Patch 07 - Unofficial Public Beta - 1126b updated 17 Sept 2016

[viberpol]

ORIGINAL: michaelm

ORIGINAL: viberpol
Well, I wonder what made it to be produced in such big quantities? [&:]
if it has never been "Active"... never used from the pool etc.

(Please notice the numbers in columns, there maybe some in between changes but still the number from "used from pool" should at least say it had been used)...
Maybe it's just a strange Tracker's glitch?
Or maybe it's a "metaphore" of radar used by ships (after the refits)? (A pure quess...).
Nothing to kill the game but an interesting issue.

The only reason I can think of for them to be continually produced is that they has a 'build rate' from the editor, in which case I don't think that it would use any resources to make them.
If you have the turn from when they exploded (game turn or replay), I can try to verify what was happening.

Naah... don't waste your time and/or energy on that.

Thank you very much for clarification of two issues:
[1] I didn't even know that if the device has "build rate" it does not consume resources. Always thought that all devices in an LCU consume resources to be build and the "rate" is only a limit for a month production.
[2] The unnecesary devices are only scrapped/reduced if there's an "end date" in the database. Otherwise the production of dated devices continues and it's a waste of resources...

Thanks a lot... [&o]

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: viberpol

The new beta handles very nicely reusing/scrapping the unused/unnecesary devices.

When was this added? This is great, but somehow I missed it in the version notes ...

[michaelm75au]

Last official patch (r9)
New
40. After 6 months, an expired pooled device (squad or engineer type) will slowly convert to the upgraded version; if Japan, obsolete devices will revert to the raw materials.

[PaxMondo]

Huh.  Somehow I never interpreted "raw materials" to be ARM or VEH points.  BUT I am VERY happy that they do.  I need to do some re-calcs now on my mod.  This is REALLY great news.  THANKS!!!!

[viberpol]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo
Huh.  Somehow I never interpreted "raw materials" to be ARM or VEH points.  BUT I am VERY happy that they do.  I need to do some re-calcs now on my mod.  This is REALLY great news.  THANKS!!!!

Pax, just remember adding the "end date" to the device in the editor.
Otherwise they will not be scrapped... The ID 777, Type 94 tankette is an example.
If it's produced, the resources cannot be put back in the pool if not needed.
BTW: maybe it should be possible, but I understand it's difficult and the check against number of "active" devices (or in reinforcement LCUs) could be kind of cumbersome...

ORIGINAL: michaelm
The only reason I can think of for them to be continually produced is that they has a 'build rate' from the editor, in which case I don't think that it would use any resources to make them.
If you have the turn from when they exploded (game turn or replay), I can try to verify what was happening.

A second thought...
Michael, are you absolutely, positively sure that if there's a "build rate" devices won't consume resources (veh/arm/HI points) to be produced?
Or maybe the distinction is based on "Type"?

Why asking? Because of (naval) support dev. ID 252, 255 etc.
They do have build rate of 1200, and I believe they consume resources when produced (I remember old case when reported suspicious increase in support in the pool that ate big chunk of my armament points).
The arm/veh points consumption is based on the load value & you rather meant devices with no "load"? [but there still are mines that do have the "load" value... [&:])

So... maybe there's is still a way to convert all unnecesary devices back into "raw materials" because I believe in '44 or '45 all Japanese players would happily welcome scrapping old devices (such as never used never needed 740 radars or about a thousand sound detectors ID 1473, 1470, 1470) or tankettes to get the steel back... [;)]
It's kind of logical in times of resources crisis... [;)]

[michaelm75au]

If there is a build rate defined, that generates the items. Same thing if production is off, the build rate generates them.

The special devices (250-255) use the build rate except for Japanese IF production is OFF. Else, you are correct in that it uses 'resources' for the Japan only.

I was referring to the other 99.75% of devices.[:D]

Other problem with scrapping unwanted devices is it is a bit hard to tell sometimes if a device is really gone, or just hiding in some TOE upgrade or some other device upgrade.

[Kull]

For those who spend a lot of time reviewing experience gains among their pilots, the color coding is a godsend (green=today, orange=this month). Now that I'm finally playing as Japan, I seem to be paying attention to EVERYTHING, and it occurred to me that given the importance of experience to ASW ships, it would be REALLY helpful if the same color coding could be applied to the Night/Day "Crew Experience" ratings. Not a huge deal in the big scheme of things, obviously, but if the coding was similar and not too much extra effort, it would be nice to extend the same visual indicator to this area.

[JocMeister]

What happened with the double AS support in level 8 and 9 AFs? Did that get removed? Couldn´t find anything about it being removed though. But not getting double in "h" version.

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

What happened with the double AS support in level 8 and 9 AFs? Did that get removed? Couldn´t find anything about it being removed though. But not getting double in "h" version.

Probably bonus is still active. I think something is broken in display of AV numbers.

It can be related with that change:
02/11/12: 1119g - Discrepancy in base AV on some lists.
(By fixing that something was broken in different place probably)

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: koniu

Probably bonus is still active. I think something is broken in display of AV numbers.

It can be related with that change:
02/11/12: 1119g - Discrepancy in base AV on some lists.
(By fixing that something was broken in different place probably)

You might be right. Hard to tell though. I looked at the plane repair time numbers and they look "okeyish". I guess the only wait to really check it to see if the BFs/HQs start getting fatigued?

[1EyedJacks]

I'm having difficulties loading mines on my Japanese subs. The chart shows port 7 and above as a 'Y' for access.

Subs are at Hiroshima which is a size 9 port

patch is 1.7.11.19e

Subs are I-121 thru 124.

I've got 646 Naval support @ the base.

Am I doing something brain-damaged or is there a glitch in loading mines?

Thanks for any feedback,

Mike


Regarding if I have type 88 Mines (good question Quixote - I should have showed this earlier):

[Quixote]

Check to see if you have any of that type mine available to load. They're in pretty short supply most of the time.

[LoBaron]

ORIGINAL: Kull

For those who spend a lot of time reviewing experience gains among their pilots, the color coding is a godsend (green=today, orange=this month). Now that I'm finally playing as Japan, I seem to be paying attention to EVERYTHING, and it occurred to me that given the importance of experience to ASW ships, it would be REALLY helpful if the same color coding could be applied to the Night/Day "Crew Experience" ratings. Not a huge deal in the big scheme of things, obviously, but if the coding was similar and not too much extra effort, it would be nice to extend the same visual indicator to this area.

What a great idea!

[hades1001]

10/11/12: 1120 - Increased air hq and group leader effect on raid coordination.

which skills of leaders(inspiration, air) will effect on the coordination?

Thanks M.

[michaelm75au]

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

I'm having difficulties loading mines on my Japanese subs. The chart shows port 7 and above as a 'Y' for access.

Subs are at Hiroshima which is a size 9 port

patch is 1.7.11.19e

Subs are I-121 thru 124.

I've got 646 Naval support @ the base.

Am I doing something brain-damaged or is there a glitch in loading mines?

Thanks for any feedback,

Mike


Regarding if I have type 88 Mines (good question Quixote - I should have showed this earlier):

Are you forming a sub mine laying TF? Mines wont be loaded into sub (even if it had dedicated mine slot) unless in a mine laying TF.

[michaelm75au]

ORIGINAL: hades1001

10/11/12: 1120 - Increased air hq and group leader effect on raid coordination.

which skills of leaders(inspiration, air) will effect on the coordination?

Thanks M.

air

[michaelm75au]

ORIGINAL: Kull

For those who spend a lot of time reviewing experience gains among their pilots, the color coding is a godsend (green=today, orange=this month). Now that I'm finally playing as Japan, I seem to be paying attention to EVERYTHING, and it occurred to me that given the importance of experience to ASW ships, it would be REALLY helpful if the same color coding could be applied to the Night/Day "Crew Experience" ratings. Not a huge deal in the big scheme of things, obviously, but if the coding was similar and not too much extra effort, it would be nice to extend the same visual indicator to this area.

There is no 'previous' value stored for ship experience to compare against in order to say it has changed. Will keep in mind though.

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: michaelm

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

I'm having difficulties loading mines on my Japanese subs. The chart shows port 7 and above as a 'Y' for access.

Subs are at Hiroshima which is a size 9 port

patch is 1.7.11.19e

Subs are I-121 thru 124.

I've got 646 Naval support @ the base.

Am I doing something brain-damaged or is there a glitch in loading mines?

Thanks for any feedback,

Mike


Regarding if I have type 88 Mines (good question Quixote - I should have showed this earlier):

Are you forming a sub mine laying TF? Mines wont be loaded into sub (even if it had dedicated mine slot) unless in a mine laying TF.

Hi Michael - that was the problem - thanx!

[Kull]

ORIGINAL: michaelm

There is no 'previous' value stored for ship experience to compare against in order to say it has changed. Will keep in mind though.

Thanks for checking. As always, appreciate the support!

[Omat]

Hello

Using patch 1120:

1. Start the game as japan
2. Go to Singapur, "Task Force 1" (Carrier) and than to the Chitose
3. Go to the "Chitose-1" Float plane unit

Now take a closer look. The unit could have max. 12 planes and it have 10 pilots.

4. Press the "Request Vetran" button and set the filter to only patrol pilots:

Now above stands: "There are 61 Pilots in the list - 6 pilots are needed"

Now I ask myself: "There are 61 Pilots in the list - 2 pilots are needed" should this the proper massage?

Omat