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RE: Sturm und drang
Grab a Granny Night, every Thursday, Joanna's, Southsea


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- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
RE: Sturm und drang
Looks like he trapped a bit of a pig,


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"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
RE: Sturm und drang
Way too skinny mate


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"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
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RE: Sturm und drang
Grumpy, really grumpy:
Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 2,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Yura
DD Kawakaze
DD Yugure
DD Hibiki
DD Isonami
Allied Ships
AM Swallow, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
AP Heywood, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Thomas Barry
xAP Santa Barbara, Shell hits 2
xAP Duchess of Bedford, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Dilwara, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Duntroon, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
7358 casualties reported
Squads: 253 destroyed, 72 disabled
Non Combat: 599 destroyed, 138 disabled
Engineers: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 155 (147 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 196 (183 destroyed, 13 disabled)
Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 2,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Yura
DD Kawakaze
DD Yugure
DD Hibiki
DD Isonami
Allied Ships
AM Swallow, Shell hits 6, heavy fires, heavy damage
AP Heywood, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
xAP Thomas Barry
xAP Santa Barbara, Shell hits 2
xAP Duchess of Bedford, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Dilwara, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
xAP Duntroon, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
Allied ground losses:
7358 casualties reported
Squads: 253 destroyed, 72 disabled
Non Combat: 599 destroyed, 138 disabled
Engineers: 28 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 155 (147 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Vehicles lost 196 (183 destroyed, 13 disabled)
"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
RE: Sturm und drang
And yes, there was an escort:
Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 1,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Yura, Shell hits 3
DD Kawakaze
DD Yugure, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hibiki
DD Isonami
Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1
BC Repulse, Shell hits 1
CA Frobisher
CL Ceres, Shell hits 1
DD Voyager
DD Warramunga, Shell hits 1
DD Encounter
DD Fortune
DD Nestor
Night Time Surface Combat, near Ramree Island at 54,48, Range 1,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Yura, Shell hits 3
DD Kawakaze
DD Yugure, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Hibiki
DD Isonami
Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Torpedo hits 1
BC Repulse, Shell hits 1
CA Frobisher
CL Ceres, Shell hits 1
DD Voyager
DD Warramunga, Shell hits 1
DD Encounter
DD Fortune
DD Nestor
"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
RE: Sturm und drang
Then the planes arrived:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 52,46
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 106 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 18
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 10
Martlet II x 1
Martlet IV x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVE Suwannee
CVE Chenango, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 52,46
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 106 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 39 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 18
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 13
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 10
Martlet II x 1
Martlet IV x 15
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
G3M3 Nell: 1 destroyed by flak
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVE Suwannee
CVE Chenango, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x G3M3 Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
Naval Attack: 1 x 18in Type 91 Torpedo
"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
RE: Sturm und drang
And then some more:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 52,46
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 96 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B5M1 Mabel x 6
G3M3 Nell x 10
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 4
Martlet II x 1
Martlet IV x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVE Suwannee, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAP Amra, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Chenango, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Rajput, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 52,46
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 96 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B5M1 Mabel x 6
G3M3 Nell x 10
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 4
Martlet II x 1
Martlet IV x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVE Suwannee, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAP Amra, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Chenango, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Rajput, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
RE: Sturm und drang
And I'm not sure what happened here:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 52,46
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 5
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 1
Martlet II x 1
Martlet IV x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 3 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 52,46
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 27 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 5
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 1
Martlet II x 1
Martlet IV x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 3 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied ground losses:
43 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
RE: Sturm und drang
I thought the whole PI adventure was a diversion to protect the Ramree operation?! Cap better try Formosa.
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RE: Sturm und drang
Haven't heard from the Cap'n on this yet. For the audience, I'll speak for him: "Ugh."
How many planes lost 'on ground' with those two CVE sinkings, Lord Admiral? Any of them divert, or did you lose the lot?
How many planes lost 'on ground' with those two CVE sinkings, Lord Admiral? Any of them divert, or did you lose the lot?

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RE: Sturm und drang
Also, I don't suppose it would be appropriate to praise the torpedo work of Yura, et. al.? I count 9 torpedo hits from that sortie. [X(]
On second thought, it probably wouldn't be appropriate at this juncture.
On second thought, it probably wouldn't be appropriate at this juncture.

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RE: Sturm und drang
Thunderstorm...max visibility 2000 yds. Engagement started at 1000 yds.
Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 60% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 60% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
Hashimoto, Shintaro crosses the 'T'
CL Yura engages BC Repulse at 1,000 yards
CL Yura engages CA Frobisher at 1,000 yards
CL Ceres engages DD Yugure at 1,000 yards
CL Yura engages DD Nestor at 1,000 yards
CL Yura engages DD Encounter at 1,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Warramunga at 1,000 yards
Range increases to 2,000 yards
BB Prince of Wales engages CL Yura at 2,000 yards
BC Repulse engages CL Yura at 2,000 yards
CL Yura engages CA Frobisher at 2,000 yards
CL Yura engages CL Ceres at 2,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Kawakaze at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CL Yura engages BB Prince of Wales at 5,000 yards
BC Repulse engages CL Yura at 5,000 yards
CL Ceres engages DD Yugure at 5,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Warramunga at 5,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Encounter at 5,000 yards
DD Warramunga engages DD Kawakaze at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
BB Prince of Wales engages CL Yura at 8,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Warramunga at 8,000 yards
CA Frobisher engages CL Yura at 8,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Nestor at 8,000 yards
DD Nestor engages DD Yugure at 8,000 yards
Poor visibility due to Thunderstorms with 60% moonlight
Maximum visibility in Thunderstorms and 60% moonlight: 2,000 yards
Range closes to 19,000 yards...
Range closes to 13,000 yards...
Range closes to 7,000 yards...
Range closes to 3,000 yards...
Range closes to 1,000 yards...
Hashimoto, Shintaro crosses the 'T'
CL Yura engages BC Repulse at 1,000 yards
CL Yura engages CA Frobisher at 1,000 yards
CL Ceres engages DD Yugure at 1,000 yards
CL Yura engages DD Nestor at 1,000 yards
CL Yura engages DD Encounter at 1,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Warramunga at 1,000 yards
Range increases to 2,000 yards
BB Prince of Wales engages CL Yura at 2,000 yards
BC Repulse engages CL Yura at 2,000 yards
CL Yura engages CA Frobisher at 2,000 yards
CL Yura engages CL Ceres at 2,000 yards
DD Encounter engages DD Kawakaze at 2,000 yards
Range increases to 5,000 yards
CL Yura engages BB Prince of Wales at 5,000 yards
BC Repulse engages CL Yura at 5,000 yards
CL Ceres engages DD Yugure at 5,000 yards
DD Kawakaze engages DD Warramunga at 5,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Encounter at 5,000 yards
DD Warramunga engages DD Kawakaze at 5,000 yards
Range increases to 8,000 yards
BB Prince of Wales engages CL Yura at 8,000 yards
DD Isonami engages DD Warramunga at 8,000 yards
CA Frobisher engages CL Yura at 8,000 yards
DD Yugure engages DD Nestor at 8,000 yards
DD Nestor engages DD Yugure at 8,000 yards

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RE: Sturm und drang
ORIGINAL: sprior
And then some more:
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 52,46
Weather in hex: Heavy cloud
Raid detected at 96 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 30 minutes
Japanese aircraft
B5M1 Mabel x 6
G3M3 Nell x 10
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 29
Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 4
Martlet II x 1
Martlet IV x 1
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M3 Nell: 1 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
No Allied losses
Allied Ships
CVE Suwannee, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
xAP Amra, Torpedo hits 1
CVE Chenango, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Rajput, Torpedo hits 3, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 11 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Would it be too soon to point out the excellent performance of the B5N1 and G3M3 aircrew here? 10 hits out of 16 torpedoes? Very impressive work. [&o]
Ummm....I mean that this was merely a flesh wound, rah rah Allies and down with the cheatin' Japs!

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RE: Sturm und drang
That will have been Br. 16th Brigade and IV Indian Corps HQ swimming with the Bay of Bengal tiger prawns.
The good news:
Perhaps the F4F's from the CVE's will recover to Akyab.
Perhaps enough of 16th Brigade will have got ashore to take the place.
Having sunk 3 CVE's in the last 2 days, JJ will be newly energized so they don't surrender. [:)]
The good news:
Perhaps the F4F's from the CVE's will recover to Akyab.
Perhaps enough of 16th Brigade will have got ashore to take the place.
Having sunk 3 CVE's in the last 2 days, JJ will be newly energized so they don't surrender. [:)]

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RE: Sturm und drang
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
I hereby retract what I said about "balsa wood Nells"
Note the excellent IJAAF escort. Very well defended en route to the target.

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RE: Sturm und drang
****************Meanwhile, in the PI*****************
Taytay: 5th Air Force is now operating out of Manado, a level 6 airfield. They can't reach Manira or Clark so they go after Taytay. Looks like Taytay is shut down. I was goign to drop some paras on Puerta Princessa, but I forgot. [:)]
Morning Air attack on Taytay , at 75,82
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 25
B-24D1 Liberator x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 damaged
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 16
Taytay: 5th Air Force is now operating out of Manado, a level 6 airfield. They can't reach Manira or Clark so they go after Taytay. Looks like Taytay is shut down. I was goign to drop some paras on Puerta Princessa, but I forgot. [:)]
Morning Air attack on Taytay , at 75,82
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 39 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 13 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 25
B-24D1 Liberator x 16
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 damaged
No Allied losses
Japanese ground losses:
106 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 16

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RE: Sturm und drang
Clark: It's going to take something more than this to take down a level 8 field. We lose at least one B- 24. These birds are flying from Cagayan, which is packed.
Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed on ground
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 6
Naturally, the P-38 sweep comes in afterward.
Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet
Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 31 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 10 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 20
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed on ground
D3A2 Val: 1 destroyed on ground
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Airbase hits 6
Runway hits 6
Naturally, the P-38 sweep comes in afterward.
Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 24 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 17
Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 9
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
1 x P-38G Lightning sweeping at 30000 feet





