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RE: When?

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Steve, get well. Nothing sucks more than being sick, especially when one ailment is conquered only to have another impose itself from out of the blue. Hawaiian beaches are restorative, spend more time on one with a good book.

Re: MWiF... I don't suppose there's a Plan B?
Hi Crussdaddy

Still lurking huh! There is no place to sit on the beach too many tourists and military people on the beaches. I know I was stationed there for a year.

There will always be plan "A" [&o] as long as Steve is able to get past his health problems.

Good to see you Crussdaddy and glad to see you are on calming medication now, please stay on it [:D]

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Steve, get well. Nothing sucks more than being sick, especially when one ailment is conquered only to have another impose itself from out of the blue. Hawaiian beaches are restorative, spend more time on one with a good book.

Re: MWiF... I don't suppose there's a Plan B?
Hi Crussdaddy

Still lurking huh! There is no place to sit on the beach too many tourists and military people on the beaches. I know I was stationed there for a year.

There will always be plan "A" [&o] as long as Steve is able to get past his health problems.

Good to see you Crussdaddy and glad to see you are on calming medication now, please stay on it [:D]

Bo
Gotta ask.... Do you both use the same meds? [:D]
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RE: When?

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At the risk of being pilloried by other members of this forum, I am actually going to support something Crussdaddy posted.

Crussdaddy asked about a plan B. Steve has given a heroic effort in getting this project this far, regardless of health issues. When adding these issues to the mix, this may be too much for any one man.

And this is to my point. From my persective, I see little to no support from Matrix staff towards Steve. It looks like this is a solo project, and Matrix could not give a *bleep* about when it is done. This is more than one person should be asked to endure. I think Matrix needs to step up, regardless of Steve's contract details, and do the right thing and get someone to help Steve finish what we all want to see finished. I have not, nor will I purchase ANY Matrix product until I see some real tangible assistance rendered to Steve.

I so hope I am wrong, but it seems like Matrix is hanging Steve out to dry with no kind support. But when you see no other members of the Matrix staff posting updates, or keeping the community in the loop, this conclusion is easy to come by.

Plan 'B' should now be plan 'A'...get Steve the help he needs to finish this and have him focus 100% on his health.

Best wishes Steve, and speedy recovery.

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you are not alone.. I think many have though about plan B ...

but from Steve point of view, I know that he always hope that, this is the last health issue and he will back to work full time soon ..

but it have really been a unlucky year.

but I see this game finished in 6 month. (with Steve at full speed). so just let us hope this is the last health issue.

I can more or less guaranty that the game would have been released by now. if we have had a better year
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RE: When?

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At the risk of being pilloried by other members of this forum, I am actually going to support something Crussdaddy posted.

Crussdaddy asked about a plan B. Steve has given a heroic effort in getting this project this far, regardless of health issues. When adding these issues to the mix, this may be too much for any one man.

And this is to my point. From my persective, I see little to no support from Matrix staff towards Steve. It looks like this is a solo project, and Matrix could not give a *bleep* about when it is done. This is more than one person should be asked to endure. I think Matrix needs to step up, regardless of Steve's contract details, and do the right thing and get someone to help Steve finish what we all want to see finished. I have not, nor will I purchase ANY Matrix product until I see some real tangible assistance rendered to Steve.

I so hope I am wrong, but it seems like Matrix is hanging Steve out to dry with no kind support. But when you see no other members of the Matrix staff posting updates, or keeping the community in the loop, this conclusion is easy to come by.

Plan 'B' should now be plan 'A'...get Steve the help he needs to finish this and have him focus 100% on his health.

Best wishes Steve, and speedy recovery.

Patton_71
There's no risk of being pilloried by me Patton_71. I respect every ones opinion [:)] I would like to think that after six years we have to learn to respect each others opinion. With that said what are you nuts bringing up no help from Matrix [:D] I am shocked just shocked that anyone here would think that, shocked, horrified, in fact I will bet that in the next couple of days someone from high up in the Matrix chain of command will refute that comment by you. [:-]

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Steve, get well. Nothing sucks more than being sick, especially when one ailment is conquered only to have another impose itself from out of the blue. Hawaiian beaches are restorative, spend more time on one with a good book.

Re: MWiF... I don't suppose there's a Plan B?
Hi Crussdaddy

Still lurking huh! There is no place to sit on the beach too many tourists and military people on the beaches. I know I was stationed there for a year.

There will always be plan "A" [&o] as long as Steve is able to get past his health problems.

Good to see you Crussdaddy and glad to see you are on calming medication now, please stay on it [:D]

Bo
Gotta ask.... Do you both use the same meds? [:D]

Not nice abj not nice [:@] Some posters here think that I have turned over a new leaf 2 years ago but the truth of the matter is abj that my wife substituted my 81% aspirins with a new aspirin called Lorazepam [:D] I think its aspirin [&:] oh well!

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RE: When?

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you are not alone.. I think many have though about plan B ...

but from Steve point of view, I know that he always hope that, this is the last health issue and he will back to work full time soon ..

but it have really been a unlucky year.

but I see this game finished in 6 month. (with Steve at full speed). so just let us hope this is the last health issue.

I can more or less guaranty that the game would have been released by now. if we have had a better year
Amen michael [&o]

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Hi Crussdaddy

Still lurking huh! There is no place to sit on the beach too many tourists and military people on the beaches. I know I was stationed there for a year.

There will always be plan "A" [&o] as long as Steve is able to get past his health problems.

Good to see you Crussdaddy and glad to see you are on calming medication now, please stay on it [:D]

Bo
Gotta ask.... Do you both use the same meds? [:D]

Not nice abj not nice [:@] Some posters here think that I have turned over a new leaf 2 years ago but the truth of the matter is abj that my wife substituted my 81% aspirins with a new aspirin called Lorazepam [:D] I think its aspirin [&:] oh well!

Bo
Hey Bo, I am glad you have developed a pretty good sense of humor and understood the joke. I remember a time when it would have been different. My congrats on a new leaf.
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Gotta ask.... Do you both use the same meds? [:D]

Not nice abj not nice [:@] Some posters here think that I have turned over a new leaf 2 years ago but the truth of the matter is abj that my wife substituted my 81% aspirins with a new aspirin called Lorazepam [:D] I think its aspirin [&:] oh well!

Bo
Hey Bo, I am glad you have developed a pretty good sense of humor and understood the joke. I remember a time when it would have been different. My congrats on a new leaf.
A new leaf or Lorazepam?

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Any word how things went for Steve? That's whats important here.

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Perspective Department: My son was about a year, a year and a half, when Harry announced CWIF, IIRC. He's a senior in high school now.

Yes and CWiF was released a long time ago. Maybe not the greatest software but it did come out. If you want it ADG sells it at their website for 20$.
http://www.a-d-g.com.au//cgi/product_details?pr_id=110

We distinguish CWiF from MWiF as they are 2 different computer games although MWiF is based on the original code.


Amazing that all this started in 1995!! [X(] 17 years of development and reworking - and the game is still not finished. This has to be the longest gaming project in history.
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Back in the hospital!

More marvels of modern medicine!

Endoscopic-retrograde-coangio-pancreoscopy.

That is what they say today, that Dr. Lim will do to me.

If everything goes alright, my bile duct will again flow free.

Endoscopic-retrograde-coangio-pancreoscopy.

On October 31, I had the cataract removed in my left eye. That all went well according to the surgeon in my follow up visit the nex day. But 2 days later I had stomach pains (unrelated) and made a visit to the Emergency Room. After alot of tests the doctors concluded my gall bladder is kaput.

The little ditty above is the procedure they will use to go through my mouth down the throat into my small intestine and back up into the bile duct where they expect to find a gall stone that they will remove. If that goes well then a second surgical procedure will happen later this afternoon to remove the gall bladder and I should, theoretically be discharged tomorrow and able to work a couple days after that.

This makes 5 surgeries in 15 months after 60 years of none. I blame my parents for not getting the extended warranty.

I'll give a full monthly report when I'm able to type myself rather than dictate to my loving wife.


As Winston Churchill used to say, 'keep buggering on' and all the best with your medical treatment. You will be back stronger and fitter than ever.
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After 17 years I've lost the hope to see and play this game...
When I began to wait this version I was single now I'm married with 2 sons in the high schools...
I think that a simpler but playable version should be better than nothing...
Matrix Games hasn't trusted in this project... it's clear now...

If I want to play WIF I must take off from the cellar the old original boardgame... the problem will be find one opponent...

I hope that Shannon V. OKeets should be home and he resolved his wealth problems too.
I played WIF since the first edition and now finally play the computer game !!!
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Any word how things went for Steve? That's whats important here.

mo reb
I agree Missouri about Steve but we are just trying to keep our sanity here after nine years of frustration. [:(] Remember the date October 31st 2003? And as a beta tester with nothing to do in the last few months it gets more frustrating. I think abj and I were just having some fun which is a lot better than it was 2 years ago right abj? A comment above about a little help from Matrix might be a good thing to bring this game to market. But I will not hold my breath on that one [;)]

Hopefully when Steve gets the supply straightened out we can get cracking again.

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After 17 years I've lost the hope to see and play this game...
When I began to wait this version I was single now I'm married with 2 sons in the high schools...
I think that a simpler but playable version should be better than nothing...
Matrix Games hasn't trusted in this project... it's clear now...

If I want to play WIF I must take off from the cellar the old original boardgame... the problem will be find one opponent...

I hope that Shannon V. OKeets should be home and he resolved his wealth problems too.
Wow Maucat you do not post much [2 posts] but when you say something you lower the boom [&o] Two sons in high school huh! Try 2 grandsons in high school [;)] Near Philadelphia we have a nursing home called Fair Acres I am just hoping they have internet
when I get there. Probably not [:@]

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Think about this.

A software publisher is similiar to a book publisher. An author writes the book or software while the publisher edits and sells the product. Regardless of what we want a company to do, they are limited by the contractual obligations written into the contracts. Just because you know an author wants to write a book doesn't mean it's coming out when he says it will regradless of our desires. So unless the publisher has a timeframe in the contract it's pointless to debate the subject. Siunce we do not know what is in Steve's contract it is even more pointless to discuss it.

Personally we should be thankful we are even aware the game is being developed. Why, because we have put a massive amount of effort into letting Steve know what we liked and disliked and he responded. Last but not least, I do not know of any programmer who would take this project on. Especially, since rulebooks of monster games are notoriously impossible to code into reality. It is much easier to code a game that has only the rules the developer knows will work. Steve has overcome more impossible programming tasks than I care to even think about. Laymen who do not understand will both congradulate and complain about this game ad infinitum. As for me, I send my thanks and best wishes to Steve who never complains, never gripes, and always has a positive outlook. If only I could exhibit those traits more consistently I too could be a better person.

Thank You Steve!
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Exactly !
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Think about this.

A software publisher is similiar to a book publisher. An author writes the book or software while the publisher edits and sells the product. Regardless of what we want a company to do, they are limited by the contractual obligations written into the contracts. Just because you know an author wants to write a book doesn't mean it's coming out when he says it will regradless of our desires. So unless the publisher has a timeframe in the contract it's pointless to debate the subject. Siunce we do not know what is in Steve's contract it is even more pointless to discuss it.

Personally we should be thankful we are even aware the game is being developed. Why, because we have put a massive amount of effort into letting Steve know what we liked and disliked and he responded. Last but not least, I do not know of any programmer who would take this project on. Especially, since rulebooks of monster games are notoriously impossible to code into reality. It is much easier to code a game that has only the rules the developer knows will work. Steve has overcome more impossible programming tasks than I care to even think about. Laymen who do not understand will both congradulate and complain about this game ad infinitum. As for me, I send my thanks and best wishes to Steve who never complains, never gripes, and always has a positive outlook. If only I could exhibit those traits more consistently I too could be a better person.

Thank You Steve!
You are getting on my nerves again abj [:-] You are always right, or you do explain things correctly whichever [;)] but cant you let me be in my little dream world for at least a couple of days hoping Matrix would help out, keep this up and I am going back to my 81mg aspirin and then you will be sorry[:D]

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Short health update.

They ran an MRI just before midnight on Sunday and it showed there were no gallstones blocking my bile duct. Their conclusion was that my gall bladder was so full of stones that it was swollen to the point that was pressing against the bile duct, restricting flow. The result of this analysis was that the ERCP was unnecessary, so it was deleted from the surgery schedule.

However, on Tuesday they removed my gallbladder, going in through my belly button (now that hadn't seen any use in a long time). They made 3 other small incisions for shoving other instruments into my stomach, so they could see what they were doing. But the belly button was the opening where they removed the mass of the gallbladder. While this surgery was suppose to take 1 hour, in practice it took 4. The technical description given by the surgeon afterwards was "that was a nasty gallbladder".

I woke up in Recovery just as the election results were coming in so in my dazed state I was hearing:
141 over 89 (no that isn't my blood pressure, that's for the woman over there)
131 over 76 (now that was said by by the nurse standing next to me, so that is my blood pressure)
with 53% reporting in Caiugha Country, Obama has 55% of the vote (but who won Ohio?)
heart rate 68
.
.
.

It took me a while before I was able to figure out where all the voices were coming from and what everything meant.

I went home Wednesday morning, which was very good. They only let you escape if they are pretty sure you won't be coming back the same or next day. On the downside, I have a tube coming out of my gut that drains into a little bulb (about the size of a hand grenade). We drain that once or twice a day. I see the surgeon again on Monday and the tube will be removed then. There are no followup visits planned, so this is a lot less intensive that the other operations I have undergone.

---

60 years with no hospital visits and then 5 major operations within 15 months. Bad joss I guess.

I tried a simple Sudoku this morning and messed it up.[:@] Usually I have no trouble solving even the hardest of those puzzles. Clearly I shouldn't even look at the code until my mental state improves. Oh, and I am off the pain meds already. No need to confuse myself more than I already am.
Steve

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Welcome back Steve!!  Hang in there.  Head should clear up by Monday.  Enjoy your weekend off.  Take in some sites!  Some clean air! 
 
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