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Cent Pac

Guam held a few days but has now fallen. Also Wake, Tulagi, Ocean & Nauru islands.

North Pac

Attu & Shemya are now Japanese, having fallen to token IJA units. I've sent a small SAG consisting of 2 Omaha class CLs and a short division of four-stackers to the theater.

China

China probably deserves two or three posts itself but here's an overview of my grand strategic plan:

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Dude in life jacket doing the backstroke. Looks like a shark got his legs. I hope this grand strategy is confined to China. [:D]

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Thanks for stopping by. I've lurked on your AAR before but haven't posted since I've yet to have words of wisdom, or even silliness, to offer as of yet.
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CL Boise and her sisters should be classified CAs. They have considerably more armor than most CLs and two to three times the firepower. I adore that design. [&o]

I love the Brooklyn's also. I'm still in the process of re-organizing my US Fleet but I plan to use that class as well as the New Orleans class CAs as the backbone of my SAGs.
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Dude in life jacket doing the backstroke. Looks like a shark got his legs. I hope this grand strategy is confined to China. [:D]

I have an even better plan than that for the Pacific!

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Edit: While I'm usually pretty humble I have to brag a little: I'm doing a very good job at implementing the above plan. I've already lost 203 ships!!!

I probably haven't reported on it enough but here's the allied ship losses to date:

BB/BC - 1 (POW, lost Dec 7th)
CA/CL - 4 CL (Boise, Danae lost Dec 7th. Adelaide & Marblehead lost subsequently.)
DDs - 5 (3 at Manila)
SS - 22 (21 at Manila)
Others - I don't want to count.

My opponent did a very good job in interdicting shipping leaving the PI. Both by air & by sea. I didn't count exactly but I doubt I saved more than a dozen or so ships from there. He's also waging a very annoying sub war. I can pretty much count on losing at least 1-2 ships/day. Hopefully that'll get a little better as my ASW forces improve & I organize convoys. Most of my transports are still sailing unescorted as I consolidate my shipping.
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12/31/41 - 1/2/42

As outlined above I continue to lose ships. Fortunately I still have Admiral Bonnie on my side - she takes personal control of SS KXI and send 3 torps into CA Chokai.

My intelligence officers have been saying for a while that 3 other Japanese cruisers have been sunk. Two received single torp hits, the last received a single mine hit. Anyway I've discounted those reports but I tend to believe them when they tell me Chokai is sunk. A new Top Secret intelligence program - the "Aircraft Losses Intelligence Screen" - reports 3 float planes destroyed on the ground.



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Elsewhere

Malaya

IJA troops at Johore Bahru are already driving at Singapore. I expect to see @1200-1500 AV vs my 650 AV & level 2 forts. I am going to lose Singers far earlier than I wanted to... [:(]

Also the Japanese caught whiff of Operation Bug Out. LRCAP over Kuala Lumpur shot down 2 transports and I've discontinued the operation. It lasted for 2-3 weeks & I consider it a partial success - if & when I get everybody together I should be able to combine the 11th Indian Division at @ 40% TOE strength. Not great but I'm happy to salvage something from the disaster that is Malaya.

China

This continues to be a fluid theater. In the north Chengchow was lost with heavy lost of life & I'm at risk of being surrounded at Loyang. In the south IJA forces entered Wuchow well before my reinforcements could arrive. Not all doom & gloom - will post another pic next update.

DEI/Australia

A small IJN SAG enters Darwin. The CA Houston, with 5 4-stackers as escorts, holds her own. Chikuma only received 3 hits in 2 engagements but all were penetrating 8". Hopefully she'll need some yard time.

Concurrently IJN forces are spotted seemingly headed in the direction of Koepang.

I'm not quite sure why the Chikuma raid was ordered. Anticipating an easy kill against some transports? Trying to neutralize a potential threat to a Timor invasion? Dunno.

I haven't reinforced Timor at all yet & I my naval forces are not well positioned currently to contest an attack there if that's what the sneaky Japanese are doing.

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Random Strategic Thoughts

I've only made a couple decisions on what might be considered the strategic level so far:

1. With a Dec 7th Manila strike, not a PH strike, I consider any offensive against the Hawaiian islands extremely unlikely. I'll still build up defenses there just to be prudent but I sent a number of units from the West Coast to South Pac that might otherwise be going to Hawaii. The initial reinforcements of Samoa are now safely ashore. Fiji & New Caledonia reinforcements will arrive within a week or less.

2. With POW sunk on Dec 7th I decided to send Warspite to take her place in Force Z as soon as she was fully repaired at Seattle. She's currently in the wormhole and will arrive in the Indian Ocean sometime before 1953.

That's it for my decisions. Here are some random thoughts:

Singapore is going to fall WAY too soon. Alex seems to be concentrating on taking the SRA. I suspect most of those troops currently in Malaya will be used to take Java but he could probably spin some off to invade elsewhere. I haven't mentioned it before but the first air raids against Java have started already.

Even if he uses all the Malaya troops to take Java he'll still have time to launch a strong Phase II offensive.

Other random & disjointed observations: in South Pac the Japanese expanded as far as Luganville pretty quickly but I've had 2 patrol plane squadrons in the area for a week or so now & they've noticed absolutely no Japanese shipping. IJN subs have been active in West Pac, Cent Pac & (relatively less) Indian Ocean. Nothing around Australia, etc. I've lost track of KB for a couple weeks?! Sigint hasn't told me anything yet about Phase II objectives. For the most part my opponent has kept me off balance & leaning in the wrong direction...

I Australian Corps starts arriving in about 1 1/2 weeks & I haven't decided yet where to commit them. Want to decide on something before they start arriving.

Any thoughts or suggestions?

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2. With POW sunk on Dec 7th I decided to send Warspite to take her place in Force Z as soon as she was fully repaired at Seattle. She's currently in the wormhole and will arrive in the Indian Ocean sometime before 1953.

Warspite must be withdrawn. Do it at your first opportunity (in Panama) and forget about it. You can't afford the PP cost.

edit: she would slow your carriers down (if you are using her to screen) and you don't need her for bombardments before amphibious landings because you don't have anything to land (unless you're leaving a lot of stuff undefended that you shouldn't). She's a wonderful ship (for WWI) but don't think about using the New York for that duty either.

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Edit: While I'm usually pretty humble I have to brag a little: I'm doing a very good job at implementing the above plan. I've already lost 203 ships!!!

From my experience trying almost everything, the best thing to do is bull right through them. Your main problem with the PI ships is that light carrier force to the south. They can only sink so many ships (using Kates and Vals). Surface TFs are actually more dangerous and you should put your ships trying to escape on absolute and direct. Even doing that, they will still misbehave alot, just deal with it. Do not try to have the Houston track down the CVL force as it includes 3 CAs. The Kates will have a difficult time with a CA at speed and she'll get through most likely. If you order her to engage in a surface action, she'll be sunk.

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Thanks for stopping by. I've lurked on your AAR before but haven't posted since I've yet to have words of wisdom, or even silliness, to offer as of yet.


It's not very hard to be silly, I'm a moron and I manage nicely. Please feel free to embarass yourself in my AAR.

edit: Speaking about that CVL force, if I were playing the IJN, I'd let loose two of those CAs on surface combat with maximal reaction range. No need to worry about Allied subs, just go for it.

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Warspite must be withdrawn. Do it at your first opportunity (in Panama) and forget about it. You can't afford the PP cost.

I plan to use her in Force Z with Repulse. I'm not worried about the PP cost yet - I'm pretty confident I can sink her before her withdrawal date...
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From my experience trying almost everything, the best thing to do is bull right through them. Your main problem with the PI ships is that light carrier force to the south. They can only sink so many ships (using Kates and Vals). Surface TFs are actually more dangerous and you should put your ships trying to escape on absolute and direct. Even doing that, they will still misbehave alot, just deal with it. Do not try to have the Houston track down the CVL force as it includes 3 CAs. The Kates will have a difficult time with a CA at speed and she'll get through most likely. If you order her to engage in a surface action, she'll be sunk.

He had Baby KB to the South of the Philippines, Kaga & Akagi to the West, 1 lone CVL/CVE to the north and the rest of the IJN Fleet CVs just to the east of Luzon. Plus a number of DD TFs patrolling in strategic locations. Thanks for the tip on the routing. I think most my ships had various "safe" orders and they wandered around all over the place.
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It's not very hard to be silly, I'm a moron and I manage nicely. Please feel free to embarass yourself in my AAR.

OK, I'll try my best...
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1/3/42

Malaya

Bad news continues in Malaya. The Japanese cross the causeway:


Ground combat at Singapore (50,84)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 45551 troops, 492 guns, 95 vehicles, Assault Value = 1585

Defending force 33370 troops, 420 guns, 283 vehicles, Assault Value = 687

Japanese adjusted assault: 496

Allied adjusted defense: 735

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 2)

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Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)

Japanese ground losses:
4510 casualties reported
Squads: 139 destroyed, 71 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 68 disabled
Engineers: 35 destroyed, 40 disabled
Guns lost 57 (26 destroyed, 31 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2168 casualties reported
Squads: 36 destroyed, 148 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 63 disabled
Engineers: 4 destroyed, 23 disabled
Guns lost 46 (8 destroyed, 38 disabled)

The only good news is that the forts didn't drop. My troops are now down to about 500 AV however.

DEI

Well, I was correct in predicting an attack against Kopeang last turn. Not much I can do about it though. It hasn't been reinforced & the base will fall shortly.

So Pac

What appears to be a lone Japanese CVL is spotted east of the Solomons, headed SE.

West Coast

Quixote is waging an ever more aggressive submarine offensive. There are two Jap subs within spitting distance of both San Francisco & San Diego. I believe there are at least a couple more subs further out, too. I'd estimate the IJN subs sank at least 6 transports in this area in recent days and heavily damaged 2 more.

Transports from all over the map are just starting to trickle in. They're almost all unescorted so it's a happy hunting gtound for the Japanese.

Despite a lot of naval search & ASW patrols, plus 3 weak ASW TFs, I've had no luck at all with these subs. While I did have the foresight to set the entire 39th Bomber Group to ASW training on Dec 8th I did unfortunately overlook filling those squadrons with pilots. Admiral Bonnie was so disappointed in me when we noticed it that she ate my glasses last night.

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North China

This continues to be a mess. Chengchow fell with huge loss of life. The remnants at Loyang were ordered to retreat but an IJA tank unit soon cut off their retreat path to the west.

I thought about this for a while but I decided to commit my last nearby reserves to try to break the blockade west of Loyang. My intelligence is imperfect but I think I'll be facing 200 AV or less of IJA tanks. I have 500 AV of Chinese infantry. If I'm wrong the road to Sian will be open for at least a couple weeks. If I'm right and can extract the Loyang units I'll be in a much more defensible position.

Nanyang exchanged hands twice without loss of life. I retreated & the Japs took it. Then the Japs retreated & I took it back. In a few days I'll have @1100 AV assembled here. In a couple weeks I'll have another 1000 AV or so of semi-experienced units that have up to now been besieging Hangkow.

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South China

This is going a little bit better than the north.

A shock attack (barely, just barely) broke a Japanese roadblock in the woods east of Canton. The Japanese are fleeing & I'm chasing.

In the meantime the IJA offensive against Wuchow was much weaker than I thought. I have enough force to route them but my opponent has reinforcements coming - I don't know how strong they are nor when they will arrive. In hindsight I think I should have attacked but I've already sent the Jan 4th turn.

I have 400+ AV reinforcing too but they're still 5-6 days away. 2 artillery units will arrive sooner.

I just lost the supply generation at Chengchow. I'll lose Loyang's supplies in 4-5 days tops. I'd really hate to lose the supplies here too. We'll see...

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Quixote is waging an ever more aggressive submarine offensive. There are two Jap subs within spitting distance of both San Francisco & San Diego. I believe there are at least a couple more subs further out, too. I'd estimate the IJN subs sank at least 6 transports in this area in recent days and heavily damaged 2 more.

Do not patrol the open sea for subs, they are more likely to sink your DDs AMs or whatever than you are to sink them (early on before ASW upgrades). Also you have no air crews in any way competent to do ASW. Just hope the search plane units learn how to do it by trying. But how about those Bolos at Anchorage. Set them to train pilots for ASW and in maybe 3 months or so you'll have some people who can do it. I would suggest however, that you send them to Catalina units who are doing search/training at 50/50, so they can round out their experience with naval search. Search planes that spot subs will sink more of them than your ASW patrols, anyway.

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Warspite must be withdrawn. Do it at your first opportunity (in Panama) and forget about it. You can't afford the PP cost.

I plan to use her in Force Z with Repulse. I'm not worried about the PP cost yet - I'm pretty confident I can sink her before her withdrawal date...


Ha Ha! I never thought to ask if things scheduled for withdrawal cost PPs when they don't exist anymore. You're probably wise to sucker the Brits into being cannonfodder now, so you can save your pathetic 21 knot BBs to be cannon fodder later on.

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By the way, does Adm. Bonnie set out to sea from the Firth of Clyde?

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By the way, does Adm. Bonnie set out to sea from the Firth of Clyde?

Nae, lad. The Firth of Forth. Her family has roots nearby.

As an aside - my family traditionally gives dogs names with some sort of Scottish connection. She was so cute as a pup that "Bonnie" was the only appropriate name. I'll try to do an update in a bit, but here's a pic of the Admiral when she was a mere ensign:



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1/4 - 1/5/42

South Pac

On the 3rd what I thought was a lone CVL was spotted east of the Solomons. It disappeared on the 4th. On the 5th we've now spotted at least a good portion of the KB near the New Hebrides, apparently heading towards New Caledonia.

I'm not sure if I should believe the top line of my patrol plane's report or the bottom. Top line: 5 CVs, 3 CVLs & 1 CVE. Kaga's probably in the body & fender shop so except for a couple CVEs that would be all the IJN flattops.

Bottom line of the report: 73 fighters & 107 bombers on the Jap carriers. If that's true with USMC squadrons onboard the 3 USN CVs I have nearby slightly outnumber those figures. I could bring them to bear in 3-4 turns. Yorktown's at least two weeks away.

I'm not going to contest it - the risk far outweighs the reward. It's not a done deal yet but it still would suck to lose New Caledonia particularly considering how close I had my reinforcements. See the pic:

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DEI

The Japanese have taken Koepang on Timor and a bunch of nearby islands, including one island which is the home of a French bipedal elephant. The allied cause may be doomed now...

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Burma

This has largely been a quiet theater so far. There have been some air battles over Rangoon - 1st Squadron AVG did pretty well until the IJA brought in some overpowering force & we had to retreat for the moment.

In the ground war there is 1 IJA tank unit that just recently made it to Moulmein but there doesn't appear to be a serious offensive on that axis. However I did just spot 3 formations at Chiang Mai that might be trying to do an end around.

Not quite sure how to respond to that yet but as slow as their movement will be I'm sure I've got a few days to make up my mind.

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Elsewhere

China's still very active. More bad news in the north but modestly good news in the south. More of an update soon.

Two IJN subs were reported to have hit mines in the last two turns. One is reported as sunk though my intelligence officers are often too optimistic.
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