Aircraft research.

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RE: Aircraft research.

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Couple of questions.

1) How can I see the status of the research for each plane? Eg. The amount of produced points.
2) How can I see when a plane is ready for production?
3) If I have an assembly of plane X, but no engines and parts for it ( not made nor in stock), am I still getting these things called 'frames' in stock for plane X?
3a) if this is the case what happens when an engine and part is produced? Do I immediately get a whole plane regardless of the factories assebling them?
3b) Is there any way to see the number of 'frames' in stock if they really go to there?
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RE: Aircraft research.

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ORIGINAL: Have

Couple of questions.

1) How can I see the status of the research for each plane? Eg. The amount of produced points. N/A right now
2) How can I see when a plane is ready for production?
if you were reseaching it, you "should" have some built when it is ready, first of the month is the time to check, or if one of the testing units come it, it will have a date with it in the reinforcement list
3) If I have an assembly of plane X, but no engines and parts for it ( not made nor in stock), am I still getting these things called 'frames' in stock for plane X?
yes, you are making the Frames (Assembly) if you are only building Frames, it will show in the production list that you need engine/part for it (IE, if you are building 3 109H-2 frames, you would show that you need 3 DB 628 Engines, and 3 BF 109H-Parts)

3a) if this is the case what happens when an engine and part is produced? Do I immediately get a whole plane regardless of the factories assebling them?

maybe not immediately, but yes, it will be built from the parts in stock (I would read the AFAC as building the Frame and putting the parts togeather, which if no AFAC is still building that Frame type, a sub site would still be putting them togeather)
3b) Is there any way to see the number of 'frames' in stock if they really go to there?

not yet, is on the list, really, the Production list is 100 times better then it was before, but it is/can be confusing, so if we can, we want to add in more info to it, but that is in Harley's hands, not mine
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RE: Aircraft research.

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Alright, thanks for the quick answer!
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RE: Aircraft research.

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Update.

Late December and my He219s are finally rolling off the assembly lines (I guess technically they are airframes having engines added that rolled off the assembly lines some time ago!)

Its one more complexity for the production system though... I've now probably got a large amount of He219 assemblies (which I can't see), I can see I've got a large number of parts, meaning that this will continue to eat up the engines probably long after I need He219s... probably interfering with my Do335 production! (Well probably not that long, but you know what I mean).

It just makes it more difficult to know when to change production. To me, changing the "assembly" component means changing production, but actually if you have loads of assemblies already made it means nothing of the sort. Oh well, the sooner we can see these stockpiles the better.
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well, remember, not every aircraft, was built in one place, and some of these, were built in despots, and held there, either waiting for the parts to finish, or for the units to come and pick up the plane (early on, I wanted the stockpile to be on the map, you ruin the hangers, wharehouses with the parts in them, you ruin weeks of production)

(there are recon snaps of 410s sitting around a airfield at a plant, that wasn't making 410s any more, they didn't have the engines and knew that they never would, so the 410s were places around the other side of the airfield, in the hopes they would attrack attention, if anything came over to attack)

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RE: Aircraft research.

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I'd be very happy if you could just pile your half completed aircraft that you don't need on some out of the way airfield to attract fighter ground attack. At least there should be some way of shutting down production of aircraft you don't want.

My latest example is this. I make 7 x DB605A engines per day. The three aircraft in my inventory that use them are:

Bf109G-6
Bf110G-4 and most importantly, since its just become available
Bf110G-4/R7

Unfortunately, just like my He219 problem outlined here, I'm not building any of the R7 versions because the available engines are going to the other two types. But its worse than before because I have *no* assembly lines producing the first two types. So even though I don't want/need any more of them, my factories today delivered 2 x Bf109G-6 and 4 x Bf110G4... so again using the "invisible stockpile" of assemblies, which obviously means I've no idea how long this will go on for before I get aircraft I actually want.

Incidentally, I'm wondering how the game assigns these engines when there are several demands. Is it based on units in service? I do have several gruppen of the 109G-6 and 110G-4 (although enough spares in the pool to cover losses), but no groups of 110G-4/R7. I'm thinking I might try to form a group with the single R7 aircraft I did get on the first day of availability (perhaps this is coded by the game to let you know a new type is available?), to see if this helps get any more built.

EDIT: changed one unit over to give it my single R7, and sure enough on the next two days it got one new aircraft per day. Meant to change a Stab but ended up changing a Gruppe... didn't amend the mistake as it seemed amusing to visualise the 38 pilots running to see who could get one of the three aircraft! Then one got shot down the next day of all things, so I don't think I'm going to have a large 110G-4/R7 force in the near future!
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RE: Aircraft research.

Post by BIG ERN »

So if I understand correctly [newbie here] if i want to advance production of say the ME262, I switch at least one factory to parts and one to frames..and when enough have been built i will start getting aircraft?
In other words there is no "research" button, just adjust the production?
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RE: Aircraft research.

Post by BIG ERN »

i am about to start a PBEM campaign so I have Another newbie question[s]

1] ..what planes should I be building? I mean of existing in the campaign scenario? Should I be switching over ME 109 to FW 190? Ju88 to ME410?? . in other words.. what are the best planes to have. I thought it would be FW190.. and perhaps a good night fighter. I trust your experience will save me some time...

2] ..I have played short scenarios in the game.. and never seen RAF bomber command show up.. yet in some forums I see them mentioned. In the campaign scenarios does the RAF show up..?

3] I also am having difficulty distinguiishing night fighters? Can I assume every plane except 109 and 190s are night fighters and therfore should be avoided using except against unescorted bombers deep in the Reich?
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