Hell bent on Lebensraum III (no Kamil)

[Peltonx]

I wish nothing but the best for you and your family.

You will be missed by many here.

I personally will miss your out side the box thinking that is very hard to find these days.

Take care and God bless.

[Michael T]

Thanks guys. It is appreciated. But family must come first

[carlkay58]

Understood and good luck. Hope to see you back in the future.

[Manstein63]

ORIGINAL: Pelton

I wish nothing but the best for you and your family.

You will be missed by many here.

I personally will miss your out side the box thinking that is very hard to find these days.

Take care and God bless.

+1
It has always been a pleasure reading your comments & AAR's its just a shame that I never got round to playing against you (I think it would have been fun) Maybe when WITE 2.0 comes out & your situation improves we might get something arranged.
Best wishes to you & yours
Manstein63

[Balou]

Good luck. And thank you for sharing your expertise.

[Michael T]

My situation has had some sudden and unexpected relief. Kamil has kindly agreed to play on at a much reduced turn rate. I will update this AAR when I can but it may not be as regular as previous AAR's. [:)]

[Michael T]

In answer to your question Pelton I am unsure at this point. My instinct is to try an fight in front of Moscow. And in a 'normal' situation I would advocate that. By normal I mean that the Soviet Army is spread out more across the front. But Kamil has ~80% of his Army in the vicintiy of Moscow. My original plan was to run south of Kaluga and hold north of it. But the dispostion of the Red Army (its like a huge blob around Moscow) has me thinking perhaps I should at least run in December right across the front.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: Michael T

In answer to your question Pelton I am unsure at this point. My instinct is to try an fight in front of Moscow. And in a 'normal' situation I would advocate that. By normal I mean that the Soviet Army is spread out more across the front. But Kamil has ~80% of his Army in the vicintiy of Moscow. My original plan was to run south of Kaluga and hold north of it. But the dispostion of the Red Army (its like a huge blob around Moscow) has me thinking perhaps I should at least run in December right across the front.

Yes it is wise to with draw ( Germans never run ) at least during December and then try in areas to hold in January. The area where there is allot of cav units it might be nessary to with draw into February.

Family does come first, last summer I had to take a 4 month break and even now I am down to 1 game at a time and not my standard 4-5.

Very nice to at least have you around even on a limited basis for now.

[juret]

i always read MT threads also.

i hope everything is well and and send u best wishes from my cabin in the countryside of sweden

[Peltonx]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZJw0aKz ... re=related

[Michael T]

The game is kicking along. Mud turns very quick. I am awaiting Kamils last mud turn.

I had a major foul up. With all the stuff going on in RL I forgot to move my air supply fleet closer to the railheads before mud hit. This resulted in about 25K of Soviets escaping my POW camps [:@]

Anyhow I have a plan for the blizzard now. There will be a Snow O around Moscow and possibly at Penza. I have been falling back from Stalingrad as it was never a serious attempt at the city. I might add the only times I have ever captured Stalingrad in 1941 is when it was left undefended and it was raided from afar.

My troops have been suffering from lack of supply for pretty much the entire game from T4 on. I hope to make some attacks south of Rostov but my Army there is weak and the Reds have built up in this area during the mud.

I will post a map and data and the end of the first Snow turn.

[Michael T]

The Snow offensive begins. Nothing dramatic planned but we do have some limited objectives. Around Moscow I want to clear the line Kalinin-Moscow-Ryazan. Inflicting maximum casualties, capturing the 2 Arm factories in Kolomna and as many Manpower centres as possible. In the Centre I want to re-establish a buffer zone by reclaiming as much of the territory I gave up in the mud as possible. In the South very simple. Kill Reds and do a dance to the south of Rostov.

At this point the blizzard plan for December is to hold firm between Kalinin and the Oka. Hold on to Rostov as long as possible. Everywhere else simply pull back and avoid contact, Trade the space we have in ample quantities for time. But above all remain flexible and wary of traps. No units will be sent back to Germany, we are here to fight. But I will rest some in City/Urban hexes. Reassess the whole plan in January.

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End Axis T22 (13th Nov 1941) Snow

In the north the Reds give up Cherepovets without a fight. We hold the line between Rybinsk Res and Kalinin. The offensive between Kalinin and Ryazan goes well, we clean out many Red ID's and encircle 2 ID for elimination in T23.

German ID between Ryazan and Saransk begin to withdraw southwest. Mobile units will screen the retreat and maintain the buffer.

At Penza we re-establish our superiority and take the City. A weak ID surrenders.

30 new manpower factories are overrun.

[mktours]

great game!
Michael. i think you should play axis 95% russia 105%, that way you could enjoy more challenge. otherwise you are too comfortable to win.

[Michael T]

I estimate that Kamil has lost 300 extra Manpower Pts than would normally be the case over the course of the summer, maybe more. So say 300 MP x 50 x 10 Turns => 150K of troops that have not been recruited. Add these to the 2.75 million in loses means he is very close to an equivalent loss of 3 million men for the 1941 campaign. I don't think this is spin. I think its a valid theory.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: Michael T

I estimate that Kamil has lost 300 extra Manpower Pts than would normally be the case over the course of the summer, maybe more. So say 300 MP x 50 x 10 Turns => 150K of troops that have not been recruited. Add these to the 2.75 million in loses means he is very close to an equivalent loss of 3 million men for the 1941 campaign. I don't think this is spin. I think its a valid theory.

Good #'s, as GHC you do not need to get xxxxxxx KIA.

Manpower centers do the same thing, but you do not lose and troops or resources.

So if you run as SHC your still going to suffer loses one way or the other.

[Balou]

ORIGINAL: Michael T

I estimate that Kamil has lost 300 extra Manpower Pts than would normally be the case over the course of the summer, maybe more. So say 300 MP x 50 x 10 Turns => 150K of troops that have not been recruited. Add these to the 2.75 million in loses means he is very close to an equivalent loss of 3 million men for the 1941 campaign. I don't think this is spin. I think its a valid theory.

Manpower: wouldn't that "West Moscou" hex been worth a try ? Yes it's a level 3 and he may activate reserves, but you can attack from 3 sides, no rivers to cross, and 3 weeks left to adjust forces.

[Michael T]

I considered it. But even with a stack of Engineers and my best ID plus Model my chances of success are slim. Plus I would never hold it in the blizzard. IMO I am better off smashing other hexes I know I can beat. Besides its only worth 16 MP. Also if I attack it the MP will start to evacuate, lessening its value in 42. No, better left as nice cherry to possibly pick in 42.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: Michael T

I considered it. But even with a stack of Engineers and my best ID plus Model my chances of success are slim. Plus I would never hold it in the blizzard. IMO I am better off smashing other hexes I know I can beat. Besides its only worth 16 MP. Also if I attack it the MP will start to evacuate, lessening its value in 42. No, better left as nice cherry to possibly pick in 42.

Double over runs (41 then again in 42)really hurt SHC in long run, another reason I run during blizzard. Someone pointed this out to me long ago and have forgotten their names.

Last long game I took Moscow was vs M60, I did lose it in Blizzard but retook during 42. It crippled his manpower replacement rate for the rest of the game I could out attrition rate him during 1943.You beyond this point alrdy, with a healthy retreat in south MT then retake in 42 summer. You could then easly stay on offensive until June 1943. switch to defensive and hold line easly into 1944 summer. As long as you don't have a brain fart you got a long term minor win.

How and why I came up with the hole retreat 2 hexes in the south thing.

[Balou]

ORIGINAL: Michael T

Plus I would never hold it in the blizzard.

You sure ? IMO better stay/defend in a city hex than in the open. And since you wanna hold a Kalinin-Oka line, I guess you have to stay pretty close to Moscow. But again: in the open.

[Michael T]

It would just get cut off and wiped out. I don't beleive I need to take any great risks in the blizzard. Baring some disaster he should bleed out in 42. His losses in MP and ARM should cripple him.