Micheal T (Ger) vs Kamil (Sov)

[KamilS]

T4 north & centre (German)


Michael approaches first line of defences in the north and centre.

Important tank battles has taken place east of Smolensk.

[KamilS]

T4 south (German)


Dnepr line was breached and many divisions are locked will be lost.

[KamilS]

T4 north & centre (Soviet)


Two pockets were broken what will present Micheal with unpleasant alternative - rout or spend more MPs bypassing encircled troops.


Defensive line east of Smolensk was strengthened further.

[schascha]

I like yours AARs Thx Kamil[&o]

[KamilS]

T4 south (Soviet)

I decided against undertaking any attempts to save more troops. Risk is too big. It is not yet necessary to be desperate.

[KamilS]

schascha

I like yours AARs Thx Kamil

Thank you.

[KamilS]

T5 north (German)


I think not much will happen until German infantry arrive.

[KamilS]

T5 centre (German)


I think next turn I can expect infantry finally joining battle. Real fighting will start.

[KamilS]

T5 south (German)


Not much to report here either.

[HITMAN202]

Congrats on a great 4 th move and how stable your position is in AGN and AGS. Your breaking of the two pockets last turn was a huge impediment to his advances. I'm very, very worried about the lack of depth of your AGC's defense. So much strength is in the immediate north and south of where it is needed IMO. Granted it is your move but I would liked to have seen the early construction of forts on the Vyzama line. I hope you kick the c*** (crud) out of that lead Pz unit in AGC.

I'm learning a lot about Soviet play this last month. THEPROS have not been nice to me. [8|][8|][8|][8|]

[KamilS]

HITMAN202

I'm very, very worried about the lack of depth of your AGC's defense. So much strength is in the immediate north and south of where it is needed IMO

I think everything is relatively under control.

[KamilS]

T5 north (Soviet)


I think I will withstand first wave of assaults without being ripped apart.

[KamilS]

T5 centre (Soviet)


I restrained myself and avoided counter-attacking.

[KamilS]

T5 south (Soviet)


There is most likely enough distance between my lines and panzers so I should be secure.

[KamilS]

T5 OOB & casualties


I lost lots of territory but my forces are relatively strong so there is hope of slowing German advance down.

[KamilS]

A that is it. Unfortunately game end here due to the problems cause by soaring Soviet morale.

[carlkay58]

OK, historically at this point AGC is stopped dead in its tracks after taking Smolensk. There are four to six weeks of almost trench warfare with the Soviets trying their best to kill themselves attacking the Axis but doing enough damage to the Axis that they can't do anything either. Not until the supply lines catch up, reinforcements arrive, and replacements/refit/rest occurs will this change. AGN is trying to close in on Leningrad and fight through the Luga River Line, and AGS is still trying to make it to the Dnepr.

I don't understand the 'problem' with the increased Soviet morale recovery. A morale of 40 means that almost any defensive combat loss with have a great chance of routing the unit. A morale of 50 just means that you are two to three defeats away from that. I am part of the group of voices asking that the Soviet morale be returned to 45 for 1941, but this just means the Soviets are more fragile and only a single defeat or two from routing easily. So a 1941 Soviet has to rotate the front line and be careful of counter attacks because those units will be even closer to routing.

However I will also admit to playing the AI a lot lately in play tests and I am used to being at 80% vs 120%

[Michael T]

We intend to restart with same HR as soon as a new patch with a fix for the morale issue is resolved. I have a new opening I have developed that is going to make its debut in the restart. It should provoke some chat. I am hopefull that they just revert to a cap of around 45 and perhaps a little slowdown in reaching that cap rather than doing it in 2 to 3 turns. Anyway stay tuned [:)]

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: carlkay58

OK, historically at this point AGC is stopped dead in its tracks after taking Smolensk. There are four to six weeks of almost trench warfare with the Soviets trying their best to kill themselves attacking the Axis but doing enough damage to the Axis that they can't do anything either. Not until the supply lines catch up, reinforcements arrive, and replacements/refit/rest occurs will this change. AGN is trying to close in on Leningrad and fight through the Luga River Line, and AGS is still trying to make it to the Dnepr.

I don't understand the 'problem' with the increased Soviet morale recovery. A morale of 40 means that almost any defensive combat loss with have a great chance of routing the unit. A morale of 50 just means that you are two to three defeats away from that. I am part of the group of voices asking that the Soviet morale be returned to 45 for 1941, but this just means the Soviets are more fragile and only a single defeat or two from routing easily. So a 1941 Soviet has to rotate the front line and be careful of counter attacks because those units will be even closer to routing.

However I will also admit to playing the AI a lot lately in play tests and I am used to being at 80% vs 120%

The issue (NM recovering to easly ) causes game to become instant trench warfare after turn 10.

So we are looking at SHC going over to offensive operations before the end of summer of 41. I mean offensive operations and not historical Stalin death march offensives of 41.

A blizzard that is Middle Earth plus 100x and then a SHC steam roller beginning spring of 42.

Basicly the only hope of a draw for GHC is my Homeland Defence Strategy starting turn 17.

Remember even the smallest tweaks have a HUGE snowball effect withen 50 to 75 turns.

[mmarquo]

I am not playing WITE anymore, but this Forum is still one of my favorites: it is amusing watching the bugs being flushed out of the swamp. The Holy Grail of EF gaming, so close yet so far.

[:)]