Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
One caveat - your subs do need to fear mines. An experienced Japanese player will mine ports he takes and some of yours too! Most subs seem to survive one mine hit but two or three is very dangerous. Put your subs in an enemy port only if the prize is worth it [recon or other intel]. If the port is size 2 or larger it is assumed to have anti sub nets and your subs will not be able to attack disbanded ships anchored there. Smaller ports do not have nets and you can torpedo ships at anchor. It may take several turns to get a shot at them though - if they sight your periscope your sub dives and does not attack.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
k, yea i was thinking about mines, but definately defensively at ports he is inbound, or he took madang, so that would be a great candidate.
1-21-42
Ally subs torp an AK, Japs torp a TK near Suva
Japs unload at Madang, get bombed but we miss grrr
Betty raid on rangoon, 4 japs dest.
Japs bomb Singapore , clark, manilla, chusien
BB Kongo near Madjene 4 Hudsons miss it
KB raids Balikpapan and covers BB
We bombard Changsha and get 96
We hold off another del. atk at Langson
When you use a 2E bomber like Hudson or Marauder what altitude do you use for Naval Atk? im going 8k now.
1-21-42
Ally subs torp an AK, Japs torp a TK near Suva
Japs unload at Madang, get bombed but we miss grrr
Betty raid on rangoon, 4 japs dest.
Japs bomb Singapore , clark, manilla, chusien
BB Kongo near Madjene 4 Hudsons miss it
KB raids Balikpapan and covers BB
We bombard Changsha and get 96
We hold off another del. atk at Langson
When you use a 2E bomber like Hudson or Marauder what altitude do you use for Naval Atk? im going 8k now.
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
I use all level bombers on Low Naval because they never hit anything if they fly in the normal Nav B range above 4,000 feet. I use 1000 feet and they often get hits regardless of their level of training. You do do lose some to flak, but early in the war Japanese flak is weak. I am also expecting to lose most of those aircraft anyway, so they might as well accomplish something on their way out. I also try to pick vulnerable, soft-skinned targets like transports and avoid heavy CAP if I can. Being at very low altitude often dodges CAP as the ships don't see you until you are very close and the CAP has no chance to intercept. I send my fighters that can carry bombs in at 100 feet.
PS - I have been playing the AI on "Easy" setting while I get familiar with all the ins and outs of the game. At Normal setting you may get more losses and fewer hits than I did, but it will be better than high level bombing.
PS - I have been playing the AI on "Easy" setting while I get familiar with all the ins and outs of the game. At Normal setting you may get more losses and fewer hits than I did, but it will be better than high level bombing.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
I second BBfanboys post above. I use 1,000k ft for low nav.
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
I'm glad i asked bout naval atk levels I thought 8k was the sweet spot, maybe we will actually hit now!
1-22-42
Jap Landing at Madjene, we miss on the bombing
Japs bomb sing, manilla, wuchow, johore bahru
We bomb wuchow and singkawang
KB raids koepang and kendari
Japs del. atk manilla we lose 1 fort
Langson holds, we bombard changsha and hit 205 (we brought in some artillery)

1-22-42
Jap Landing at Madjene, we miss on the bombing
Japs bomb sing, manilla, wuchow, johore bahru
We bomb wuchow and singkawang
KB raids koepang and kendari
Japs del. atk manilla we lose 1 fort
Langson holds, we bombard changsha and hit 205 (we brought in some artillery)

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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-23-42
KBs raid, KB is very active now raiding and I've gotten a LOT of ships out of her grasp but she has also caught some TKs AVPS and some other misc ships. I'm a little dissapointed but I tell myself, hey its a huge carrier force, you cannot dodge it every time.
Japs subs sink 2x APs and it hurts!
We run the SAG at Ambon and sneak it up to raid legaspi, but the bad news is that it only gets one AKL
Rangoon sweeps we lose 1
Japs bomb manilla, sing, wenchow, wuchow, Johore Bahrum=, changsha (miss every time)
we bomb wuchow, changsha, singkawang
ASW at PH actually hits
Del atk at Langson holds
we bombard changsha and kill 51
Japs capture madjene
del atk manilla

KBs raid, KB is very active now raiding and I've gotten a LOT of ships out of her grasp but she has also caught some TKs AVPS and some other misc ships. I'm a little dissapointed but I tell myself, hey its a huge carrier force, you cannot dodge it every time.
Japs subs sink 2x APs and it hurts!
We run the SAG at Ambon and sneak it up to raid legaspi, but the bad news is that it only gets one AKL
Rangoon sweeps we lose 1
Japs bomb manilla, sing, wenchow, wuchow, Johore Bahrum=, changsha (miss every time)
we bomb wuchow, changsha, singkawang
ASW at PH actually hits
Del atk at Langson holds
we bombard changsha and kill 51
Japs capture madjene
del atk manilla

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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-24-42
Ally subs torp PB
Japs bomb aing, wenchow, manilla, clark, changsha,pingsang
KB raids ambon sinnks a PC,AVP,AG,PG,TK
we bomb changsha, singkawang
we bombard changsha and kill 151
manilla del atk japs lose 1311 we lose 905
Lang son holds off another del atk
Allys do a shock attack to repulse jap landing at Ioilo and rout japs forcing retreat for loss of 300 japs
KB raids ambon. hard to stop KB around ambon, cant do much about it, I see a landing force coming. I have to hope its not strong enough to capture ambon.

Ally subs torp PB
Japs bomb aing, wenchow, manilla, clark, changsha,pingsang
KB raids ambon sinnks a PC,AVP,AG,PG,TK
we bomb changsha, singkawang
we bombard changsha and kill 151
manilla del atk japs lose 1311 we lose 905
Lang son holds off another del atk
Allys do a shock attack to repulse jap landing at Ioilo and rout japs forcing retreat for loss of 300 japs
KB raids ambon. hard to stop KB around ambon, cant do much about it, I see a landing force coming. I have to hope its not strong enough to capture ambon.

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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-25
Japanese have a VERY active turn, landings at manus Is,Ocean, and Baker. Capture Ocean and Baker
Looks like the baker landing is 138 men but still, im not having it.
Jap subs hit a TK
Japs Bomb Clark, manilla, pingsiang,wenchow, wuchow
KB raids Ambon port for little result
KB naval atks sunk 3x DD 1xAD
KB raids Kendari and Ambon

Japanese have a VERY active turn, landings at manus Is,Ocean, and Baker. Capture Ocean and Baker
Looks like the baker landing is 138 men but still, im not having it.
Jap subs hit a TK
Japs Bomb Clark, manilla, pingsiang,wenchow, wuchow
KB raids Ambon port for little result
KB naval atks sunk 3x DD 1xAD
KB raids Kendari and Ambon

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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-25-42 cont
We bomb wuchow and singkawang
Del atk Manilla 1154 japs hit 1116 ally fort still at 1 but manilla garrison badly battered by sustained air atks
Del atk near changsha we hold them off
Lang son holds of del atk but not for long
Allied bombardment of changsha 198 japs hit
Wenchow holds
We bomb wuchow and singkawang
Del atk Manilla 1154 japs hit 1116 ally fort still at 1 but manilla garrison badly battered by sustained air atks
Del atk near changsha we hold them off
Lang son holds of del atk but not for long
Allied bombardment of changsha 198 japs hit
Wenchow holds
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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-26
Japs take emerald isle. and manus
Ally subs hit AKL,PB, AK
Rangoon sweeps 3 oscars destroyed
Japs bomb singapore,wenchow,manilla,changsha,wuchow,johore bahru,balikpapan, pingsiang
We bomb singkawang, changsha,wuchow
Ally CV raid on rabaul sinks DD and AO
KB raids kendarri, and ambon no planes hit at ambon
invasion of kendarri we hold so far, bombard and kill 77
del atk near changsha goes bad for us we lose 1000, langson surprises me and continues to hold
We bombard changsha and kill 164, he bombard changsha and it goes bad for him
Japs take emerald isle. and manus
Ally subs hit AKL,PB, AK
Rangoon sweeps 3 oscars destroyed
Japs bomb singapore,wenchow,manilla,changsha,wuchow,johore bahru,balikpapan, pingsiang
We bomb singkawang, changsha,wuchow
Ally CV raid on rabaul sinks DD and AO
KB raids kendarri, and ambon no planes hit at ambon
invasion of kendarri we hold so far, bombard and kill 77
del atk near changsha goes bad for us we lose 1000, langson surprises me and continues to hold
We bombard changsha and kill 164, he bombard changsha and it goes bad for him
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-27 hot turn
Japs continue landing at Kendarri, land and take nauru island, land at mavado
Jap sub torps an AP
our subs miss
HMS Warspite bombards rabaul and hits like a ton of bricks

Japs continue landing at Kendarri, land and take nauru island, land at mavado
Jap sub torps an AP
our subs miss
HMS Warspite bombards rabaul and hits like a ton of bricks

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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-27 cont..
Soooooo.... notice in the pic above that there are a LOT of aircraft at rabaul waiting for my CV bombers to come and bomb them right? NOPE they refuse to fly. Thanks primadonna carrier pilots(dauntless), seriously I cannot rely on these guys at all. My 2nd carrier group up north at Kavieng is within 7 of naval targets and refuses to fly also!
Devastators do however fly and raid rabaul port and kavieng port
Ally TF bombards singkawang for mod. dmg
Japs bombard kendari light dmg
Japs bomb wenchow, i didnt take notes on other targets for some reason, probably they bombed manilla clark sing too
Rangoon sweep 2 oscars dest.
Langson holds off another atk, Manilla holds a del atk, We bombard at changsha killing 101
KB bombs Kendari
KB bombs ambon

Soooooo.... notice in the pic above that there are a LOT of aircraft at rabaul waiting for my CV bombers to come and bomb them right? NOPE they refuse to fly. Thanks primadonna carrier pilots(dauntless), seriously I cannot rely on these guys at all. My 2nd carrier group up north at Kavieng is within 7 of naval targets and refuses to fly also!
Devastators do however fly and raid rabaul port and kavieng port
Ally TF bombards singkawang for mod. dmg
Japs bombard kendari light dmg
Japs bomb wenchow, i didnt take notes on other targets for some reason, probably they bombed manilla clark sing too
Rangoon sweep 2 oscars dest.
Langson holds off another atk, Manilla holds a del atk, We bombard at changsha killing 101
KB bombs Kendari
KB bombs ambon

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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
2 Questions:
1 - what is a good altitude for a carrier based dive bomber(dauntless) to bomb and airfield? I have them at 10k
2- I had an infantry regiment get gutted when its AP was sunk, but part of it was in an AK. its now at Suva basically with a lot of equipt. and no squads. What can i do? will it get replacements? I assume its basically KO'd for like a 6-12 months
1 - what is a good altitude for a carrier based dive bomber(dauntless) to bomb and airfield? I have them at 10k
2- I had an infantry regiment get gutted when its AP was sunk, but part of it was in an AK. its now at Suva basically with a lot of equipt. and no squads. What can i do? will it get replacements? I assume its basically KO'd for like a 6-12 months
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
DBs are most accurate when in a diving attack. They only do that between 10 and 15k. Otherwise they level bomb or glide bomb. Set your altitude to be just above most flak and in the dive attack range.
Ground units need to be at a major base with lots of supply to gain squads at a reasonable rate. The rate increases if the regiment can sub-divide into battalions. Each bn will draw squads as they become available from production. I think HQs also help fill out the unit, but I am unsure if they increase the fill rate or just enable some replacements with less supply available.
Ground units need to be at a major base with lots of supply to gain squads at a reasonable rate. The rate increases if the regiment can sub-divide into battalions. Each bn will draw squads as they become available from production. I think HQs also help fill out the unit, but I am unsure if they increase the fill rate or just enable some replacements with less supply available.
No matter how bad a situation is, you can always make it worse. - Chris Hadfield : An Astronaut's Guide To Life On Earth
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
BB thx for info!
1-28
Japs bomb changsha wuchow johore bahru, pingsian, manilla
we bomb wuchow, changsha
KB raids ambon kendarri
We raid rabaul AF with 1 CV severe weather hampers raid
we raid kavieng port hit 2xDD's
Langson holds off del atk
Del atk seizes Kendari much to my surprise because i was fort 2 congrats to the SNLF
we bombard changsha hitting 111 japs
1-28
Japs bomb changsha wuchow johore bahru, pingsian, manilla
we bomb wuchow, changsha
KB raids ambon kendarri
We raid rabaul AF with 1 CV severe weather hampers raid
we raid kavieng port hit 2xDD's
Langson holds off del atk
Del atk seizes Kendari much to my surprise because i was fort 2 congrats to the SNLF
we bombard changsha hitting 111 japs
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-29
we get 6 hits on a jap sub at east coast, jap subs torp a TK which lives
Jap SAG sinks a PC near ambon
SAG battle at Kendari

we get 6 hits on a jap sub at east coast, jap subs torp a TK which lives
Jap SAG sinks a PC near ambon
SAG battle at Kendari

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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-29 continued
Japanese CA Maya SAG seeks revenge on SAG and shootout batters 2 x Ally DD's but they get away
Japs bomb manilla and hit like 300 in one turn,singapore, wuchow,wenchow,balikpapan, and Johore Bahru
Ally CVs raid rabaul, lots of planes but little results possibly due to bad weather
allies bomb wuchow, kendari we hit a AP and b-17s that hit 117 on ground
KB raids ambon dmg 12 planes
We bombard changsha for 200ish
Langson holds off a del. atk
Japanese CA Maya SAG seeks revenge on SAG and shootout batters 2 x Ally DD's but they get away
Japs bomb manilla and hit like 300 in one turn,singapore, wuchow,wenchow,balikpapan, and Johore Bahru
Ally CVs raid rabaul, lots of planes but little results possibly due to bad weather
allies bomb wuchow, kendari we hit a AP and b-17s that hit 117 on ground
KB raids ambon dmg 12 planes
We bombard changsha for 200ish
Langson holds off a del. atk
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-30
KB heading SE from manado, looping down to Rabaul looking angry
2nd landing at Manado
Japs conduct a landing at wenchow, unexpected thats for sure
ally ASW hits 2 subs, shock ensues. dutch sub torps an AK
Japs bomb sing, manilla, wenchow, johore bahru, changsha,balikpapan
Allied carriers hit Rabaul again
we bomb wenchow and changsha for modest success
Langson holds off anther del. atk but not for long
changsha bombard we only get 88 hits
Manilla FALLLLLLllllllllSSSSssssssszzzzzz but we conduct a mostly orderly retreat to clark, and only 1 unit surrenders. these wounded units will be pulled back to bataan and then rested. clark fort is 3(50%)

KB heading SE from manado, looping down to Rabaul looking angry
2nd landing at Manado
Japs conduct a landing at wenchow, unexpected thats for sure
ally ASW hits 2 subs, shock ensues. dutch sub torps an AK
Japs bomb sing, manilla, wenchow, johore bahru, changsha,balikpapan
Allied carriers hit Rabaul again
we bomb wenchow and changsha for modest success
Langson holds off anther del. atk but not for long
changsha bombard we only get 88 hits
Manilla FALLLLLLllllllllSSSSssssssszzzzzz but we conduct a mostly orderly retreat to clark, and only 1 unit surrenders. these wounded units will be pulled back to bataan and then rested. clark fort is 3(50%)

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RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
Notes:
So why arent my dive bombers at ambon causing trouble? well i actually read the manual(a little) and airfield dmg is too high
KB has decided that this situation at Rabaul is intolerable(next turn its going to get a lot worse). KB is heading to rabaul with a vengeance, which seems good because now I can do a lot more in the dutch area, i love trying to strip oil and fuel out of that region and trying to thwart his landings without KB being a JERK. BUT this opens a whole new can of worms, KB is a hot potato and now that hot potato is landing in sopac. in sopac I have been enjoying running my transports around with no opposition except subs. now I got too worry about KB. whats she gonna do?
Rabaul airfield damage = 100 after next turn
So why arent my dive bombers at ambon causing trouble? well i actually read the manual(a little) and airfield dmg is too high
KB has decided that this situation at Rabaul is intolerable(next turn its going to get a lot worse). KB is heading to rabaul with a vengeance, which seems good because now I can do a lot more in the dutch area, i love trying to strip oil and fuel out of that region and trying to thwart his landings without KB being a JERK. BUT this opens a whole new can of worms, KB is a hot potato and now that hot potato is landing in sopac. in sopac I have been enjoying running my transports around with no opposition except subs. now I got too worry about KB. whats she gonna do?
Rabaul airfield damage = 100 after next turn
RE: Hammer of the Gods Godochaos(A) vs Da Hammer(J) NO DA HAMMER PLS
1-31
2 SAG fights happened at Kendarri, we got the worst of it and 3x DDs bite the dust after the battles, here is a screen of the 1st battle

2 SAG fights happened at Kendarri, we got the worst of it and 3x DDs bite the dust after the battles, here is a screen of the 1st battle

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