Laugh n a 1/2 - Manstein63 now allowed

[terje439]

Turn 16 aka Sappers Extreme

Overall
Well, we tried to attack across the Volkhov river in the LG area, and succeeded in one location, but our panzers failed in the most spectacular way (see below) thanks to a USSR sapper regiment whos ranks must include Superman, Wolverine, Cpt.America and the Incredible Hulk...
The USSR launched 2 attacks and scored 2 retreats, while our 86 attacks gave a result of 27 helds, 54 retreats, 2 routs, 1 shatter and 2 surrenders.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
2.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
7.

Losses
USSR : 110.000 troops, 1.361 guns, 335 AFVs, 401 AC.
Axis : 46.000 troops, 543 guns, 195 AFVs, 138 AC.
I am taking WAY too high casualties.

USSR units destroyed
1 Rifle Division, 1 Cavalry Division, 1 PVO AA Regiment.

German Pools
Manpower : 1.678
Vehicles : 169.140
Armaments : 58.230
Hiwi : 78.509
A big dip in armaments this turn...

[loki100]

those are rather impressive sappers ... they never turn up in my army either

at least you have finally forced a front wide retreat - or is that too optimistic an interpretation?

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: loki100

those are rather impressive sappers ... they never turn up in my army either

at least you have finally forced a front wide retreat - or is that too optimistic an interpretation?

MUCH too optimistic [:D]
Nah not really, AGC is doing ok now.


Terje

[Tophat1815]

Can you post screens of Leningrad situation,AGC around gap,AGS around Kiev and Rumanians in far south? Also a closeup look at 12th and 19th panzer divisions TO&E status at present? Thanks. It helps to give a good idea of where you are at going into Fall 41'.

keep going,remember 41' is your weakest showing historically.

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: Tophat1812

Can you post screens of Leningrad situation,AGC around gap,AGS around Kiev and Rumanians in far south? Also a closeup look at 12th and 19th panzer divisions TO&E status at present? Thanks. It helps to give a good idea of where you are at going into Fall 41'.

keep going,remember 41' is your weakest showing historically.

Sure, but the summary is this;
LG - Volkhov line
AGC - some hexes east of the first major river, but tearing the USSR defensive line in pieces
Rumanians - marching towards the river
Kiev - Just east of the smaller part of the city.

Pictures will follow.



Terje

[terje439]

Turn 17

Disclaimer
Seems the super sappers last turn was some bug, as the aerial support for the USSR came from the South Urals...

Overall
Last turn gap is nowhere to be seen this turn, and the pockets we made are also gone. Instead some of our panzers are cut off, and the USSR even rout the 14th panzer...
We form some new pockets, and keep pushing. But at this time, our infantry is the best offensive weapon we possess, and the panzers are really not worth anything. The USSR decide to fall back in the south in face of our fierce Italians and Rumanians, so we say thank you, and move in to destroy some railroads before the upcoming blizzard.
In the North we fail once more to attack across the river, and it now seems LG will remain in USSR hands in this game too. Will alter my aerial settings next turn in a desperate attempt to close the last port by aerial bombardments instead of capturing it.
The USSR made 11 attacks, and scored 4 helds, 1 scouted, 5 retreats and 1 rout.
We launched 62 attacks and gained 16 helds, 45 retreats and 1 rout. Not at all good enough.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
0.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
13.

Losses
USSR : 90.000 troops, 997 guns, 324 AFVs, 324 AC.
Axis : 46.000 troops, 504 guns, 250 AFVs, 119 AC.

USSR units destroyed
None.

German Pools
Manpower : 1.014
Vehicles : 169.897
Armaments : 39.927
Hiwi : 80.237
Another 19k dip in armaments this turn...

[terje439]

Map

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Another map

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Last map

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19th "Panzer" Division

[terje439]

12th "Panzer" Division

[loki100]

ach at least your one decent tank is very experienced ...

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: loki100

ach at least your one decent tank is very experienced ...

^^

[carlkay58]

The fatigue levels are killing you! Pull them back and refit for one or two turns to recover the fatigue and you will be pleasantly surprised at their CV recovery.

[cpt flam]

having put a flamm Pz Bn increase a lot their need in fuel, you must know[;)]

[randallw]

12th Panzer actually has six good tanks...but five of them are broken. [:D]

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: carlkay58

The fatigue levels are killing you! Pull them back and refit for one or two turns to recover the fatigue and you will be pleasantly surprised at their CV recovery.

Had it been earlier in the season, I would, but not now.


Terje

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: cpt flam

having put a flamm Pz Bn increase a lot their need in fuel, you must know[;)]

WHAT!? Extra tanks that even BURN fuel increases the fuel need??? [:D]
Hehe every bit of extra CV was/is needed, the fuel consumption is not my biggest worry [:)]


Terje

[terje439]

ORIGINAL: randallw

12th Panzer actually has six good tanks...but five of them are broken. [:D]

What, are you saying that the PzI, II and 38s are NOT good tanks?! [:D]


Terje

[terje439]

Turn 18 aka too little too late

Overall
We start bombing the last port supplying LG, but it will not be enough, and it does not help that we force the river at one more location. We are running out of time! The USSR pulls back once more, but not before reopening some of the pockets from last turn. I now have to start thinking about the march west....
The USSR launches 4 attacks and score 4 retreats (Amazing how they just manages to get enough CV adjustment to get that 1:1), while we only manage 13 attacks for a score of 3 helds, 9 retreats and 1 surrender this turn.

USSR units in pockets at start of turn
3.

USSR units in pockets at end of turn
7.

Losses
USSR : 38.000 troops, 487 guns, 187 AFVs, 128 AC.
Axis : 37.000 troops, 285 guns, 95 AFVs, 62 AC.
Losses report is fubar again...

USSR units destroyed
1 Tank Division, 1 Rifle Division, 1 AT artillery Brigade.

German Pools
Manpower : 335
Vehicles : 162.396
Armaments : 31.579
Hiwi : 80.861