'Engineer to the bridge"
Ahh, Minobe............we are going to sprint into Palua tomorrow night, try to avoid any bukas. Any problems downstairs?'
'No my Captain"
"Good"
The little ship that could.
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RE: The little ship that could.
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RE: The little ship that could.
intercepted radio message from HQ cantona, to Washington.
............we may have to seriously think about what we are going to do next.................
............we may have to seriously think about what we are going to do next.................
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RE: The little ship that could.
6/2/44
In war, lots of things go wrong, or not as planned.
(Sometimes, I think, the winner in war is the one who is the least confused)
Pilot officer "Long pig"Grahams postings don't exactly go as intended
Upon arrival at the field, he is not surprised to find out "vengence bombers old boy?.........retired them months ago, we do have beauforts though.....you can fly them I assume?"
Not quite a mozzie............but not too bad never the less.
Not until of course on his frst mission back over the jungles of Northern Thialand. There Pilot Officer Graham finds himself detached from the rest of the flight, detached, lost, and the sole target for half a dozen sleek KI 61 fighters...........
He's been in the jungle before, but this time, as he floats down towards the green hell, things are a little different.
80 miles east of Moulmien, south of the river.
Not a road in sight
And 6 full enemy divisions between him and home..................
In war, lots of things go wrong, or not as planned.
(Sometimes, I think, the winner in war is the one who is the least confused)
Pilot officer "Long pig"Grahams postings don't exactly go as intended
Upon arrival at the field, he is not surprised to find out "vengence bombers old boy?.........retired them months ago, we do have beauforts though.....you can fly them I assume?"
Not quite a mozzie............but not too bad never the less.
Not until of course on his frst mission back over the jungles of Northern Thialand. There Pilot Officer Graham finds himself detached from the rest of the flight, detached, lost, and the sole target for half a dozen sleek KI 61 fighters...........
He's been in the jungle before, but this time, as he floats down towards the green hell, things are a little different.
80 miles east of Moulmien, south of the river.
Not a road in sight
And 6 full enemy divisions between him and home..................
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RE: The little ship that could.
6/42/44
We step out of the story...............
Oh for heavens sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
CVL Mizuho................slotted by a ss torpedo just north of Ambon.
An AR, a gazzilion E type escorts are dispatched to another little horror story. I swear, this one (and shoho) I will get home!
............ok, back into it
(High command will leave Zuiho in ignorance of this little incident, the paranoia about SS on Japans carriers is serious enough as it is)
We step out of the story...............
Oh for heavens sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
CVL Mizuho................slotted by a ss torpedo just north of Ambon.
An AR, a gazzilion E type escorts are dispatched to another little horror story. I swear, this one (and shoho) I will get home!
............ok, back into it
(High command will leave Zuiho in ignorance of this little incident, the paranoia about SS on Japans carriers is serious enough as it is)
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RE: The little ship that could.
6/2/44
Just after dawn, the fleet turns due east, some 200 miles due south of Davao
Destination palua. It will be a superficially quiet day, a steady breeze, a small chop, no enemy sightings of any kind.
The hated bukas are still about though, 3 to 4 are known to be near palua. Tonight Abe intends to run in at high speed.........hoping that this might make them just a little less vulnerable.
Below decks, between decks, everywhere, the word of the day is repair.
Two fighters remain broken, one has a cracked main spar, the other requires an engine change, there are no spare engines remaining however..
The firing of the guns, the shock of the near misses has cracked her in several places, especially about the hastily constructed gun bays of last refit. The bright arc of welding dots her in three places today.
Hirate's Aft diesel is a goer again, replaced on the work list of eternal torment by a siezed fire pump.
Its the forced draft blower that is giving Charge kittens.
Blowers are just great fans, about 4 feet deep by 6 feet in diameter, driven by a single row turbine, all nestled in trunking.
They spin at prodigious speeds, 8000 to 11000 rpm.
Much faster, and that fan is going to seperate from the turbine, and the turbine itself is going to run free, and nothing very much will stop either item until they hit the ocean............and God help anyone or thing in their path.
The overspeed trip protects the blower from this.
This one, Charge can tell, is broken.
Here, on the top plates, behind the boiler, temperatures are at 140 degrees f, and the noise is unbelievable, a shrieking howling whine of machinery,
Hells airconditioning..........
"The pilot pin disc must be gone!............" he has to nearly scream over the fans shriek "see............the lever is moving.....the, shaft is going up and down, but the main valve is not getting steam!"
Minobe tries to peer closer, sweat sheening upon his face .
Even down here, the smell of stale whisky passes Charges nostrils.
Charge waits for the engineer to comment ( gods.........he doesn't understand.....surely he can see?.......or is he too bloody pissed again?)
"The Captain says we need full power in 6 hours time.can you ficx it by then?"
NO!!.........its a three day job ....at least!"
Three days!!?
'Yes sir...........!" ( I am walking in quicksand here.......too hard in this noise, this heat, to emphasise what I need him to understand........)., the whole throttle assembly has to come off.........some of these bolts look like moses welded them in himself!"
For another long minute Minobe stares at the valve. Then he straightens. "palua. we fix it at palua"
"But sir.if it overspeeds............"
'Then don't let it charge!, just don't let it!"
Just after dawn, the fleet turns due east, some 200 miles due south of Davao
Destination palua. It will be a superficially quiet day, a steady breeze, a small chop, no enemy sightings of any kind.
The hated bukas are still about though, 3 to 4 are known to be near palua. Tonight Abe intends to run in at high speed.........hoping that this might make them just a little less vulnerable.
Below decks, between decks, everywhere, the word of the day is repair.
Two fighters remain broken, one has a cracked main spar, the other requires an engine change, there are no spare engines remaining however..
The firing of the guns, the shock of the near misses has cracked her in several places, especially about the hastily constructed gun bays of last refit. The bright arc of welding dots her in three places today.
Hirate's Aft diesel is a goer again, replaced on the work list of eternal torment by a siezed fire pump.
Its the forced draft blower that is giving Charge kittens.
Blowers are just great fans, about 4 feet deep by 6 feet in diameter, driven by a single row turbine, all nestled in trunking.
They spin at prodigious speeds, 8000 to 11000 rpm.
Much faster, and that fan is going to seperate from the turbine, and the turbine itself is going to run free, and nothing very much will stop either item until they hit the ocean............and God help anyone or thing in their path.
The overspeed trip protects the blower from this.
This one, Charge can tell, is broken.
Here, on the top plates, behind the boiler, temperatures are at 140 degrees f, and the noise is unbelievable, a shrieking howling whine of machinery,
Hells airconditioning..........
"The pilot pin disc must be gone!............" he has to nearly scream over the fans shriek "see............the lever is moving.....the, shaft is going up and down, but the main valve is not getting steam!"
Minobe tries to peer closer, sweat sheening upon his face .
Even down here, the smell of stale whisky passes Charges nostrils.
Charge waits for the engineer to comment ( gods.........he doesn't understand.....surely he can see?.......or is he too bloody pissed again?)
"The Captain says we need full power in 6 hours time.can you ficx it by then?"
NO!!.........its a three day job ....at least!"
Three days!!?
'Yes sir...........!" ( I am walking in quicksand here.......too hard in this noise, this heat, to emphasise what I need him to understand........)., the whole throttle assembly has to come off.........some of these bolts look like moses welded them in himself!"
For another long minute Minobe stares at the valve. Then he straightens. "palua. we fix it at palua"
"But sir.if it overspeeds............"
'Then don't let it charge!, just don't let it!"
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RE: The little ship that could.
I would need an engineer to explain to me whether it is more dangerous to run the forced draft blower in spite of risk, or lose three or four or five knots (?how many?) in submarine waters. Right now I am inclined to damn the risk, and go ahead full speed. Or is the blower not merely "at risk", but certain to self-destruct?
"Leveling large cities has a tendency to alienate the affections of the inhabitants and does not create an atmosphere of international good will after the war." -Rear Admiral Daniel V. Gallery
RE: The little ship that could.
And there, of course, is the rub of it.
Risk the blower, or lose the boiler (you cannot connect it with one blower at high speeds, the other three will tend to try to bank it, which is NOT good for its circulation), and have speed reduced to 21 knots.
This is, however, war, and as incompetent as he may be at times, Minobe does see here the bigger picture.
Charge cares only for his machinery, the war just gets in the way.
Minobe knows, understands better, that this ship is here to support the war, and tonight, that means full power.
Full power may mean life.
It is a long night for the men down stairs.
The gamble pays off, and the fleet pulls into palua at dawn, un detected, un molested.
It scatters across the lagoon, and rushes to complete its work.
Palua, all are acutely aware, is in enemy heavy bomber range.
But this is the only base in reach with fuel, with torpedoes, and with replacement aircraft.
Another great risk
Zuiho secures her forward boilers at 0600 hours.
They are not going to be here long, everyone knows it.
Three days Charge said.
He gathers a team. he has one day to fix this little problem............
With a scowl, a spit onto the deck, he hefts the biggest sledge hammer on board.
"Ok blower, lets do it"
In 140 degree heat, they begin.
Risk the blower, or lose the boiler (you cannot connect it with one blower at high speeds, the other three will tend to try to bank it, which is NOT good for its circulation), and have speed reduced to 21 knots.
This is, however, war, and as incompetent as he may be at times, Minobe does see here the bigger picture.
Charge cares only for his machinery, the war just gets in the way.
Minobe knows, understands better, that this ship is here to support the war, and tonight, that means full power.
Full power may mean life.
It is a long night for the men down stairs.
The gamble pays off, and the fleet pulls into palua at dawn, un detected, un molested.
It scatters across the lagoon, and rushes to complete its work.
Palua, all are acutely aware, is in enemy heavy bomber range.
But this is the only base in reach with fuel, with torpedoes, and with replacement aircraft.
Another great risk
Zuiho secures her forward boilers at 0600 hours.
They are not going to be here long, everyone knows it.
Three days Charge said.
He gathers a team. he has one day to fix this little problem............
With a scowl, a spit onto the deck, he hefts the biggest sledge hammer on board.
"Ok blower, lets do it"
In 140 degree heat, they begin.
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RE: The little ship that could.
aaaargh...........no turn in in box!..........how can this be????[:(]
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RE: The little ship that could.
9/2/44
It was just another job, another entry in the defect log, a line of writing in Minobes Engineering Master log, a line in the Captains ships book.
The blower is repaired, its silent now, for Zuiho is cruising on two boilers, heading north from palua.
Just another job
History will never speak of the pain, of the heat, the sweat, the fainting men, the bolts that sheered, the bolts that stubbonly refused to yield, the men who refused to yield as well.
No History will not talk of this battle.
But there will be a footnote.............5 of the six men who work this job have recieved a silent death sentence.
One that will be delayed many a year, but will be carried out in time.
For forced draft blowers are heavily lagged you see, lagging that had to be broken free, by men who have never heard of dust protectors and masks
Lagged with asbestos.
It was just another job, another entry in the defect log, a line of writing in Minobes Engineering Master log, a line in the Captains ships book.
The blower is repaired, its silent now, for Zuiho is cruising on two boilers, heading north from palua.
Just another job
History will never speak of the pain, of the heat, the sweat, the fainting men, the bolts that sheered, the bolts that stubbonly refused to yield, the men who refused to yield as well.
No History will not talk of this battle.
But there will be a footnote.............5 of the six men who work this job have recieved a silent death sentence.
One that will be delayed many a year, but will be carried out in time.
For forced draft blowers are heavily lagged you see, lagging that had to be broken free, by men who have never heard of dust protectors and masks
Lagged with asbestos.
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RE: The little ship that could.
"Is this wise you think?" hidaka asks
Takeji laughs......'is anything in war wise? Who knows my friend. At least we are free of palua."
"But Kaga remains"
"ah yes...........broken already...........thats what comes from rushing I suppose"
The fleet is steaming north, Zuiho with 4 other CVL, Yamato, Musashi, two heavy cruisers, the usual 9 destroyers. Not a plane flies.
It is, apparently, time for KB to vanish again.
Kaga, is, as Takeji says, broken. Rushed from the repair yards, flung south at full speed, her engineering plant has reacted as one would expect - badly.
She remains at palua, trying her best to sort her problems out.
It won't be easy, palua's AR ship is currently elswhere, trying to save certain other CVLs.
Is this wise?
Only if the enemy get a sniff of her alongside.
Takeji laughs......'is anything in war wise? Who knows my friend. At least we are free of palua."
"But Kaga remains"
"ah yes...........broken already...........thats what comes from rushing I suppose"
The fleet is steaming north, Zuiho with 4 other CVL, Yamato, Musashi, two heavy cruisers, the usual 9 destroyers. Not a plane flies.
It is, apparently, time for KB to vanish again.
Kaga, is, as Takeji says, broken. Rushed from the repair yards, flung south at full speed, her engineering plant has reacted as one would expect - badly.
She remains at palua, trying her best to sort her problems out.
It won't be easy, palua's AR ship is currently elswhere, trying to save certain other CVLs.
Is this wise?
Only if the enemy get a sniff of her alongside.
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RE: The little ship that could.
10/2/44
Its a quiet day, isn't it?
I hear we are going home to Japan, but, you know, we have been hearing THAT for months now. Just like we hear the Americans are negotiating surrender every second month...
But enough of that, are you ready for your Ticket on the Turbo generator? Achieve this my young stoker, and its no more boiler room for you ney!, you can come over to the luxury of the engine room, where temperatures are so much lower, and the space so less claustrophobic.
Ok then, away you go, I will be watching carefully...........
You've done it a dozen times, ...........
First, align the circulation pumps...and start them.
Good
Vent the condensor............bloody cock is so hard to reach
Alright.........the condensor shows only a little in the glas, better back fill it.......
Thats better.
Hope its enough.
Start the condensate pump on recirc, three turns should do it.
Crud, better check it actually started............(some times it doesn't)
OK, thats the condensor taken care of, now lets raise vacuum.
Gland steam.....ouch, hot.........2 to 3 psi...........bloody fiddly.
Now the air ejectors, opening 150 psi steam to them, gently!, gently!
Ahh, good, up she is coming.
Excuse me petty Officer, will you pump the oil pump, while I test the trip?
Ok, ........OK, and Bang!..that works.
Re set it.
Pump again please?............
Alright, open the main steam drain............nice whoosh...........shut em, crack the guard valve, crack the throttle...........OK, here she comes, 1000, 2000, 3, 4, .......8000 RPM -hit the trip.
Hey, it works!.........reset, and now we open her up to 11000 ..............
Down staris, quick, condensor is filling fast, shut the recirc, .......clear of salinity????..........yes, put to system.
Open exhaust to the TG, open the guard wide.
"Turbo Generator ready to be put on load Petty Officer!!!"
"Well done Able , just remember though, Hirate and Okano will want it done a lot quicker than that........and also, remember this is where the Charge watch keeps............so be on your toes!!!
easy hey?
Ships never stop.
Training never stops
Promotions never stop
They all promise a future
Strange to think, Febuary 1944, and Zuiho still has , or believes it still has one.
Its a quiet day, isn't it?
I hear we are going home to Japan, but, you know, we have been hearing THAT for months now. Just like we hear the Americans are negotiating surrender every second month...
But enough of that, are you ready for your Ticket on the Turbo generator? Achieve this my young stoker, and its no more boiler room for you ney!, you can come over to the luxury of the engine room, where temperatures are so much lower, and the space so less claustrophobic.
Ok then, away you go, I will be watching carefully...........
You've done it a dozen times, ...........
First, align the circulation pumps...and start them.
Good
Vent the condensor............bloody cock is so hard to reach
Alright.........the condensor shows only a little in the glas, better back fill it.......
Thats better.
Hope its enough.
Start the condensate pump on recirc, three turns should do it.
Crud, better check it actually started............(some times it doesn't)
OK, thats the condensor taken care of, now lets raise vacuum.
Gland steam.....ouch, hot.........2 to 3 psi...........bloody fiddly.
Now the air ejectors, opening 150 psi steam to them, gently!, gently!
Ahh, good, up she is coming.
Excuse me petty Officer, will you pump the oil pump, while I test the trip?
Ok, ........OK, and Bang!..that works.
Re set it.
Pump again please?............
Alright, open the main steam drain............nice whoosh...........shut em, crack the guard valve, crack the throttle...........OK, here she comes, 1000, 2000, 3, 4, .......8000 RPM -hit the trip.
Hey, it works!.........reset, and now we open her up to 11000 ..............
Down staris, quick, condensor is filling fast, shut the recirc, .......clear of salinity????..........yes, put to system.
Open exhaust to the TG, open the guard wide.
"Turbo Generator ready to be put on load Petty Officer!!!"
"Well done Able , just remember though, Hirate and Okano will want it done a lot quicker than that........and also, remember this is where the Charge watch keeps............so be on your toes!!!
easy hey?
Ships never stop.
Training never stops
Promotions never stop
They all promise a future
Strange to think, Febuary 1944, and Zuiho still has , or believes it still has one.
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RE: The little ship that could.
11/2/44
Admiral Abe is awokened to the sounds of the action alarms, the strident screaming alarm that can drag even the most fatigued of men out of the deepest sleep, and bring them running to their stations
He has been a sailor a long time has our fleet commander, and it is but moments for him to be racing up the stairs towards Zuikaku's bridge, moments to note however the vioelnt manouvering his flag ship is performing..........
"Who is it this time?" he snaps as he enters the bridge, out here, deep in the phillipine sea, this alarm can be only one thing
'Shokaku sir!".........she has been hit by two fish.............but both duds sir....destroyers attacking!
It is 10 am, the sea he notes, is grey, white capped, angry.
Perfect SS weather.
Combined Fleet has ten destroyers escorting, 10 of her latest destroyers, and now four of them are knifing in onto the starboard flank, hunting the Buka
"Enemy contact sir, Akitsuki attacking!"
Faintly, over the wind, the crump of the charges, followed by more, and then yet more
And abruptly.........gunfire
"Enemy surfaced!,am engaging!"
'Turn the fleet west by North west, he may have friends."
1100 hrs, and destroyer Akitsuki steams past, her light flashing "Have taken 3 survivors, requeast instructions"
Abe almost growls the reply "As if I need to tell him that..........send them for a swim , and send them swimming now"
War is brutal.
Mars is a hard god, I think. Barely has the order been carried out, barely have three brave men disapeared forever into the depths, than they are avenged.
Ahead of Zuikaku, on the port wing, CV Unryu reels to two explosions on her port side., and moments later, CV Amagi bursts into flames as two more fish find her flanks as well.......................
Admiral Abe is awokened to the sounds of the action alarms, the strident screaming alarm that can drag even the most fatigued of men out of the deepest sleep, and bring them running to their stations
He has been a sailor a long time has our fleet commander, and it is but moments for him to be racing up the stairs towards Zuikaku's bridge, moments to note however the vioelnt manouvering his flag ship is performing..........
"Who is it this time?" he snaps as he enters the bridge, out here, deep in the phillipine sea, this alarm can be only one thing
'Shokaku sir!".........she has been hit by two fish.............but both duds sir....destroyers attacking!
It is 10 am, the sea he notes, is grey, white capped, angry.
Perfect SS weather.
Combined Fleet has ten destroyers escorting, 10 of her latest destroyers, and now four of them are knifing in onto the starboard flank, hunting the Buka
"Enemy contact sir, Akitsuki attacking!"
Faintly, over the wind, the crump of the charges, followed by more, and then yet more
And abruptly.........gunfire
"Enemy surfaced!,am engaging!"
'Turn the fleet west by North west, he may have friends."
1100 hrs, and destroyer Akitsuki steams past, her light flashing "Have taken 3 survivors, requeast instructions"
Abe almost growls the reply "As if I need to tell him that..........send them for a swim , and send them swimming now"
War is brutal.
Mars is a hard god, I think. Barely has the order been carried out, barely have three brave men disapeared forever into the depths, than they are avenged.
Ahead of Zuikaku, on the port wing, CV Unryu reels to two explosions on her port side., and moments later, CV Amagi bursts into flames as two more fish find her flanks as well.......................
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RE: The little ship that could.
"Revolutions 290!"
1300 hrs. Zuiho begins to work again towards full speed
Her decks rumble as the jills launch into ASW patrols (as if they sem to help).......and the fleet commences zig zag .
Tokyo is 2 days away.
They will try to dash in.
Word has spread, terrible, terrible word
Combined fleet is broken
"You realise Hidaka, we are down to just 4 fleet carriers now, 4 fleet, and us 5 little ones..........."
Hidaka waits many moments before he replys, his voice thick with pain
"I never thought we could lose this way................."
1300 hrs. Zuiho begins to work again towards full speed
Her decks rumble as the jills launch into ASW patrols (as if they sem to help).......and the fleet commences zig zag .
Tokyo is 2 days away.
They will try to dash in.
Word has spread, terrible, terrible word
Combined fleet is broken
"You realise Hidaka, we are down to just 4 fleet carriers now, 4 fleet, and us 5 little ones..........."
Hidaka waits many moments before he replys, his voice thick with pain
"I never thought we could lose this way................."
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RE: The little ship that could.
12/2/44
A massive convoy of LSTs, APs and support ships, has been steadily tracked creeping up the coast towards darwin.
Today, battle ships Kirishima and her 3 sisters, position themselves just north of babar island.
They are attacked twice by beauforts, shooting three down for no damage.
At midnight, they turn south, and race towards Darwin, attempting to intercept
To their east, 2 CA's, a pack of DDs , race in too, target bathurst island airfield
Anger fills Japans High command
Strike back!, somehow, anyhow, just strike back!
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whippleofd
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RE: The little ship that could.
ORIGINAL: 1275psi
10/2/44
But enough of that, are you ready for your Ticket on the Turbo generator? Achieve this my young stoker, and its no more boiler room for you ney!, you can come over to the luxury of the engine room, where temperatures are so much lower, and the space so less claustrophobic.
Ok then, away you go, I will be watching carefully...........
You've done it a dozen times, ...........
First, align the circulation pumps...and start them.
Good
Vent the condensor............bloody cock is so hard to reach
Alright.........the condensor shows only a little in the glas, better back fill it.......
Thats better.
Hope its enough.
Start the condensate pump on recirc, three turns should do it.
Crud, better check it actually started............(some times it doesn't)
OK, thats the condensor taken care of, now lets raise vacuum.
Gland steam.....ouch, hot.........2 to 3 psi...........bloody fiddly.
Now the air ejectors, opening 150 psi steam to them, gently!, gently!
Ahh, good, up she is coming.
Excuse me petty Officer, will you pump the oil pump, while I test the trip?
Ok, ........OK, and Bang!..that works.
Re set it.
Pump again please?............
Alright, open the main steam drain............nice whoosh...........shut em, crack the guard valve, crack the throttle...........OK, here she comes, 1000, 2000, 3, 4, .......8000 RPM -hit the trip.
Hey, it works!.........reset, and now we open her up to 11000 ..............
Down staris, quick, condensor is filling fast, shut the recirc, .......clear of salinity????..........yes, put to system.
Open exhaust to the TG, open the guard wide.
"Turbo Generator ready to be put on load Petty Officer!!!"
"Well done Able , just remember though, Hirate and Okano will want it done a lot quicker than that........and also, remember this is where the Charge watch keeps............so be on your toes!!!
Nicely written.
We always had a problem with the trip throttle valve on #1 SSTG. No matter how many times it was taken apart and put back together it just never "felt" right, especially once the speed gov. took over and we spun it to engage the trip spring. I took that truk'er apart as a MM2 in 1986 and one final time as a MMC just before transfer in 1990; and multiple times in between.
I swear that shaft was about .0015" out of round when you mic'd it vertically, but not when you did it horizontally - which of course makes no sense. It always tripped in PM's just fine, but I also always hoped we never had to rely on it.... Just a feeling. Ya know?
Dang that was a while ago.
Whipple
MMCS(SW/AW) 1981-2001
1981 RTC, SD
81-82 NPS, Orlando
82-85 NPTU, Idaho Falls
85-90 USS Truxtun (CGN-35)
90-93 USS George Washington (CVN-73)
93-96 NFAS Orlando
96-01 Navsea-08/Naval Reactors
1981 RTC, SD
81-82 NPS, Orlando
82-85 NPTU, Idaho Falls
85-90 USS Truxtun (CGN-35)
90-93 USS George Washington (CVN-73)
93-96 NFAS Orlando
96-01 Navsea-08/Naval Reactors
RE: The little ship that could.
I CANNOT Believe these SS Attacks! Insanity...
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RE: The little ship that could.
No doubt the real IJN felt the same way... consider second half of 1944: us subs sank 2 CVs at Phillipine Sea (Taiho, Shokaku), then 2 more in November/December (Shinano, Unryu), and just for kicks they sank 2 CVEs as well during the same period (Taiyo, Unyo). Plus Battleship Kongo in November, and 2 CAs plus one crippled at Leyte Gulf, and who knows how many DDs etc!
The IJN high command must have thought the game engine was totally borked. US Subs WAY too powerful...
The IJN high command must have thought the game engine was totally borked. US Subs WAY too powerful...
RE: The little ship that could.
The game is TOTALLY broken...
The real history is obviously written by propagandists who spread LIES as to the effectiveness of the US Silent Service!
The real history is obviously written by propagandists who spread LIES as to the effectiveness of the US Silent Service!
Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: The little ship that could.
this will be my only comment on this outside the narrative
I cannot do anymore in the ss war, believe it or not, I am actually doing well against his ss, sinking 1 or 2 a week, and damaging many more
I drove his subs away from the biak, ambon area
I use massive amounts of ASW planes
All TFs have had 9 DDs, 8 at times
This attack was by 3 ss, in the same hex.
I sank 2, one got away
Its cudo's to cantona...........he micro manages SS like no other player I know.
My only bitch........how a dd can be hit by a torp, survive, and be back in a month
A 30000 ton carrier, iether sinks, or is ot for a year............that is not modelled too well at all.
sure tahio died from just one fish, it took a few more than that for all the others.
But..........it IS 44, its scene 1, i am still in PNG, burma, dei...........I no complain!!!
I cannot do anymore in the ss war, believe it or not, I am actually doing well against his ss, sinking 1 or 2 a week, and damaging many more
I drove his subs away from the biak, ambon area
I use massive amounts of ASW planes
All TFs have had 9 DDs, 8 at times
This attack was by 3 ss, in the same hex.
I sank 2, one got away
Its cudo's to cantona...........he micro manages SS like no other player I know.
My only bitch........how a dd can be hit by a torp, survive, and be back in a month
A 30000 ton carrier, iether sinks, or is ot for a year............that is not modelled too well at all.
sure tahio died from just one fish, it took a few more than that for all the others.
But..........it IS 44, its scene 1, i am still in PNG, burma, dei...........I no complain!!!
big seas, fast ships, life tastes better with salt
RE: The little ship that could.
A 30000 ton carrier, iether sinks, or is ot for a year............that is not modelled too well at all.
sure tahio died from just one fish, it took a few more than that for all the others.
Well, the IJN carriers were incredibly vulnerable to av gas explosions. Just as bad as being on a British battlecruiser at Jutland.
Hiyo was effectively lost to a single torpedo causing an av gas explosion at Phillipine Sea (also took 2 bomb hits, but they were immaterial to her loss). And Unryu was sunk by just 2 torps. The CVEs were of course very vulnerable as well - Taiyo and Unyo both sunk by 1 or 2 torps. And Mizuho (seaplane tender, but analogous to Chitose/Chiyoda conversions) was lost to a single torpedo hit. Taiho, as you mentioned. And of course the Midway debacle - 2 bombs sinking Akagi, 3 for Soryu, ...
Can't say whether the game models this well, but I guess any hit on an IJN carrier should be potentially fatal, given the av gas problems and dire IJN damage control.