ZA RODINU! (Kamil vs Mike) March 1943!

[Mike29]

T56. 09.07.1942. General situation. Southern front reached Dnepr! German forcs left Voroshilovgrad. We are 40 miles from Smolensk, positional war for every hex here. Orel is still ours, 40+ German units cut off near Orel, Bryansk is out of danger. Heavy battles in Narva defile - soon we will be in Estonia again.

[Mike29]

T56. Another screen of our operation near Orel.

We recognize this moment as critical in 42 campaign so far. German Task Force beginning to have troubles with supply after three weeks of ongoing battles far from rail-road now are cut-off. Soviet forces are supplied exellently, they disposed fine both for defense or offense. We make concentric attacks from all sides using many infantry corps. Our tank corps subordinated to tank armies with best commanders like Rotmistrov. We feel German army can not continue strategic offense anymore.

[morvael]

Unimaginable success awaits you. How did the Axis player allowed this? Why so poor flank protection?

[Wuffer]

ORIGINAL: Mike29

... it is always pleasure to feel that someone read this.

[&o]

astonishing offensive_s_ (with emphasis on the plural)

[Mike29]

T57. 16.07.1942. Fourth week of Great Battle of Orel. German closed Orel pocket by three lines but we were prepared well - our elite units of 4 fronts attacked panzers on nude steppe, and critical moment - 1st tank army of Rotmistrov opened the pocket near village Naryshkino. This was the greatest tank battle in this game so far - more than 1000 tanks in one hex.

So we won another week of time. This was really black day of Panzerwaffe. German lost 220 tanks and 47 000 men. Only 1300 tanks remain.

[KamilS]

I have to confess, that when I opened save and noticed that ring of encirclement was broken I suffered mental breakdown [:@]

I am grateful to my opponent that he managed to survive my moaning and encouraged me to continue playing. [&o]

[KamilS]

morvael

Unimaginable success awaits you. How did the Axis player allowed this? Why so poor flank protection?

There is no flank protection. [;)]

[Peltonx]

Wow, its only July 1942 and your in trouble.

GHC can not do as good as historical during 1941 or they fase disaster in mid-1942 and Berlin falling in early 1944.

The only option is to pull back in November 1941 as I did vs MT. It is the only option if 1941 GHC summer goes poorly. You can atleast get into late 44 or early 45.

I am guessing you will run up the white flag long before that.

[KamilS]

T58

Distribution of my forces measured in CV at the beginning of the turn. Percentage of overall strength in specified area - German/Allied - followed by absolute CV strength.


It shows scale of my failure


(13,5%/ 12,5%) North - 137 (Ger) - 137 - (Estonia to Vielkie Luki)

(11,7%/ 10.9%) North/Centre - 119 (Ger) - 119 - (Smolensk land bridge to Bryansk)

(59,0% / 56,4%) Orel area - 596 (Ger), 17 (Hun), 1 (Rom) - 614 -

(10,5%/ 11,7%) Center/South - 107 (Ger), 10 (Rom), 8 (Hun), 3 (Ita) - 128 - (Kursk to Charkov)

(4,3% / 5,6%) South - 44 (Ger), 8 (Rom), 6 (Hun), 3 (Slk), 1 (Ita) - 62 - (Stalino area)

(0,7% / 2,6%) Crimea - 8 (Ger), 19 (Rom), 2 (Ita) - 29 -

[Flaviusx]

Kamil, this is pretty much a dead schwerpunkt. You need to hit him somewhere else, where his reserves are not -- this is the strongest part of his front now that he's dogpiled it with all his reserves,. You can redeploy faster than the Soviet can. Trading body blows with the Red Army is a mug's game.

Forget about pocketing stuff, too, just rout everything out near Orel and clear a path to move ZOC free in the area. Pull out the panzers. Then make him guess where the panzers are going next now that he's committed in full to this particular place.

[smokindave34]

Where did you get those slick icons for your leaders? Very nice.

[Mike29]

ORIGINAL: smokindave34

Where did you get those slick icons for your leaders? Very nice.

I just found pictures of Soviet combat orders and awarded them. Order of Red Banner for Tolbukhin and Order of Lenin for Vasilevsky and Rotmistrov.

Awarding could be interesting feature in the game. Another feachure is to add somelike Notes-window to any unit or general. This could be very useful - as for me I would log any interesting event to post them in AAR.

If developers can see this - please add morale filter to Air Groups window!

[vlcz]

If developers can see this - please add morale filter to Air Groups window!

+1!

[KamilS]

Flaviusx

Kamil, this is pretty much a dead schwerpunkt. You need to hit him somewhere else, where his reserves are not -- this is the strongest part of his front now that he's dogpiled it with all his reserves,. You can redeploy faster than the Soviet can. Trading body blows with the Red Army is a mug's game.

Forget about pocketing stuff, too, just rout everything out near Orel and clear a path to move ZOC free in the area. Pull out the panzers. Then make him guess where the panzers are going next now that he's committed in full to this particular place.

I fear that you are right. I wasted time and resources to such extend, that undertaking decisive offensive might not be possible any more.

[Mike29]

T58. 23.07.1942. North.

[Mike29]

T58. 23.07.1942. North-West. Pavlov still alive and operational.

[Mike29]

T58. 23.07.1942. Battle of Orel. Fifth week. This tme Kamil is Master of the ring. We were unable to open it although we attacked by all perimeter. Inner lines were very strong + I made some mistakes during previous turn with disposition of my units around his Task Force.

Only two divisions from initial pocket could escape during the battle. So, 13 infantry divisions and one tank corps is a price for one and half month and more than 600 German tanks and about 150 000 men. We recognize this battle as tactical victory of GHC but strategic victiry of SHC. Germans could not reach his strategic objectives, "Bryansk bridgehead" is still ours and defended heavily. Soon not only Orel but all Holy Russian land will be free from German invaders!

[Mike29]

T58. 23.07.1942. Voronezh area. I expected more from attacks of Voronezh front.

[Mike29]

T58. 23.07.1942. South.

[Mike29]

T58. 23.07.1942. Losses.