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- Cap Mandrake
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RE: Sturm und drang
Also this before the aircraft. Crippled Rajput is picked on mercilessly. I-32 get the shake and bake treatment.
Submarine attack near Akyab at 52,46
Japanese Ships
SS I-30
Allied Ships
xAP Rajput, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
xAP Rajput is sighted by SS I-30
SS I-30 launches 6 torpedoes
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Sub attack near Ramree Island at 54,48
Japanese Ships
SS I-32, hits 19, heavy damage
Allied Ships
DD Encounter
DD Fortune
And then she surfaces and a Dutch boat puts a fish in her. [:)]
Sub vs Sub: SS KXII attacking SS I-32 at 52,49 - near Ramree Island
Japanese Ships
SS I-32, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXII
SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes at 3,000 yards
Submarine attack near Akyab at 52,46
Japanese Ships
SS I-30
Allied Ships
xAP Rajput, Torpedo hits 2, heavy fires, heavy damage
Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
xAP Rajput is sighted by SS I-30
SS I-30 launches 6 torpedoes
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Sub attack near Ramree Island at 54,48
Japanese Ships
SS I-32, hits 19, heavy damage
Allied Ships
DD Encounter
DD Fortune
And then she surfaces and a Dutch boat puts a fish in her. [:)]
Sub vs Sub: SS KXII attacking SS I-32 at 52,49 - near Ramree Island
Japanese Ships
SS I-32, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
Allied Ships
SS KXII
SS KXII launches 2 torpedoes at 3,000 yards

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RE: Sturm und drang
Meanwhile, in the Phirripines...
The Bettys take off early. This might be the biggest Betty raid of the war. They plow into the "main body" moving North near San Jose. Not a single plane from San Jose offers aid. Oh wel...turned out well. The CAP is from Wasp and the 3 CVE's. All the TBF's have been left ashore to make room for fighters.
Morning Air attack on TF, near San Jose at 77,84
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 60
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 21
F4F-4 Wildcat x 94
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed
No Allied losses
The Bettys take off early. This might be the biggest Betty raid of the war. They plow into the "main body" moving North near San Jose. Not a single plane from San Jose offers aid. Oh wel...turned out well. The CAP is from Wasp and the 3 CVE's. All the TBF's have been left ashore to make room for fighters.
Morning Air attack on TF, near San Jose at 77,84
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 60
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 11
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 21
F4F-4 Wildcat x 94
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 4 destroyed
No Allied losses

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RE: Sturm und drang
Legaspi/Naga (SE Luzon): I promise this wasn't gamey. There were DD's and transports too. The CAP from the two adjacent level one airfields co-operate. Nice, nice, very nice.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 82,82
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
D3A2 Val x 18
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 7
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 17
P-40K Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 7 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
PT-259
PT-255
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A2 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A2 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
An AK trying to get some suppries (rooks rike about 10,000 rounds of 105 mm ammo) to Naga...oops..All of the fighters are protecting the PT boats.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Naga at 81,81
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27
D3A2 Val x 22
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAK Mernoo, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x D3A2 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
12 x D3A2 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A2 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
Massive explosion on xAK Mernoo
Sallys with a luxurious escort go after the little grass strip at Legaspi. These fighters should have been with the Bettys.
Morning Air attack on Legaspi , at 82,82
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 13
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 20
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 15
P-40K Warhawk x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 2 destroyed
No Allied losses
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Now Herens with 20 Tojos. They REARRY want to close down Legaspi.
Morning Air attack on Legaspi , at 82,82
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 54 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 29
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 8
P-40K Warhawk x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Morning Air attack on TF, near Legaspi at 82,82
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 74 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 5
D3A2 Val x 18
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 7
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 17
P-40K Warhawk x 22
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 1 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 7 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 1 destroyed
Allied Ships
PT-259
PT-255
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A2 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
3 x D3A2 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
An AK trying to get some suppries (rooks rike about 10,000 rounds of 105 mm ammo) to Naga...oops..All of the fighters are protecting the PT boats.
Morning Air attack on TF, near Naga at 81,81
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid spotted at 11 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 3 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 27
D3A2 Val x 22
No Japanese losses
Allied Ships
xAK Mernoo, Bomb hits 9, and is sunk
Aircraft Attacking:
8 x D3A2 Val releasing from 2000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
12 x D3A2 Val releasing from 1000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
2 x D3A2 Val releasing from 3000'
Naval Attack: 1 x 250 kg SAP Bomb
Massive explosion on xAK Mernoo
Sallys with a luxurious escort go after the little grass strip at Legaspi. These fighters should have been with the Bettys.
Morning Air attack on Legaspi , at 82,82
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 58 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 16 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-21-IIa Sally x 13
Ki-43-IIa Oscar x 20
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 9
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 3
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 15
P-40K Warhawk x 13
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-IIa Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-IIa Oscar: 2 destroyed
Ki-61-Ia Tony: 2 destroyed
No Allied losses
Runway hits 2
Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-21-IIa Sally bombing from 6000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
Now Herens with 20 Tojos. They REARRY want to close down Legaspi.
Morning Air attack on Legaspi , at 82,82
Weather in hex: Heavy rain
Raid detected at 54 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 17 minutes
Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 20
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 29
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 2
Hurricane XIIb x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 8
P-40K Warhawk x 12
Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 2 destroyed
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 destroyed, 2 damaged
Allied aircraft losses
P-40K Warhawk: 3 destroyed
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4
Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 8000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb

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RE: Sturm und drang
Clark: Looks like our B-24's passed the Bettys in the air.
Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 6
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 27
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 5 damaged
Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 4
The B-24's from Jolo are even less effective.
Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 15
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 4
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
B-24D1 Liberator x 10
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 4 damaged
Runway hits 1
Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 44 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 15 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 6
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 25
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 6
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 27
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 5 damaged
Airbase hits 7
Runway hits 4
The B-24's from Jolo are even less effective.
Morning Air attack on Clark Field , at 79,76
Weather in hex: Moderate rain
Raid detected at 62 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 21 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 3
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 15
Ki-61-Ia Tony x 4
Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 9
B-24D1 Liberator x 10
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
B-24D Liberator: 2 damaged
B-24D1 Liberator: 4 damaged
Runway hits 1

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RE: Sturm und drang
Back over by the carriers: I don't know yet if this was a carrier strike. Most likely.
Morning Air attack on TF, near San Jose at 77,84
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
A6M3a Zero x 9
B5N1 Kate x 8
B5N2 Kate x 13
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 20
F4F-4 Wildcat x 85
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 3 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 10 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Afternoon Betty strike
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near San Jose at 77,84
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 20
G4M1 Betty x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 15
F4F-4 Wildcat x 67
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed
Morning Air attack on TF, near San Jose at 77,84
Weather in hex: Clear sky
Raid detected at 77 NM, estimated altitude 8,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
A6M3a Zero x 9
B5N1 Kate x 8
B5N2 Kate x 13
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 20
F4F-4 Wildcat x 85
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
A6M3a Zero: 3 destroyed
B5N1 Kate: 3 destroyed
B5N2 Kate: 10 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 destroyed
Afternoon Betty strike
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near San Jose at 77,84
Weather in hex: Partial cloud
Raid detected at 80 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 28 minutes
Japanese aircraft
A6M3a Zero x 20
G4M1 Betty x 9
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 3
Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 15
F4F-4 Wildcat x 67
Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3a Zero: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed
Ki-44-IIa Tojo: 1 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
F4F-4 Wildcat: 4 destroyed

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RE: Sturm und drang
What it looked like on replay. Interestingly, the Vals were not coming from a carrier as far as I can make out. No attack on IJN carriers because we were exactly 8 hexes away.
Also this, 40 bombers sorties by Jap carriers (all Kates) is quite anemic. I dont think that is a fleet carrier.

Also this, 40 bombers sorties by Jap carriers (all Kates) is quite anemic. I dont think that is a fleet carrier.

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RE: Sturm und drang
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
What it looked like on replay. Interestingly, the Vals were not coming from a carrier as far as I can make out. No attack on IJN carriers because we were exactly 8 hexes away.
Cap'n-any further identification on the origin of the Val unit? It could be either an LBA unit or a 'bought' air wing from a sunk carrier. The latter would take some time to become available in the cue again-1 year IIRC. That's about right, given your bloodbath(s) in and around New Scotland and New (and Improved) Hebrides.

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RE: Sturm und drang
They are D3A2's if that matters.
Fairly capable drivers. 20% hit rate of undamaged DD's doing figure-of-eights at 30 kts. 40% hit rate on an unescorted AK. 40 morning Val sorites. Fewer of them now than existed at the start of the turn.
D3A1's in Burma.
Fairly capable drivers. 20% hit rate of undamaged DD's doing figure-of-eights at 30 kts. 40% hit rate on an unescorted AK. 40 morning Val sorites. Fewer of them now than existed at the start of the turn.
D3A1's in Burma.

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RE: Sturm und drang
[;)]


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RE: Sturm und drang
Those extra ribbons are for killing the last guy that asked why they have extra ribbons.
There is this too. The people on the PRK are eating grass and bark and and there is enough material in those caps to make a bedspread.
There is this too. The people on the PRK are eating grass and bark and and there is enough material in those caps to make a bedspread.

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RE: Sturm und drang
Little Timmy Simo in Kansas in 1929: Mommy, I want to be a P-26 pilot when I grow up.
Mrs Simo: Like Hell you are! I'd sooner you went to mime school. If you must be a pilot, I want you to be a P-39 pilot. It's safer.

Mrs Simo: Like Hell you are! I'd sooner you went to mime school. If you must be a pilot, I want you to be a P-39 pilot. It's safer.

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RE: Sturm und drang
Hey, Cap'n-have you guys thought about 'buying' the airgroups that sank with some of your carriers in earlier action? They should be available by now and may be useful LBA USNAF adjuncts to your efforts. Just a thought.

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RE: Sturm und drang
************With USAAF 36th Fighter Sqdrn., Legaspi, Luzon, March 27, 1943(c)************
Col. Wilson, commanding: Bob, what do you think about this Simo kid? Is he retarded or something?
Maj. Robert Vaught, double ace: Nah, he's alright. His hearts' just not in it. he wanted to be a P-26 driver.
Col. Wilson, commanding: Bob, what do you think about this Simo kid? Is he retarded or something?
Maj. Robert Vaught, double ace: Nah, he's alright. His hearts' just not in it. he wanted to be a P-26 driver.

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RE: Sturm und drang
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Hey, Cap'n-have you guys thought about 'buying' the airgroups that sank with some of your carriers in earlier action? They should be available by now and may be useful LBA USNAF adjuncts to your efforts. Just a thought.
Pretend we didn't read the manual. How do you do that? Also, will they take lay-away?

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RE: Sturm und drang
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
ORIGINAL: Chickenboy
Hey, Cap'n-have you guys thought about 'buying' the airgroups that sank with some of your carriers in earlier action? They should be available by now and may be useful LBA USNAF adjuncts to your efforts. Just a thought.
Pretend we didn't read the manual. How do you do that? Also, will they take lay-away?
No layaway. Cash PP now! You pay now!
You access the list of destroyed air groups as an undermenu toggle under 'group reinforcement schedule', IIRC (at work, no game to double check). Once you select the undermenu button ('destroyed air groups') it will bring up a list of destroyed air groups, their cost in PP and time to return to your OOB.

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RE: Sturm und drang
As one might expect..we do have a few..USN groups. What we dont have is F4F's or many SBD's. We have lots of TBF's.


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Ditto the USAAF groups. No replacement aircraft.


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RE: Sturm und drang
Air groups take about a year to appear after you buy them back. Buy them now and you will have some kind of aircraft for them when they arrive.
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RE: Sturm und drang
Can the F4F units be upgraded to F4U, F6F or FM-2? In about three months, you guys'll be inundated with F6F replacements and then you WILL have beaucoup F4Fs in your replacement pools.ORIGINAL: witpqs
Air groups take about a year to appear after you buy them back. Buy them now and you will have some kind of aircraft for them when they arrive.
Of course, this is all academic at this point. This war will be over within the next year.

RE: Sturm und drang
ORIGINAL: witpqs
Air groups take about a year to appear after you buy them back. Buy them now and you will have some kind of aircraft for them when they arrive.
I did not know it took that long! [X(] .. "No layaway. Cash PP now! You pay now! You pay for prane groups today .. I give you prane groups next year!" This sounds like M&M Enterprises had something to do with this ... [:'(]
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