is on the way out though as a "normal" consumer means of computer type usage. Sales figures over the last couple of years have shown a drastic drop in PC sales vs the Tablet/IPads. Developers will go where the money is and thus PC gaming sales will be on the decline as well toward Tablets/Pads and Phones. Even Microsoft to keep up with where the market is heading came out with Windows 8 for it pretty quickly after Win7 in fact. The PC will become like an old car, some people will still drive them but most people will move up to the newer versions with more gadgets and accessories. I'm actually looking forward to it when all I'll need is a 12" square thinline like that new laptop I've been seeing on tv commercials that transforms from a regular laptop type PC to a Tablet....this is the future and more than probably the future of gaming.

[wodin]

ORIGINAL: Rtwfreak

From what I read in the BARRON magazine the PC is on the way out though as a "normal" consumer means of computer type usage. Sales figures over the last couple of years have shown a drastic drop in PC sales vs the Tablet/IPads. Developers will go where the money is and thus PC gaming sales will be on the decline as well toward Tablets/Pads and Phones. Even Microsoft to keep up with where the market is heading came out with Windows 8 for it pretty quickly after Win7 in fact. The PC will become like an old car, some people will still drive them but most people will move up to the newer versions with more gadgets and accessories. I'm actually looking forward to it when all I'll need is a 12" square thinline like that new laptop I've been seeing on tv commercials that transforms from a regular laptop type PC to a Tablet....this is the future and more than probably the future of gaming.

yet many developers are turning back to the PC..also the indie scene is blooming. Win 8 is a bad sign though. I was worried about tablets etc but alot of developers are saying the PC is where they really want to be, fed up with restrictive consoles tech and terms and conditions. Granted when the next gen comes out it will start all over again until three or four years down the line when they find that tech restricting them again.

I very much doubt people will want to play an FPS even on a tablet..there is always a balancing act between the different gaming products.

Also with tablets your taking away a few years worth of cpu power and graphic power..so thats a massive step backwards..also no I really don't want to be playing game son a 10 inch screen..if people wanted to do that we'd still be playing game son the old 15 inch screen..but no we want bigger and bigger screens. You really want to play Total war on a 10 inch screen? Also your total war wouldn't look anywhere near as good as it does now..so you'd have a massive downgrade in looks and performance..

The PC will always be around..even from a business standpoint. Business very rarely update their tech and I doubt very much all offices will be typing away on a 10 inch tablet.

I'm hoping we can all have our preferred way of gaming. Mine is the PC, it has the power and everything I want to be honest. Portability isn't an issue. Now I agree that tablets will take away the need for netbooks and maybe even laptops but never from the desktop. Besides it would hurt the graphic and hardware manufacturers to much.

I reckon Steam would end up building a new gaming machine based on the PC open platform and with upgradeable tech...they are already wanting to improve Linux as they see Win 8 being a threat to long term gaming development.

What your seeing in the adverts is the new Microsoft surface..

[Lützow]

Win 8 is the new Vista. Microsoft delivers too less and too late, like IBM did with OS/2 almost 20 years ago. Nobody needs or wants another AppStore. Myself, I'm currently considering a MacBook Pro as my next machine and might come back once MS releases a decent Windows again.

Some time ago the majority couldn't image to read on a Kindle, nowadays Amazon sells more e-books than printed issues already and in a few years we barely will see 'real' books anymore. Same will apply to Tablets and games.

Having said that, I don't believe in the demise of PC's. Devices like the iPad are nice for consuming content but insufficient for creating it.

[IainMcNeil]

I got my copy of Win 8 last week and spent most of the week trying to disable everything related to Win 8 which effectively makes it Win 7. I think its going to be a huge flop on desktop devices. Might be nice for tablets but I hated it with a mouse and keyboard.

[wodin]

Well that says it all....

[Pipewrench]

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

I got my copy of Win 8 last week and spent most of the week trying to disable everything related to Win 8 which effectively makes it Win 7. I think its going to be a huge flop on desktop devices. Might be nice for tablets but I hated it with a mouse and keyboard.

Fascinating take but I respectfully disagree.

So a platform that is able to have true multiple monitor touch pad support does not peak your interest? Think about the burst of new applications that now can be designed where GUI could be directed to one monitor while a separate GUI could be directed also to a touch pad. This GUI could take the place of the keyboard and create graphically a true user input tailored to what is happening on the other monitor. That is why Microsoft named it 'surface'. Surface pro is going to make things very interesting and should create great gaming experiences because it supports all existing PC languages.

Rant off[;)][:)]

[wodin]

Yeah and the new surface tablet thingy is getting less than stellar reviews.

Win8 is the start of it becoming a closed system like Apple..this will have a massive knock on effect.

So no as a desktop OS it's rubbish..and a horrible pointer to the way things are going to go.

Also how many of us have touch screen screens? None..would I like it...no not really.

Listen when many people in the gaming industry esp developers have an issue with Win 8 then sit up and take notice.

As a developer said recently..think it was Notch..WIn 7 shows Microsoft finally got their act togtehr in making a great OS that was developer friendly..to then throw it all away with Win 8 to try and keep up with the mobiles..very silly..a desktop isn't a mobile platform and though touch screen is fancy it isn't worth the restrictions that come with it.

Microsoft can stick Win 8 up it's backside. I hope to god Win 7 is around for along time to come and either Microsoft realise and make a separate desktop OS to their mobile OS or someone else comes up with another true open platform.

[rickier65]

I bought a new laptop earlier this summer, so I had an option to buy Windows 8 Pro upgrade for $14.99 when it became available.

I downloded it couple of days ago and put it on a DVD. I have seeraql things on my plate right now, so I haven't ran it yet. I may hold off upgrading my laptop for a little while until I have more time.

Rick

[wodin]

Really can't see the need for Win 8 when Win 7 is near enough perfect as it is..

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

I got my copy of Win 8 last week and spent most of the week trying to disable everything related to Win 8 which effectively makes it Win 7. I think its going to be a huge flop on desktop devices. Might be nice for tablets but I hated it with a mouse and keyboard.

Spot on Iain. I have been playing around with Win 8 for nearly a year, and most of the time I spent testing it, I was trying to make it like Windows 7.

[IainMcNeil]

I'm sure it has it's uses but those are not on standard desktop PC.

[radic202]

ORIGINAL: wodin

Really can't see the need for Win 8 when Win 7 is near enough perfect as it is..

Totally and I mean Totally Agree! Why install something when my Win7 64 bit is working perfectly?

[Rtwfreak]

And aren't most all newly released PC's coming or going to come with WIN 8 now? From how it sounds from reading here it sounds like the Death nail derge to the PC. People will hate it and swear never to buy another PC again. Thus the rise of Pads and Phones and Tablets!

[wodin]

Well I'd buy a new PC then install Win 7 and take off Win8. Though I very rarely buy a whole new PC and usually upgrade in stages.

Also alot of people will be quite happy with Win 8, but the gaming community on the whole wont and don't like the direction it's pointing in, which is a closed platform. Hence Steam trying to get Linux into some kind of user friendly order.

Edit to say my very important OP about boardgame conversions has now gone off on a tangent about that bl#'dy Win8!!!