
Any XP Issues
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- Major SNAFU_M
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RE: Any XP Issues
*sigh* only pic pic per post - be patient with me.


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RE: Any XP Issues
and now the proof. I loaded the game, selected this Arty unit and planned this fire mission. I changed nothing else.


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RE: Any XP Issues
Hi Dave,
I also have a Xin7 64-bit box. The tests in the next section are with it, also confirmed to be running 4.4.260.
I loaded up a new Hoffen, didn't let the clock start, grabbed the 12cm Hvy Mtr Pl 12 Coy and plotted a fire mission.
The duration that comes up is 2 days 5 hours and 59 minutes.
If I then start the clock, let the fire mission begin, cancel it (with the clock running) and then plot a new mission (with the same unit)on another target, I see an initial duration of 2 days, 5 hours and 49 minutes.
I can repeat this ad infinitum.
I can't try with other units at the beginning because they have no ammo.
If I switch to the St. Vith demo scenario, open it, grab the 66 Ar Bn and plot a fire mission with the clock stopped, I see a duration of 3 days 23 hours 59 minutes.
If I cancel this mission with the clock now running, and plot a new fire mission I see a duration of: 3 days 23 hours and 48 minutes.
I then go back to my WinXP box and run the same St.Vith test with the following:
I see exactly the same initial results. When I plot a new fire mission with the clock ticking, it is 3 days, 23 hours and 51 minutes.
Again, I can repeat this ad infinitum.
On the WinXP box I open Joe's Bridge. Clock stopped. plot a mission with the ABTY 153 Gds Arty and I see a duration of 1 day 23 hours and 59 minutes.
cancel, plot a new mission with the clock running and see a duration of 1 day, 23 hours and 51 minutes.
So I see a consistent behaviour the is repeatable, that demonstrates a slight difference in results if the clock is running.
I am out of time right now - but I will come back latter to see if you want me to run another test.
All are on realist delay. all other settings are default. No other orders are initiated by me in any of the tests.
Both boxes are confirmed as running the latest beta.
Regards,
I also have a Xin7 64-bit box. The tests in the next section are with it, also confirmed to be running 4.4.260.
I loaded up a new Hoffen, didn't let the clock start, grabbed the 12cm Hvy Mtr Pl 12 Coy and plotted a fire mission.
The duration that comes up is 2 days 5 hours and 59 minutes.
If I then start the clock, let the fire mission begin, cancel it (with the clock running) and then plot a new mission (with the same unit)on another target, I see an initial duration of 2 days, 5 hours and 49 minutes.
I can repeat this ad infinitum.
I can't try with other units at the beginning because they have no ammo.
If I switch to the St. Vith demo scenario, open it, grab the 66 Ar Bn and plot a fire mission with the clock stopped, I see a duration of 3 days 23 hours 59 minutes.
If I cancel this mission with the clock now running, and plot a new fire mission I see a duration of: 3 days 23 hours and 48 minutes.
I then go back to my WinXP box and run the same St.Vith test with the following:
I see exactly the same initial results. When I plot a new fire mission with the clock ticking, it is 3 days, 23 hours and 51 minutes.
Again, I can repeat this ad infinitum.
On the WinXP box I open Joe's Bridge. Clock stopped. plot a mission with the ABTY 153 Gds Arty and I see a duration of 1 day 23 hours and 59 minutes.
cancel, plot a new mission with the clock running and see a duration of 1 day, 23 hours and 51 minutes.
So I see a consistent behaviour the is repeatable, that demonstrates a slight difference in results if the clock is running.
I am out of time right now - but I will come back latter to see if you want me to run another test.
All are on realist delay. all other settings are default. No other orders are initiated by me in any of the tests.
Both boxes are confirmed as running the latest beta.
Regards,
"Popular Opinion? What I suggest you do with 'Popular Opinion' is biologically impossible and morally questionable." -
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
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RE: Any XP Issues
ORIGINAL: dazkaz15
ORIGINAL: Major SNAFU
Hi,
I run XP but I have been on the road. I have played about 1/2 way through Hoffen and have not seen any issues other than some odd sizes of the order boxes- but I would have to read back through all of the posts to see if this is not working as expected or if there was an issue. I have not had a crash, and I save fairly often. I Odis notice that the IG of the 752 stays attached in this version, which is a problem that I have seen in previous versions when trying to move this unit as a whole and the IG, even if attached when the order is issued, gets left behind.
Anyway I will try to run some more this weekend, but I cannot run anymore this evening.
The IG gun is a support unit, with a fairly long bombard range. The Support units tend to stay back as they just move to within their bombardment range of the move order. If you want them to move with the unit then either uncheck basing, or detach it and move it individually.
I hope this is what you mean? It was hard to give a definitive reply to the query without more information.
Daz
Here is a picture showing the end result. The gun was always attached to the HQ. I plotted the move, but left all decisions to the AI.
I don't this a gun should ever be left behind like this. A huge movement like this should always keep the attached units together, or so my thoughts are.

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"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
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One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
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RE: Any XP Issues
Don't know why Dave queried this arty issue - aren't you just referring to the bug Pokerwolf first discovered, everyone has gone on about (me included), Dave aknowledged and BG fixed (for final build, I mean) - referenced in this thread - tm.asp?m=3303208
Or is it something diff?
Or is it something diff?
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RE: Any XP Issues
I think it is the same - but I did the tests to be certain.ORIGINAL: phoenix
Don't know why Dave queried this arty issue - aren't you just referring to the bug Pokerwolf first discovered, everyone has gone on about (me included), Dave aknowledged and BG fixed (for final build, I mean) - referenced in this thread - tm.asp?m=3303208
Or is it something diff?
"Popular Opinion? What I suggest you do with 'Popular Opinion' is biologically impossible and morally questionable." -
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
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RE: Any XP Issues
Yes. Dave must be working too hard.
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RE: Any XP Issues
Probably Dave is testing with the version where that bug has been already fixed by BG (Post 4.4.260)...
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RE: Any XP Issues
Yes I have been working too hard. But that's the story of my life. [:)]
Why I queried the build number was to ascertain whther or not this error was occurring with the latest build (4.4.260). I can confirm that running the tutorial, selecting the 66th Arty Bn and ordering a bombard with a single click to place it and touching nothing else, results in an 11 minute duration.
So I am puzzled by this.

Why I queried the build number was to ascertain whther or not this error was occurring with the latest build (4.4.260). I can confirm that running the tutorial, selecting the 66th Arty Bn and ordering a bombard with a single click to place it and touching nothing else, results in an 11 minute duration.
So I am puzzled by this.

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RE: Any XP Issues
Sorry my bad. Yes this was fixed by Miquel after the last build went out. Obviously I do need to rest up today. It's a beautiful Autumn day in Canberra. I'm going to enjoy it. cya
RE: Any XP Issues
New to testing so I hope this isn't duplicate. This is with the newest build from the member's area.
On the left side there is a lot of text missing, it is cut off due to "window" overlap issues:
http://wavehh.dyndns.org/commandops/xp000001.png
This is on XP.
On the left side there is a lot of text missing, it is cut off due to "window" overlap issues:
http://wavehh.dyndns.org/commandops/xp000001.png
This is on XP.
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RE: Any XP Issues
ORIGINAL: redwolf
New to testing so I hope this isn't duplicate. This is with the newest build from the member's area.
On the left side there is a lot of text missing, it is cut off due to "window" overlap issues:
http://wavehh.dyndns.org/commandops/xp000001.png
This is on XP.
I think this is the same as this problem, which is due to the resolution you have your display set to.
tm.asp?m=2479253
"Popular Opinion? What I suggest you do with 'Popular Opinion' is biologically impossible and morally questionable." -
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
RE: Any XP Issues
For solutions see the Sidebar Issues and Sidebar Font threads at the top of the Tech Support subForum.
RE: Any XP Issues
Thanks for the testing guys. I don't see any showstoppers here. So I will now set about doing another build. This will be the final for the patch #4.
RE: Any XP Issues
There always was a difference between paused and unpaused behaviour:
When unpaused you could fiddle with the duration settings but they always reverted to default ~ i.e. they adjusted to the 'new setting' then got reverted immediately. With the game paused, the duration settings could be adjusted and they would stick and be in effect when unpausing.
This might be the difference here? Wild shot in the dark, but worth re-checking. (The revised value from recent changes not being applied in unpaused play? perhaps?)
When unpaused you could fiddle with the duration settings but they always reverted to default ~ i.e. they adjusted to the 'new setting' then got reverted immediately. With the game paused, the duration settings could be adjusted and they would stick and be in effect when unpausing.
This might be the difference here? Wild shot in the dark, but worth re-checking. (The revised value from recent changes not being applied in unpaused play? perhaps?)
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RE: Any XP Issues
The only issue, which may not be XP related, with the 460 is that in the St. Vith scenario, the 10th mot Div frequently stops moving and sits just south of Steinebruck. The 8th Armored runs right through the same area. Both the 8th and the 10th were tasked at the same time with a move order with way points to go from the point they appear on the map to NW of Rogden.
I have been able to duplicate this a few times, but not 100%. To get the 10th moving again, I essentially delete their current order and re-order the exact same movement and destination and off they go.
I have been able to duplicate this a few times, but not 100%. To get the 10th moving again, I essentially delete their current order and re-order the exact same movement and destination and off they go.
"Popular Opinion? What I suggest you do with 'Popular Opinion' is biologically impossible and morally questionable." -
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
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RE: Any XP Issues
Hi Dave,
Once I try a few more times and am more certain I haven't done something stupid, I'll send it to you. I don't want to toss any red herrings at you if I can help it.
Once I try a few more times and am more certain I haven't done something stupid, I'll send it to you. I don't want to toss any red herrings at you if I can help it.
"Popular Opinion? What I suggest you do with 'Popular Opinion' is biologically impossible and morally questionable." -
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"
"One ping to find them all,
One ping to link them;
One ping to promote them all,
and in the darkness sink them"