Is Football a Dying Sport?

[rodney727]

Truth is Americans feel about football as the world feels about soccer. It's a matter of pride. If they replaced football with soccer it would be the end of rivals as we know it. If Minnesota beat Iowa in soccer I could care less. But by god if they beat us in football it's another matter in itself .

ORIGINAL: parusski

ORIGINAL: rogo727

Well some years ago and I mean many years ago...Theador Roosevelt said he would outlaw college football if it didn't clean itself up. That's how the NCAA came about. Look up Minnesota vrs Iowa state I think three people were killed during that game. The helmets they have now are outstanding.

ORIGINAL: parusski




You know rogo, this got started when the President, for some strange reason, decided to speak about the issue. A President has no business delving into almost everything that pops up. He stuck his nose in a local police issue a few years ago, again unnecessary and unwanted.

I got a concussion in 2005 when I tripped in our vets parking lot. I tripped over my own feet, but the vet was freaked out that I would sue them. I did not, because I believe in personal responsibility. So if people choose to play football, I can't see how they don't know they might get drain bamage.

I forgot about that. But I still do not think ANY President needs to be jumping into things like this. It is not his job. But bigger than that is the fact that some people really seem to want to do away with anything even slightly dangerous. It makes me wonder what planet they are from.

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: rogo727

Truth is Americans feel about football as the world feels about soccer. It's a matter of pride. If they replaced football with soccer it would be the end of rivals as we know it. If Minnesota beat Iowa in soccer I could care less. But by god if they beat us in football it's another matter in itself .

ORIGINAL: parusski

ORIGINAL: rogo727

Well some years ago and I mean many years ago...Theador Roosevelt said he would outlaw college football if it didn't clean itself up. That's how the NCAA came about. Look up Minnesota vrs Iowa state I think three people were killed during that game. The helmets they have now are outstanding.

I forgot about that. But I still do not think ANY President needs to be jumping into things like this. It is not his job. But bigger than that is the fact that some people really seem to want to do away with anything even slightly dangerous. It makes me wonder what planet they are from.

Dear God you are a heretic for even suggesting that REAL FOOTBALL(American style) be replaced by a bunch of sissies prancing around on grass tossing their long, flowing hair(and salads) while trying to kick a stupid round ball...uh, where was I. Oh, NEVER.

[pzgndr]

ORIGINAL: parusski

This entire silly debate is being fueled by brain-dead politicians.

In sports, there is a risk of brain damage.

In politics, there is a requirement for brain damage. [:D]

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: pzgndr

ORIGINAL: parusski

This entire silly debate is being fueled by brain-dead politicians.

In sports, there is a risk of brain damage.

In politics, there is a requirement for brain damage. [:D]

Spoken like a true thinker. [&o]

[Jeffrey H.]

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

Just read this article which I found very thought provoking and frankly alarming. I had no idea brain damage was so pervasive in the sport. I'm hoping my grandchildren will not be encouraged (or even allowed) to play football.

Football's Death Spiral

What do you guys think?

We need helmet control for the NFL, it's the helmets which cause the damage to the head. Low capacity helmets and elimination of assualt helmets would make the world such a better place.

But really, football as an organized sport is essentially a displacement of the aggressive tendencies of mankind into less damaging and costly activities for society as a whole. Nerfing the game will result in the aggression being played out in other ways.

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: Jeffrey H.

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

Just read this article which I found very thought provoking and frankly alarming. I had no idea brain damage was so pervasive in the sport. I'm hoping my grandchildren will not be encouraged (or even allowed) to play football.

Football's Death Spiral

What do you guys think?

We need helmet control for the NFL, it's the helmets which cause the damage to the head. Low capacity helmets and elimination of assualt helmets would make the world such a better place.

But really, football as an organized sport is essentially a displacement of the aggressive tendencies of mankind into less damaging and costly activities for society as a whole. Nerfing the game will result in the aggression being played out in other ways.

I was thinking the same things. President Obama should issue an executive order banning assault helmets. WOW, problem solved.[;)]

[Gilmer]

I just find it very hard to believe that there is this magnifying glass on football when you have several sports where the objective is to beat the opponent senseless. Boxing, MMA, UFC...

I'm not wilting daisy or whatever they call it. I participated in an amateur boxing club. Two of the guys on in my club went on to win titles in amateur boxing - one in the bantam weight and one in welterweight.

Hell, I loved watching boxing as a kid and still like watching a good boxing match, but about 80% of the punches in pro boxing go straight to the head. You would think they'd be more worried about that.

[rodney727]

Mma. If you get knocked out it is treated as a concision . You cannot compete for 90 days. Like I said my daughter loves soccer but make no mistake it is a violet sport . No head gear it is very easy for a head injury. This last Saturday two girls were knocked out by running into each other. In volleyball this last summer two girls got a concussion from spiked balls to the head. Even in softball you are not safe. Both my kids are very active in sports. In fact the only sport I can think of is swim team where I can go and watch and not think of a serious injury. The one sport I fear the most is wrestling in which my son has competed in since 2nd grade.. He loves that and football. Can you tell your kids not to compete ? Both my kids are building life skills that they need to be a success in life.

ORIGINAL: H Gilmer

I just find it very hard to believe that there is this magnifying glass on football when you have several sports where the objective is to beat the opponent senseless. Boxing, MMA, UFC...

I'm not wilting daisy or whatever they call it. I participated in an amateur boxing club. Two of the guys on in my club went on to win titles in amateur boxing - one in the bantam weight and one in welterweight.

Hell, I loved watching boxing as a kid and still like watching a good boxing match, but about 80% of the punches in pro boxing go straight to the head. You would think they'd be more worried about that.

[rodney727]

+100

ORIGINAL: Sarge

ORIGINAL: rhondabrwn

Just read this article which I found very thought provoking and frankly alarming. I had no idea brain damage was so pervasive in the sport. I'm hoping my grandchildren will not be encouraged (or even allowed) to play football.
What do you guys think?

So lets get this straight ,
your “alarmed” that football can lead to injury, but encouraged with the thought of women being allowed in combat...

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: H Gilmer

I just find it very hard to believe that there is this magnifying glass on football when you have several sports where the objective is to beat the opponent senseless. Boxing, MMA, UFC...

I'm not wilting daisy or whatever they call it. I participated in an amateur boxing club. Two of the guys on in my club went on to win titles in amateur boxing - one in the bantam weight and one in welterweight.

Hell, I loved watching boxing as a kid and still like watching a good boxing match, but about 80% of the punches in pro boxing go straight to the head. You would think they'd be more worried about that.

Of course this make no damned sense. It makes no sense that the "leader" of the free world would have have time to comment on this issue. Much less start pontificating that even high school students are not "old enough to decide whether to play football". He actually said that. I don't care which political party a president belongs to, he/she/it has no business in this kind of thing, so don't even think of attacking me on this. Oh well, our leader was speaking, AGAIN, of the "...son" he does not have.

[MrRoadrunner]

ORIGINAL: parusski
It makes no sense that the "leader" of the free world would have have time to comment on this issue. Much less start pontificating that even high school students are not "old enough to decide whether to play football". He actually said that. I don't care which political party a president belongs to, he/she/it has no business in this kind of thing, so don't even think of attacking me on this. Oh well, our leader was speaking, AGAIN, of the "...son" he does not have.

I guess he was taking a break from destroying America wholesale and doing it one issue at time? [;)]

For those who think it is dying:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-super-bowl-ratings-20130204,0,4439351.story

"The game scored a 48.1 rating and a 71 share in a select measurement of big cities, which would make it the most-watched TV event in U.S. history."

RR

[rodney727]

From what I can tell the OP likes to cause a fuss then leave. I see she is from Arizona which explains a lot. Take it with a grain of salt. Lesson learned.

ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner

ORIGINAL: parusski
It makes no sense that the "leader" of the free world would have have time to comment on this issue. Much less start pontificating that even high school students are not "old enough to decide whether to play football". He actually said that. I don't care which political party a president belongs to, he/she/it has no business in this kind of thing, so don't even think of attacking me on this. Oh well, our leader was speaking, AGAIN, of the "...son" he does not have.

I guess he was taking a break from destroying America wholesale and doing it one issue at time? [;)]

For those who think it is dying:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-super-bowl-ratings-20130204,0,4439351.story

"The game scored a 48.1 rating and a 71 share in a select measurement of big cities, which would make it the most-watched TV event in U.S. history."

RR

[Missouri_Rebel]

ORIGINAL: rogo727

From what I can tell the OP likes to cause a fuss then leave. I see she is from Arizona which explains a lot. Take it with a grain of salt. Lesson learned.

ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner

ORIGINAL: parusski
It makes no sense that the "leader" of the free world would have have time to comment on this issue. Much less start pontificating that even high school students are not "old enough to decide whether to play football". He actually said that. I don't care which political party a president belongs to, he/she/it has no business in this kind of thing, so don't even think of attacking me on this. Oh well, our leader was speaking, AGAIN, of the "...son" he does not have.

I guess he was taking a break from destroying America wholesale and doing it one issue at time? [;)]

For those who think it is dying:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-super-bowl-ratings-20130204,0,4439351.story

"The game scored a 48.1 rating and a 71 share in a select measurement of big cities, which would make it the most-watched TV event in U.S. history."

RR

Hey rogo. As much as I disagree with much of Rhondas politics, she is a valued member of this forum and doesn't deserve any snark thrown at her. Rhonda commented on a story, gave her opinion concerning her family, and then asked what others thought.

Your post was out of line imo and you should really reconsider disparaging her and the state she lives in.

Sometimes I think you are a little too passionate here. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and Rhonda was clearly interested in those of others.

Eric

[rodney727]

Just expensing my opinion...while she supports the view of woman on the front lines as I do I found her statement of not encouraging her grand kids not to play football because its to dangerous to be ridiculous.at best. Yes it's her opinion and I respect that and she would even tell you Arizona politics makes no sense do I really need to state the obvious here?

[Sarge]

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

Hey rogo. As much as I disagree with much of Rhondas politics, she is a valued member of this forum and doesn't deserve any snark thrown at her. Rhonda commented on a story, gave her opinion concerning her family, and then asked what others thought.

Your post was out of line imo and you should really reconsider disparaging her and the state she lives in.

Sometimes I think you are a little too passionate here. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and Rhonda was clearly interested in those of others.

Eric

did you even read the article “Rhonda” linked up ?..........it’s hardly an objective look at the sport, I really liked the comparison to the Catholic Church

[Missouri_Rebel]

ORIGINAL: Sarge

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

Hey rogo. As much as I disagree with much of Rhondas politics, she is a valued member of this forum and doesn't deserve any snark thrown at her. Rhonda commented on a story, gave her opinion concerning her family, and then asked what others thought.

Your post was out of line imo and you should really reconsider disparaging her and the state she lives in.

Sometimes I think you are a little too passionate here. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and Rhonda was clearly interested in those of others.

Eric

did you even read the article “Rhonda” linked up ?..........it’s hardly an objective look at the sport, I really liked the comparison to the Catholic Church

Honestly, no.

[rodney727]

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

Good grief!!!!![X(]

ORIGINAL: Sarge

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

Hey rogo. As much as I disagree with much of Rhondas politics, she is a valued member of this forum and doesn't deserve any snark thrown at her. Rhonda commented on a story, gave her opinion concerning her family, and then asked what others thought.

Your post was out of line imo and you should really reconsider disparaging her and the state she lives in.

Sometimes I think you are a little too passionate here. Everyone is entitled to their opinions and Rhonda was clearly interested in those of others.

Eric

did you even read the article “Rhonda” linked up ?..........it’s hardly an objective look at the sport, I really liked the comparison to the Catholic Church

Honestly, no.

[Missouri_Rebel]

Ah Salon. The self loathing America hating one sided hypocrisy site. I have no interest in reading their agenda..er..opinion. Really. They have already proved themselves unworthy many times.

Still doesn't change my feelings on what I posted.

[rodney727]

I respect that but always going to post my opinion....especially when members post ludicrous links like she did then support woman on the front lines of combat duty.

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

Ah Salon. The self loathing America hating one sided hypocrisy site. I have no interest in reading their agenda..er..opinion. Really. They have already proved themselves unworthy many times.

Still doesn't change my feelings on what I posted.

[RedArgo]

All it will take is one coach who puts a kid back in when he knows better with the right parents/lawyers and we will have that lawsuit regardless of what the parents/kids signed. Then insurance rates go up and football is already the most expensive sport for schools, so some may make the choice to drop football. I don't know of any schools considering it either, but I don't find it that much of a stretch.

I hope you're right about the safety measures the schools are taking, it would be a shame if the kids didn't have the opportunity to play.

ORIGINAL: rogo727

Simply no. Kids today are required to sign papers releasing the school from such lawsuits. In Nebraska you are allowed a max number of three concussions. Which I feel should really be two. High schools today have strict rules about injuries and if a coach has any doubt about any injury they are required to pull that student right away. They are only liable if they knowingly put the student back in after the fact. I strongly disagree this post below. Don't know of any school considering dropping a football program based on head injuries.

ORIGINAL: RedArgo

What could end football is not injuries to the adults who play in the NFL, but injuries that occur to children playing in high school and before. Once some high school ends up on the wrong end of a multi-million dollar law suit over brain injury, schools will have to make tough decisions about the future of continuing football programs.