Rationally discussing the price of games

[heyhellowhatsnew]

ORIGINAL: Rtwfreak

also the average age of gamers is 30

That's subjective at most since most people don't give their age when buying games most especially children 12-13 since it's usually their parents buying those games for them.

Not to forget a lot of people put bogus information when registering games online especially children.

I'm sure they sold a lot of units for a larger profit based on full retail value.

Show me stats and I'll believe you otherwise it's just speculation.

Paradox wasn't a major publisher until they got on steam

Wrong again, they were major when they had GAMERSGATE. You should get your facts from facts and not just make things up.

There have been hundreds of times where indies were released at full price and were top 5 sales.

Please show me this list of 100 titles? Also top rated sales where? Steam? Gamersgate? Also, some of those top sales were because the games were under $10.

The one thing you seem to forget and are leaving out Matrixgames is not a Highly Advertised publisher. You don't see their banners or names spread over many other wargaming sites like you do a Paradox or a Creative Assemby or a Sega, etc. etc. Matrixgames gains most of their new members by "word of mouth" and I don't see a lot of that going around except at their old partner site the Wargamer. It's not defeatest it's just plain ole facts.

Wait a second, you put up zero facts, zero links to back up your claims and ask me to produce more? and call your statement plain ole facts?

[8|] Really, how hard is to google to back up your "plain ole facts"

Here are some more actual facts backed by links http://www.coldbeamgames.com/3/post/201 ... -2012.html

Average Gamer is 30, once again with something called Statistics! http://www.vg247.com/2012/08/01/esa-ave ... nage-boys/

http://www.theesa.com/facts/pdfs/ESA_EF_2012.pdf

No offense, but i'm tired of playing fetch. When you start producing your own research-based evidence to back up your facts, then we can talk again.

Other than that, like I've said time and time again. I want to help Matrix, and stated it in my last post. It's a new age of digital gaming.

[Rtwfreak]

Links are not facts. Information on those links aren't PROVEN facts. So they are nothing more than the last persons "but they said it was so!" lol They said, he said, she said. lol Like that commercial on tv now where the girl says I found it on the internet and everything is the truth on the internet and the guy asks her how she knows and she goes it "says so on the internet" lmao. Don't believe half of what you read and ignore the other half on the internet and you'll do just fine.

[heyhellowhatsnew]

What a weak response. Even to statistical data and word of mouth directly from the developers themselves. Whatever you say, man. Guess this conversation between us is over.

[doomtrader]

There are many developers hanging around (including myself), so I'm pretty sure that all of you could create a thread called ask developer and post your questions there.
Of course I must warn you that our agreements with publishers and distributors do not allow us to say anything about sales numbers.

[SapperAstro_MatrixForum]

Wrong again, they were major when they had GAMERSGATE. You should get your facts from facts and not just make things up.

Exactly.

Just as an aside, and everyone will no doubt think it is just another warry...I was actually the person that planted the first seed of gamersgate. Once upon a time, when the head dev there, Johannes, was having a hissy fit over publishers, fees, and so on, I asked him why he didn't just sell their games online, direct to the customer? The rest is history...

Of course, I never saw a cent for my great idea...[:@][;)]