Fortification outside a base

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RE: Fortification outside a base

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I have never seen any Jap unit, weather it be a Div, Rgt or whatever build 4 forts in a non base hex. Usually gets up to 2 fairly soon and 3 after a few months.

But have you ever had a division at forts 3 in a non-base hex?

Yes.
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I've seen IJA units get to forts 4 in a non-base hex. Never more than 4 however.
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I have seen units dig in to Fort Level 5 even.
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Read this thread.

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It has several posts from me (and others on clarifications) plus my fortification 101.

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(Miller was drawn to this thread because he saw the title an thought it read: Fornication Outside a Base.)
Well, if you're going to fornicate, it better be outside a base, otherwise you might get court martialled. But that brings up a question, what would a fornication level 1 be, versus a 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9? Furthermore, is it possible to achieve a fornication level 10? Has anyone attempted that?

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But have you ever had a division at forts 3 in a non-base hex?
ORIGINAL: Miller

Yes.
ORIGINAL: Cribtop

I've seen IJA units get to forts 4 in a non-base hex. Never more than 4 however.

I've had a brigade at forts 5, but as I mentioned above divisions in place for 6 months with supply only got to 2 and stayed there. Were there any special conditions, Miller, or other factors that led to an IJA division getting to forts 3?
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I once did notice a division of mine, which had been in the same spot for 18 months, had achieved field fortifications of level 6. But that is quite rare.

1. You should not expect to ever be able to go above level 6 in field fortifications.

2. Infantry/armour units have limited engineering assets embedded with the unit. Most engineering resources are found in dedicated engineering units with zero, or nominal assault value. It would be rare for players to send those units out to the countryside to fortify their zero/nominal AV, preferring instead to deploy them much more effectively in building up base infrastructure or base fortification levels which are available to all the units located at the base.

Just as it is relatively quick to build up a base's fortification levels up to level 2, the same applies to infantry/armour although you should expect that it will take longer to do so in the field because of the reduced number of available engineers in the unit. To see higher levels you are going to need to keep the unit stationary for a lot longer than most players will allow, and be in a good supply position.

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