This game or Commander Great War? Please help me decide

Close Combat: Panthers in the Fog is the first new release (not a re-make of a previous games) in years in the critically acclaimed Close Combat series. It details the desperate German counter-attack at Mortain, the last chance of the Wehrmacht to stave off defeat in Normandy. Can you match the tenacity of the American defenders of Hill 314? Or can you succeed where the Panzers failed, driving through to the sea and changing history? Improved 32-bit graphics and the ability to control more squads than ever bring the Close Combat engine to a new level.
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I am tossed between these two games. For those of you who have played both please let me know which had better AI which is more fun. I know it is set in different times but I am looking for a great grand strategy or RTS war game from either WW1 or WW2 and I have my eyes on both of these games. Most importantly which offers more realism? Thanks...
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If you want to play against AI, I would suggest to get this game. The AI in Commander the Great War lacks depth and usually surrenders about 1/3 into the game. But if you like to play multiplayer games, then I would suggest Commander. It really is a different game, when played against a human opponent.

But both are great games, so pick which one seems more interesting! [:D]
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If do you like play in MP (h2h), now, dónt buy CC PidF, because the lobby works bad. It´s impossible to play (game frozen, slowness, etc)
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not true for everybody... I have played several games without problems. But there are still problems for a few players

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If do you like play in MP (h2h), now, dónt buy CC PidF, because the lobby works bad. It´s impossible to play (game frozen, slowness, etc)
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not true for everybody... I have played several games without problems. But there are still problems for a few players

A few players only?, Sure?. I think there are a lot... and the lobby is empty of players...
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yes it is true I don't know the statistics and there is not a lot of people in the lobby. I must be lucky for once that I can play. I'm sorry for you that you are not able to play it as it is very entertaining. I hope that the next patch will resolve your problems... so I can beat you! ;)
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If you like operational level warfare with some strategic elements I'd recommend that you take a look at Advanced Tactics Gold. It's random game generator is outstanding and provides lots of replayability.
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If you want to play against AI, I would suggest to get this game. The AI in Commander the Great War lacks depth and usually surrenders about 1/3 into the game. But if you like to play multiplayer games, then I would suggest Commander. It really is a different game, when played against a human opponent.

But both are great games, so pick which one seems more interesting! [:D]

I am trying to decide on this as well. In the other forum (Commander), it seems some people are getting a good challenge from the AI, and my general impression from reading the forum is that the AI is fairly good. Don't know what to think really. I wish there was a video on youtube of the gameplay.
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Of course, at your orders, but if they don´t repair the lobby or restablish the old ip conecciont, it coul be impossible for me.
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... I wish there was a video on youtube of the gameplay.


Yeah, I'm waiting for someone to do a lets play or something before I'm ready to throw down the cash.
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There are a goodly number of PitF gameplay videos on Youtube when I search. I think he was asking about CTGW gameplay vids, which don't seem to exist - perhaps because of its different gameplay pace.

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There are a goodly number of PitF gameplay videos on Youtube when I search. I think he was asking about CTGW gameplay vids, which don't seem to exist - perhaps because of its different gameplay pace.

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Yep, we are talking CTGW. I think the newness is the reason. I've dropped CTGW from consideration as I don't think CTGW is quite ready yet from what I read in the forum. So I will pick up CC:TLD or PitF.
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I have never had much of a challenge from the AI in any CC version. Its common for the AI to launch piecemeal attacks, deploy AT guns behind houses, make super bonehead moves on the strategic level. Very simple to surround and cut off most AI battlegroups. Theres been many forum topics on how to make the AI better and those conversations revolve around crippling yourself to give the AI more of a chance. Most of the challenges I get from the AI are when I have advanced so far and my troops become spread out, it becomes a bit more difficult to stop some of thier movements.
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[:D]

That's because mooxe has never played CCMT against the AI. Here the AI might hide indefinately and ambush your teams every time you try to move them 40 meters, basically shooting one guy at a time. And actually, in many instances, the attacker always needs more men or better morale, experience, and weapons, even when fighting against the AI. Its really doesn't take a robust computer program to get an AI that never moves, always hides, and does nothing but try to ambush your teams.
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ORIGINAL: Qwixt

ORIGINAL: PipFromSlitherine

There are a goodly number of PitF gameplay videos on Youtube when I search. I think he was asking about CTGW gameplay vids, which don't seem to exist - perhaps because of its different gameplay pace.

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Yep, we are talking CTGW. I think the newness is the reason. I've dropped CTGW from consideration as I don't think CTGW is quite ready yet from what I read in the forum. So I will pick up CC:TLD or PitF.


Oops, yeah, me too. Was talking about Commander. There is a duplicate thread on the Commander forums and I thought I was replying to that.

I'm interested in this one too, but will wait until the pathfinding problems have had a good looking at.


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I'm interested in this one too, but will wait until the pathfinding problems have had a good looking at.




Done, my boxed version has just arrived, DLed and installed the lastest patch and pathfinding is working well
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