So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
Wow..read this post finally.... amusing. A couple of questions.. what works "better" in the 1.02 patch? And if something does, how do you get that patch?
Oh, and another one.. Does this game have a way to create units from scratch? But that is maybe belonging in a different post..
Oh, and another one.. Does this game have a way to create units from scratch? But that is maybe belonging in a different post..
- LoneWulf63
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
I can't believe how people can get into such a pissing contest over a GAME. Its a game guys, no need to have a stroke because some patch for this or that game hasn't been released yet. Here is a suggestion. If you don't like a certain version of a game, DON'T PLAY IT but don't attack those that are only trying to make it better for the rest of us whether it takes years or decades. Nuff said.
In loving memory of my wife, Rebecca. 5/2/52 to 7/13/2014. I miss you sweetheart.
RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: resinslinger
I can't believe how people can get into such a pissing contest over a GAME. Its a game guys, no need to have a stroke because some patch for this or that game hasn't been released yet. Here is a suggestion. If you don't like a certain version of a game, DON'T PLAY IT but don't attack those that are only trying to make it better for the rest of us whether it takes years or decades. Nuff said.
Obviously, you don't have the addiction and enjoyment factor that many of the rest of us have. Nobody is "attacking " anyone else. If we were, we'd be banned. My complaint is with Matrix and the excessive (I don't have immortality so waiting YEARS for a patch is not an option for me) time it is taking for a new patch. You are a relative newb to the forum and probably the game. I've been here since 2005. Heck, I've been playing the game back when Talonsoft first released East Front. I was playing East Front before I even knew there WAS a forum. So I have a pretty long history with the game. So you can pretty much guess what I think of your "suggestion".
Actually, I have moved on to Tiller's Squad Battles. They are more versatile and the graphics, especially with modder's help, are MUCH better.
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- LoneWulf63
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: Deputy
ORIGINAL: resinslinger
I can't believe how people can get into such a pissing contest over a GAME. Its a game guys, no need to have a stroke because some patch for this or that game hasn't been released yet. Here is a suggestion. If you don't like a certain version of a game, DON'T PLAY IT but don't attack those that are only trying to make it better for the rest of us whether it takes years or decades. Nuff said.
Obviously, you don't have the addiction and enjoyment factor that many of the rest of us have. Nobody is "attacking " anyone else. If we were, we'd be banned. My complaint is with Matrix and the excessive (I don't have immortality so waiting YEARS for a patch is not an option for me) time it is taking for a new patch. You are a relative newb to the forum and probably the game. I've been here since 2005. Heck, I've been playing the game back when Talonsoft first released East Front. I was playing East Front before I even knew there WAS a forum. So I have a pretty long history with the game. So you can pretty much guess what I think of your "suggestion".
Actually, I have moved on to Tiller's Squad Battles. They are more versatile and the graphics, especially with modder's help, are MUCH better.
I don't have the same addiction to this game as the rest of you? Really now, and just how long have you been playing war-games, computer or otherwise? I have been involved in war-gaming for well over 40 years and my passion for the John Tiller Series is just as strong as anyone else. I started playing WF, EF II, and Divided Ground almost from the day they were published. I have been on many forums (games or others) and there always seems to be those individuals that nobody can please, be it the developers of the games or the people that mod the games. If something isn't done the way you want for a particular game then I suggest you learn how to do some coding and make a mod for all to enjoy. And as for attacking anyone, did I attack you directly? No I did not. All I said was that this is a game, and not something to get so upset about. Now if I get banned for stating that, then so be it. And as for me knowing what you think of my suggestion, well Sir I would rather not tell you my true feelings about you because I would get banned. Good Day to you.
In loving memory of my wife, Rebecca. 5/2/52 to 7/13/2014. I miss you sweetheart.
- LoneWulf63
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
Deputy. One other thing you should know. If I wasn't as addicted to the JTCS game system, as you have implied, then pray-tell why would I start converting numerous scenarios from a fine conventional World War II platoon level war-game for the JTCS game system? If that isn't addiction and DEDICATION to a game, I don't know what is.
In loving memory of my wife, Rebecca. 5/2/52 to 7/13/2014. I miss you sweetheart.
- MrRoadrunner
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: Deputy
Actually, I have moved on to Tiller's Squad Battles. They are more versatile and the graphics, especially with modder's help, are MUCH better.
So, you are posting here to simply continue to moan?
Maybe there is a Squad Battles forum somewhere that you could infest? [;)]
RR
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― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner
ORIGINAL: Deputy
Actually, I have moved on to Tiller's Squad Battles. They are more versatile and the graphics, especially with modder's help, are MUCH better.
So, you are posting here to simply continue to moan?
Maybe there is a Squad Battles forum somewhere that you could infest? [;)]
RR
Gents: [8D]
Actually, there is a Squad Battles forum (GameSquad) and Deputy is already active on it.
http://forums.gamesquad.com/forumdispla ... ad-Battles
Good for you Deputy! [:)] Have fun there!
Regards, - Mike
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- OttoVonBlotto
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
After all this time, hassle and bitching I can't say I'm sorry to see he's finally moved on and left something he was so unhappy about behind, though it seems all is not totally happy in his new chosen game world either. Who would have guessed ?
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: Otto von Blotto
After all this time, hassle and bitching I can't say I'm sorry to see he's finally moved on and left something he was so unhappy about behind, though it seems all is not totally happy in his new chosen game world either. Who would have guessed ?
Yeah, whata surprise. Another Tiller game series that has become vaporware because the wonderful Mr. Tiller is more interested in making the almighty $ with newer games, than in actually supporting and fixing what he has already created. Squad Battles IS head and shoulders better than the Campaign Series in every respect. But much of the reason for that is because SOME of the games in that series (Red Victory, Winter War, and Eagles Strike) can have their combat values for weapons and vehicles and loadouts modified by the user. So we can correct the innaccuracies Tiller put into the games.
Tiller seems to think that WW2 was fought mainly by infantry, and that artillery and tanks took a minor role. He flatly stated he won't do ANYTHING to alter the games to make artillery and tanks take a more dominant role. So we have King Tiger tanks that are being kniocked out rather easily by infantry with 2.75 inch bazookas. Fortunately, we can change that in the DAT files. So we can make Squad Battles games more realistic. Something you CAN'T do with the Campaign Series. In Squad Battles we can modify each individual weapon to reflect it's actual abilities and strengths and weaknesses.
At any rate, I have move on from the CS into something that is actually still alive because of user mods. Have fun waiting for decades for a patch to come out for CS. [:D]
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- MrRoadrunner
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: Deputy
At any rate, I have move on from the CS into something that is actually still alive because of user mods. Have fun waiting for decades for a patch to come out for CS. [:D]
Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya! Ta ta!
RR
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner
ORIGINAL: Deputy
At any rate, I have move on from the CS into something that is actually still alive because of user mods. Have fun waiting for decades for a patch to come out for CS. [:D]
Don't let the door hit ya where the Good Lord split ya! Ta ta!
RR
I salute your brilliant reply. Unfortunately, only one finger seems to work. [:D]
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- MrRoadrunner
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
Pull it out and you can use two?
Unless it broke when the door hit ya?
RR
Unless it broke when the door hit ya?
RR
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Now boys - play nice!
I like JTCS and SB. I own all the SB titles. I enjoy them both. Could they both benefit from Mr Tiller's undivided attention? - Certainly. I don't think it's going to happen though. I enjoy what I have.
I like JTCS and SB. I own all the SB titles. I enjoy them both. Could they both benefit from Mr Tiller's undivided attention? - Certainly. I don't think it's going to happen though. I enjoy what I have.
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: KEYSTONE07950
Now boys - play nice!
I like JTCS and SB. I own all the SB titles. I enjoy them both. Could they both benefit from Mr Tiller's undivided attention? - Certainly. I don't think it's going to happen though. I enjoy what I have.
Well said Keystone. It's a shame how quick the Tiller stuff becomes abandonware. Seems like just when he comes out with something good, he quits it.
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ORIGINAL: KEYSTONE07950
Now boys - play nice!
I like JTCS and SB. I own all the SB titles. I enjoy them both. Could they both benefit from Mr Tiller's undivided attention? - Certainly. I don't think it's going to happen though. I enjoy what I have.
Mr. Florman,
It is certainly not "play".
What "Mr. Tiller" did was sell the rights to JTCS to Matrix through the company that purchase the right before. Mr. Tiller did come back to offer code information. That is why it is called the Matrix-John-Tiller-Campaign-Series. Since it's purchase a dedicated team of modders and programmers, working for free, have tried to improve the game and fix some "glitches/bugs" in the original. Also, they have added controversial bits to the game, in the name of improvement.
The comments of Deputy-Dog are specious at best. His many complaints and ridiculous claims concerning MatrixJTCS are wearing thin due to his latest announcement that he has forsaken CS for Squad Battles.
Since this is the CS forum, here at Matrix, he was simply asked to take his views to a Squad Battles forum. Unless you want to turn this into a Squad Battles forum too?
In my view, his coming here and making his comments, is akin to a person who goes to a movie theater and craps on the floor because he prefers a different movie?
Barring his being banned from posting what other choice is there in dealing with him?
We can await his taking his "dirt nap", but bearing his foolish and droning comments will be to an individual taste until then?
RR
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- LoneWulf63
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner
ORIGINAL: KEYSTONE07950
Now boys - play nice!
I like JTCS and SB. I own all the SB titles. I enjoy them both. Could they both benefit from Mr Tiller's undivided attention? - Certainly. I don't think it's going to happen though. I enjoy what I have.
Mr. Florman,
It is certainly not "play".
What "Mr. Tiller" did was sell the rights to JTCS to Matrix through the company that purchase the right before. Mr. Tiller did come back to offer code information. That is why it is called the Matrix-John-Tiller-Campaign-Series. Since it's purchase a dedicated team of modders and programmers, working for free, have tried to improve the game and fix some "glitches/bugs" in the original. Also, they have added controversial bits to the game, in the name of improvement.
The comments of Deputy-Dog are specious at best. His many complaints and ridiculous claims concerning MatrixJTCS are wearing thin due to his latest announcement that he has forsaken CS for Squad Battles.
Since this is the CS forum, here at Matrix, he was simply asked to take his views to a Squad Battles forum. Unless you want to turn this into a Squad Battles forum too?
In my view, his coming here and making his comments, is akin to a person who goes to a movie theater and craps on the floor because he prefers a different movie?
Barring his being banned from posting what other choice is there in dealing with him?
We can await his taking his "dirt nap", but bearing his foolish and droning comments will be to an individual taste until then?
RR
I couldn't have stated it better.[&o]
In loving memory of my wife, Rebecca. 5/2/52 to 7/13/2014. I miss you sweetheart.
RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner
ORIGINAL: KEYSTONE07950
Now boys - play nice!
I like JTCS and SB. I own all the SB titles. I enjoy them both. Could they both benefit from Mr Tiller's undivided attention? - Certainly. I don't think it's going to happen though. I enjoy what I have.
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In my view, his coming here and making his comments, is akin to a person who goes to a movie theater and craps on the floor because he prefers a different movie?
RR
Actually, it would be a crap on the floor because the movie I paid for ISN'T SHOWING. And HASN'T BEEN SHOWING for YEARS, even though the theater keeps promising a feature film. The crap on the floor would be more entertainment than what Matrix has been promising. Nice scatological illustration, BTW. [:D]
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- MrRoadrunner
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Live in your own crap then?
RR
RR
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RE: So is update 1.05 dead in the water or what?
ORIGINAL: MrRoadrunner
Live in your own crap then?
RR
You are the one that brought up scatalogical references. BTW...you are back on my ignore list. You might try getting a life beyond harassing me.
Bye-bye.
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