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[IronFist00]

I have been posting on BGG recently, especially in the second edition forums. I agree re: helping the developers. Based on some email conversations I've had with one of them, they are getting them. I believe they have to wait until their break is over next week to begin working on what we've been finding.

I own Storms of Steel, Price of Honour, and the Second Edition of Awakening the Bear. I think the PC game compares very favorable. It's an excellent adaptation and I love that Western Civilization Software has gone the extra mile, sometimes at their cost, to implement the Classic APs and add the hi-res, big board maps. I think they are well on their way to having a truly great product since the PC version would be two games in one, i.e. the best of both worlds. I just hope it sold well over the Holidays with the 25% sale, and the upcoming Storms of Steel expansion sells well enough, to justify their continued support and new products. Oh my favorite thing with the PC game is it handling LOS and elevation - that is just great.

When you say version 2 of the rules, do you mean the rules from the Second Edition of Awakening the Bear? If not, those are the ones you should use as they are the latest and contain all the errata from previous versions mixed in so it's in the actual ruleset. I see the different version as follows:

First Edition rules = first edition AtB
Second Edition rules = Storms of Steel
Third Edition rules = second edition of AtB

The Price of Honour rules were different because the game was an expansion and the purpose of the rules was to put them all together in a non-programmed format, at the request of players. Hence why I don't consider them a separate version but a codified version of the Storm of Steel rules.

Eric [Babe] has said on many occasions the the PC game doesn't adhere to any single version because of the length of the PC game's development. However to test rules, you need to pick a version so I use the SE AtB and let him decide what to do with the reports.

I have played online a number of times. It's very fun and more challenging than playing against the AI. It goes pretty fast since both players are live (no PBEM) and are engaged because of the nature of the system. It's not as much fun as playing someone face-to-face with the board game, but then what PC game really is?

I do prefer the Classic AP rules because of reasons I've stated before but I will just as easily play Persistent APs if someone prefers. I do come from the board game so I'm biased to its implementation of the rules.

I'm just looking forward to when the PC game has down all the Classic AP & Persistent AP modes and we can just concentrate on playing it. [8D]

[tsnouffer]

Hi guys. I'm helping Uwe with the AtB tournament. I've been following your thread closely. It sounds like, and I noticed, how lacking the group rules under 1.14 of the PC game were so I've been playing the 1.15 beta. Any idea if what you've noted before (using the screenshots above) is the extent of the problems with group actions under 1.15?

Cheers!

[IronFist00]

Hi tsnouffer, thanks for helping organize the tournament. There are still a few bugs associated with Group Actions in v1.15 beta but it is much better than in v1.14; I mean there are significantly less issues. Between the threads on this forum and some reports I've emailed directly to Eric, he is aware of them.

If you are asking which version might be better for the tournament, since Group Actions are a hallmark of good CoH play, I think v1.15 is your best bet. My opinion only, of course.

[tsnouffer]

Thanks for the feedback. I hear ya. I heard from Uwe and Eric too. We're going to run with the 1.15 beta. It is stable and seems to have fewer issues than 1.14 over all.

Cheers!

[fentum]

I am a fresh faced new player, but I fancy a crack at this.

OK, new but not so fresh faced.

How do I sign up?

[jcrohio]

ORIGINAL: VR_IronFist

I have been posting on BGG recently, especially in the second edition forums. I agree re: helping the developers. Based on some email conversations I've had with one of them, they are getting them. I believe they have to wait until their break is over next week to begin working on what we've been finding.

I own Storms of Steel, Price of Honour, and the Second Edition of Awakening the Bear. I think the PC game compares very favorable. It's an excellent adaptation and I love that Western Civilization Software has gone the extra mile, sometimes at their cost, to implement the Classic APs and add the hi-res, big board maps. I think they are well on their way to having a truly great product since the PC version would be two games in one, i.e. the best of both worlds. I just hope it sold well over the Holidays with the 25% sale, and the upcoming Storms of Steel expansion sells well enough, to justify their continued support and new products. Oh my favorite thing with the PC game is it handling LOS and elevation - that is just great.

I agree - I think they have done a great job with this - I stated earlier that though there are some things mising I am impressed with all they have managed to get into the computer game - I am also impressed the way they have responded to our requests and problems

When you say version 2 of the rules, do you mean the rules from the Second Edition of Awakening the Bear? If not, those are the ones you should use as they are the latest and contain all the errata from previous versions mixed in so it's in the actual ruleset. I see the different version as follows:

First Edition rules = first edition AtB
Second Edition rules = Storms of Steel
Third Edition rules = second edition of AtB

I am looking at the Third Edition rules = second edition of AtB - these are what I downloaded and then reading through them as I play - I am also compiling a list of things different between the two

The Price of Honour rules were different because the game was an expansion and the purpose of the rules was to put them all together in a non-programmed format, at the request of players. Hence why I don't consider them a separate version but a codified version of the Storm of Steel rules.

Eric [Babe] has said on many occasions the the PC game doesn't adhere to any single version because of the length of the PC game's development. However to test rules, you need to pick a version so I use the SE AtB and let him decide what to do with the reports.

See above - I also

I have played online a number of times. It's very fun and more challenging than playing against the AI. It goes pretty fast since both players are live (no PBEM) and are engaged because of the nature of the system. It's not as much fun as playing someone face-to-face with the board game, but then what PC game really is?

I do prefer the Classic AP rules because of reasons I've stated before but I will just as easily play Persistent APs if someone prefers. I do come from the board game so I'm biased to its implementation of the rules.

In my first go round with this game back in the summer I only played Persistent - then my job kicked in (I only work 6 months of the year but when I work I have no free time) and that was kinda the end of it - Picked it back up before Christmas and have really spent a lot of time with it - started playing Classic and agree with you - Like it better

I'm just looking forward to when the PC game has down all the Classic AP & Persistent AP modes and we can just concentrate on playing it. [8D]

[tsnouffer]

ORIGINAL: fentum

I am a fresh faced new player, but I fancy a crack at this.

OK, new but not so fresh faced.

How do I sign up?

How do you sign up for the tournament?

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