WitE currently unplayable because of national moral rule set.

[Peltonx]

After 18+ months of my bitching (and the help of 3 others the last few months) the moral bug was finally fixed, but it exposed another issue.

Currently the game has 50, hard wired as a NM limit for the game(both sides).

This means that SHC NM could be 20, but because of this rule SHC units will climb to 50 sitting 10 hexes from the front with in a few turns.

This means any games started under this rule set:

1. GHC lines will not get close to historical
2. SHC loses will be far lower then historical
3. The 1941 blizzard will be plain Middle Earth
4. SHC should be in Berlin by late 1943 or early 1944

This issue needs to be fixed asap, it is by design we know [:@] just like 1v1=2v1 was by design.

So no need to reply with the by design BS, thank you. The design sucks and has made game unplayable all things being equal.

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[morvael]

I would be happy with basing all the morale recovery rules to NM, so that:

The unit's morale is below NM, and it is in refit mode [and more than 10 hexes away from a supplied enemy unit].
The unit's morale is below NM, and it is more than 10 hexes away from the nearest enemy unit.
The unit's morale is below its national morale. In this case it can recover as much as 10% of the national morale but not more than the country's national morale.
The unit is in a very good supply and support situation and its morale is less than NM+5. If Die (NM+5) is greater than the unit's morale than a gain for this situation is possible.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: morvael

I would be happy with basing all the morale recovery rules to NM, so that:

The unit's morale is below NM, and it is in refit mode [and more than 10 hexes away from a supplied enemy unit].
The unit's morale is below NM, and it is more than 10 hexes away from the nearest enemy unit.
The unit's morale is below its national morale. In this case it can recover as much as 10% of the national morale but not more than the country's national morale.
The unit is in a very good supply and support situation and its morale is less than NM+5. If Die (NM+5) is greater than the unit's morale than a gain for this situation is possible.

In other words dump this part of rule 9.1.1

If a units morale is below 50, and is in refit mode

If a units morale is below 50, and it is 10 or more hexes away from the nearest enemy unit.

Will my crusade to fix NM finally be over after close to 2 yrs?

Thanks morvael for the fix.

Guys start e-mailing 2by3 and anyone else on the team.

The more people that bitch the quicker this will get addressed.

[HITMAN202]

But couldn't a forum like less give a temporary fix (prior to WITE2) in setting guidelines for adjusting morale level and fort build level (which IMO is a big issue) in new games  ???

[swkuh]

Uhhh.. give guidelines for adjusting play factors for morale, forts, logistics, admin, & supply. Yes, forum might help but a little experimentation goes a long way. At least, for AI addicts like me.

I use +20 moral, -10 all others, but really big +300 admin points (until forces are organized) for the Germans. Some good comments in various threads for best levels, but its a gamers choice.

Too bad Pelton has given up the ghost over this issue. His expertise might be useful. For one-on-one players, is this too hard to negotiate?

[M60A3TTS]

This is not a tech issue. It is an opinion.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: M60A3TTS

This is not a tech issue. It is an opinion.

And that is yours hehehehe


Opinions are like *** ***** everyone has one.

But your right

[elmo3]

Since this thread is a duplicate of another one: tm.asp?m=3355265 and since Joel has posted twice in the other thread I believe that is where he will look for feedback. So I'm going to lock this one. Please continue the discussion in the linked thread.