PBEM World Cup 2003

[rbrunsman]

Originally posted by Gary Tatro
I am in I will take USSR.

From what V2 tells me, I can only say, "OH, SHI...!!:eek: "

I will be a wild card and take the opposite of whatever my doomed opponent takes. You are all grist for the mill as far as I'm concerned.

[RobW]

Originally posted by rbrunsman
RobW, if you play the Brits, you will be a first round casualty!:D

yeah but at least I will die with a stiff upper lip and a cup of tea in my hand!!! But am certain - will take Brits - who knows what will happen - my unusual tactics and complete lack of common sense with confuse baffle and disorientate my opponent!!!!

[mlomax]

Its nice to know that I'm not the only one in this world with unusual tactics.

[dodger]

I'm game. I vote for SPH2H, in which case I can use the Finland. If we're using SPWAW, I'll go for Germany.

-Jani

[RobW]

How about making it more complex - a league system (or number of leagues) that way it is easier for inexperienced players like myself to find opponents during the tournament (ie they are already decided). Depending on the number of people wanting to play you could have multiple leagues - top 2 from each go through after ecah person in the league plays the other once (or twice) into a knock out phase.

[dodger]

What I am most worried about is the fact that both SPH2H and SPWAW report battles as draws very easily. So the winner should be decided on score, even if the margin isn't large enough for the game to declare one person the winner.

[rbrunsman]

Originally posted by dodger
What I am most worried about is the fact that both SPH2H and SPWAW report battles as draws very easily. So the winner should be decided on score, even if the margin isn't large enough for the game to declare one person the winner.

It's decided by points. Hardly anyone cares what the computer tells you about the battle. You almost always get draws anyway when 2 good players go at it. But, one player usually knows when he got his *** kicked even though the computer says it was a Draw.

[dodger]

Any idea when it's gonna start?

[red]

Saturday is the deadline for signing up. Once we finilize the list the match ups will be posted same day. Also we need to finilize the rules. I like the idea of limiting the time for players to get in touch with each other and time limit on finishing the game to keep it rolling along. Other than that things like game version, setup etc I'd like to leave up to the players to agree on.

[Shiner]

I would like to play in the World Cup. Please sign me up to play as the Soviets.

Please send any info to:

senormario@hotmail.com

Thanks!!

Shiner

[Buzzard45]

Originally posted by RobW
How about making it more complex - a league system (or number of leagues) that way it is easier for inexperienced players like myself to find opponents during the tournament (ie they are already decided). Depending on the number of people wanting to play you could have multiple leagues - top 2 from each go through after ecah person in the league plays the other once (or twice) into a knock out phase.

It could be set up like a curling bonspiel. A-event losers go to B-event. B-event loser go to C-event. C-event losers go to D-event. D-event losers are out. Everyone starts in A. Finals are A against C B against D winners play off. This way all players are envolved for the longest time and have a chance. Only exception is that A event winner needs a double knock-out.

I like Rbrunman's idea that all player change countries. Opponents can be set by round number. i.e. Round 1- Everyone plays German vs Soviets. Player one picks date and points, player two picks side.(most even way, like kids cutting a choclate bar- cutter doesn't choose). That way all games have even chance and skill level is across the board not just on as one nation. You will be surprised at how much you will learn by playing your traditional opponent. We all know that "what and when" you pick often decides the battle before it begins. And the Brits ain't so bad. I win with them all the time. OKay not ALL the time but lots.

RED: If you need a volunteer to keep score with this type of layout. I'll be there.

Please count me in on the tourney.

[VikingNo2]

I would like to enter, the switching of countries is a good plan in my opinion. I liked the Major and minor country blind draw of last time, also the there should be a set point range like from 4k-7k (just an example).

H2H and 7.1 shouldn't be mixed in my opinion either, just have a tourney in both.

[BlueLavender]

can me as a beginner sign up also ?

90% chance, I'll be the first round casualties , but I do want to try..

if allowed, then I vouch for H2H, and I go for... Japan (well, since nobody has yet signed up with Japan as country of choice :p)

BL

[Hades]

Am I too late to sign up.
I just got SPWAW downloaded. 8 days

[red]

The idea of the previous champoinship was to keep overhead low and don't get confused. I don't mind somebody managing a more complex setup but then you'd have to be available to do so throughout the tournment. We can introduce the A-B-C-D system if we agree on game completion time, otherwise it may become too dragged out. Also we could try a tryouts/playoff system. You get 1 point for a win in tryouts. Play 5 short games so your max points is 5. Whoever has 3 points (>50%) advances to playoffs.

[Buzzard45]

Originally posted by rbrunsman
I'm in.

Suggestions:

Depending on how many people sign up, we should have strict time tables for finishing the games. e.g. If you have 30 days to finish a game, then on the last day you have to end the game and the one with the highest point total moves on.

Also, if there is no contact heard for 2 to 3 days then a warning post should be put in the DAR forum and then there is 24 hours to respond with a turn or an "I'll get the turn to you in xx.." or you forfeit. The reason for this is that the WC Champion should be someone who is reliable, not only a great player (V2 is a great example in this regard and is also deserving of the title for this fact).

These kind of simple rules can put us on a schedule so we can know that on December 15th, 2003 we will have a winner (or whatever date we choose).

Should we allow any sized games so long as the players know they are limited in time or should we make everyone play the same poiints (e.g. 5000).

I also think, this time we should make people play different countries. I mean, you may be awesome playing the Russians, but if you suck at everything else, are you really the best player? I think you should be prohibited from playing the same country twice in a row.

Just my thoughts...

30 days sounds about right. Judge your points accordingly.

With 16 players and second knock-out for the winner of A event, means 6 play periods. 8 games played simultanious. Up to 32 players means only an addition play period. (so 7 months) With a grace day or two its still done by xmas. Winner based on points. Players can exchange passwords to verify damage points. Forfeits for non-play or non-response. I suggest month ends as easy to remember stop dates. First period gets 5 weeks if we start this weekend.

VikingNo2 "I would like to enter, the switching of countries is a good plan in my opinion. I liked the Major and minor country blind draw of last time, also the there should be a set point range like from 4k-7k (just an example)."

How did the blind draw work? Or do you think that a mirrored format(reversed sides played at the same time) of pre-determined countries would make sense? H2H or 7.1? not both.

[sandman20]

How many players are actually needed?
If I counted it right, there's 16 players in now.

rbrunsman
AngryDeemon1
Rokondo
sandman20
CPT Shoe
M4 Jess
Brutto-Bob
RobW
mlomax
3/2 ACR
Gary Tatro
dodger
Shiner
VikingNo2
Hades
BlueLavender

Sorry, if I didn't notice someone...

[Ironfist]

I would like a second shot at the World Games, Having my tanks shot out from under me the last tourney. I would like a second chance. I prefer Germans or Finland as a minor country. Either spwaw or H2H is fine with me. I will say that I wont play as Germany past 1944 and No air units this time around.

[Scharfschütze]

I´m in!

Of, course, I´ll stick to Germany. LEt´s hope I won´t encounter too many per-turn VH´s in combination with M4 105´s and ´zookas this time...

[Belisarius]

I think I'm compelled to enter this contest, since I didn't the last time. Hey, I must try at least.

What about the organization? I guess an open tournament is easier to handle, but then again, league play might prove more interesting. Let's say that the top 10 seeded players (based on WC '02 results) won't get into play until the first round of games is settled?

Another thing - standardized games? E.g.

20 turns
meeting engagements
-41: 4000p
-43: 6000p
-45: 8000p

10% arty, 5% OBA ?? (in any case no more that 5% OBA - arty does not make one great :p )


I'm in. Germans, ofcourse, 2nd pick would be Finns