GJ (Allies) - Mr.Kane (Japan) - The allies declare their defeat

[jeffk3510]

Where is the Madras Police unit? [:-]

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

Where is the Madras Police unit? [:-]

Think it's been left behind when Madras fell... the unit fought bravely but the odds were against it. But we'll remember those great men[:)]

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

As you can see, forts don't mean a great deal under these circumstances.  He's wearing out his army.  The game is giving him little tidbits of optimism that are flattering only to deceive.  Bombay = Stalingrad.

Yes, and binding down a great deal of units far far away from the important places.

From what i can say, the only divisions not involved in India are the 5th (At timor), the 13th (bought out recently) and moving to Palembang, the 53th at Guam and the 54th moving around in the DEI....

We'll do our best to get into the best positions for a future counterattack. His strategy is clear: invest everything in India and forget about the pacific.

[GreyJoy]

But we're not giving up India guys! I still have 540k supplies at Bombay and the Infantry units remain in great shape. It's still a long way to conquer it

[jeffk3510]

ORIGINAL: GreyJoy

ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

Where is the Madras Police unit? [:-]

Think it's been left behind when Madras fell... the unit fought bravely but the odds were against it. But we'll remember those great men[:)]

I think their AV was 0 haha

[Schlemiel]

Look how much HI he's burned in the attack already. He's basically lost a full division in destroyed squads already (probably at least 80k HI worth of stuff), and forts won't start below 1 on any attack, I'm sure. The DMS probable kills are nice for you too.

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: Schlemiel

Look how much HI he's burned in the attack already. He's basically lost a full division in destroyed squads already (probably at least 80k HI worth of stuff), and forts won't start below 1 on any attack, I'm sure. The DMS probable kills are nice for you too.

The forts will stay down cause, between Air and Naval bombings he's keeping the AF and Port damaged every day. However you're right, he's lost more than 600 squads so far during this siege and he's still far from overcoming my Odds. The fact is that the naval bombings rarely hit the Infantry troops, which have grown a lot in terms of Morale and Experience.
...and the day of the counterattack isn't that far....

[Encircled]

Massive Japanese casualties, and a position that gets exposed more and more as time goes on.

Whats not to like as a AFB?

[witpqs]

The losses in squads are big, but what of the disabled squads? How many divisions-worth have been disabled??? [X(]

[Schlemiel]

At least 5 divisions worth of combat squads have been disabled since the resync.

[Cribtop]

Epic effort but doomed to fail. If he had months to burn up your supply and recover squads, maybe. But he does not. Stalingrad indeed.

Is there a path to work your counterattack cross country in a way that avoids being spotted until it's too late and you use fast moving armor to race into Bombay over all exposed hex sides? He loses the whole IJA and Bombay won't be Stalingrad, it will be Barad Dur about five minutes after the ring took a lava bath!

[castor troy]

These attacks at Bombay are just crazy, can't believe an experienced player is doing them at all. No chance to take an urban heavy hex against 2000+ enemy av with that force, he would need 5 or more times as many attacking units and still would shred 3/4 of them. Crazy, nothing but crazy.

[njp72]

Yep, in the end he got there too late.

I would argue you have to blockade Karachi before the Aussies roll up.

The Japanese lack the firepower and the staying power for sieges.

Heroic but doomed, very Japanese

[GreyJoy]

Jun 12, 42

Don't know guys...i'm not so sure anymore....

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Night Naval bombardment of Bombay at 36,24 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson IIIa: 9 damaged
Hudson IIIa: 1 destroyed on ground
Vildebeest III: 1 damaged
Wapiti IIa: 2 damaged
Wirraway: 5 damaged
PBY-5A Catalina: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
CA Ashigara
CA Maya
CL Tatsuta
CL Kuma
CL Abukuma
DD Sagiri
DD Ayanami
DD Inazuma
DD Ikazuchi
DD Yugure
DD Nenohi
DD Hatsuharu
DD Yudachi
DD Harusame
DD Murasame
DD Shigure
DD Shiratsuyu

Allied ground losses:
970 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 6 disabled
Non Combat: 23 destroyed, 61 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 15 disabled
Guns lost 26 (4 destroyed, 22 disabled)
Vehicles lost 26 (10 destroyed, 16 disabled)

Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 44
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 5

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Night Naval bombardment of Bombay at 36,24

Allied aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 3 damaged
Wapiti IIa: 1 destroyed on ground
Wirraway: 3 damaged
Wirraway: 1 destroyed on ground
Hudson IIIa: 3 damaged
Vildebeest III: 1 damaged
Beaufort V: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato
CA Nachi
CA Myoko
CA Chokai
CA Takao
DD Shirayuki
DD Isonami
DD Shirakumo
DD Usugumo
DD Shinonome

Allied ground losses:
867 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Non Combat: 8 destroyed, 65 disabled
Engineers: 6 destroyed, 23 disabled
Guns lost 28 (5 destroyed, 23 disabled)

Manpower hits 1
Fires 299
Airbase hits 13
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 41
Port hits 8
Port supply hits 1

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Morning Air attack on Bombay , at 36,24

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 103 NM, estimated altitude 10,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 32 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb
4 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb

Also attacking 16th Light Cavalry Regiment ...
Also attacking Bombay ...


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Morning Air attack on Bombay , at 36,24

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 100 NM, estimated altitude 15,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 31 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 2 damaged

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet *
Airfield Attack: 2 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Bombay , at 36,24

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 88 NM, estimated altitude 13,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 27 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 22

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hudson IIIa: 3 damaged

Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Bombay , at 36,24

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 119 NM, estimated altitude 12,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 37 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49-Ia Helen x 36
Ki-49-IIa Helen x 56

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49-Ia Helen: 8 damaged
Ki-49-IIa Helen: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
PBY-5A Catalina: 1 damaged
Mitchell PR.II: 1 destroyed on ground
Vildebeest III: 5 damaged
Beaufort V: 1 damaged
Wirraway: 4 damaged
Wirraway: 1 destroyed on ground

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
31 x Ki-49-IIa Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb
36 x Ki-49-Ia Helen bombing from 10000 feet
Airfield Attack: 4 x 250 kg GP Bomb



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Afternoon Air attack on Bombay , at 36,24

Weather in hex: Light rain

Raid detected at 40 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 11 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIa Tojo x 36

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x Ki-44-IIa Tojo sweeping at 31000 feet



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Ground combat at Bombay (36,24)

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 177786 troops, 3141 guns, 1287 vehicles, Assault Value = 3389

Defending force 105642 troops, 1166 guns, 1845 vehicles, Assault Value = 2534

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese adjusted assault: 1585

Allied adjusted defense: 10293

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 6 (fort level 0)

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
8504 casualties reported
Squads: 92 destroyed, 660 disabled
Non Combat: 20 destroyed, 98 disabled
Engineers: 27 destroyed, 96 disabled
Guns lost 91 (15 destroyed, 76 disabled)
Vehicles lost 236 (76 destroyed, 160 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
1247 casualties reported
Squads: 16 destroyed, 111 disabled
Non Combat: 4 destroyed, 68 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 50 disabled
Guns lost 62 (3 destroyed, 59 disabled)
Vehicles lost 33 (9 destroyed, 24 disabled)

Assaulting units:
1st Tank Regiment
38th Division
2nd Division
Imperial Guards Division
16th Division
4th Division
14th Tank Regiment
48th Division
18th Division
6th Guards Division
15th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
8th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Medium Field Artillery Regiment
1st Hvy.Artillery Regiment
14th Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
10th Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
2nd Mortar Battalion
10th RF Gun Battalion
23rd AA Regiment
3rd Ind. Mountain Gun Regiment
5th Mortar Battalion
2nd Ind.Art.Mortar Battalion
3rd Mortar Battalion
3rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
9th Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
8th RF Gun Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
18th Medium Field Artillery Regiment
Southern Army
6th Field Construction Battalion
9th RF Gun Battalion
3rd Ind.Hvy.Art. Battalion
20th Ind. Mtn Gun Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
21st Army

Defending units:
Bombay Fortress
26th Indian Division
20th Indian Division
7th Indian Division
50th Tank Brigade
42nd Cavalry Regiment
7th Australian Division
23rd Indian Division
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
150th RAC Regiment
255th Armoured Brigade
84th Indian Brigade
Waziristan Division
25th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Bombay Construction Battalion
2/2 AIF Pioneer Battalion
2nd Hyderabad Base Force
Pathan Construction Battalion
2nd Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
IV Indian Corps
6th Medium Regiment
24th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
221 Group Base Force
3rd Hyderabad Base Force
225 Group RAF
43rd Construction Regiment
1st Madras Construction Battalion
208th RAF Adv Base Force
6th Heavy AA Regiment
20th Indian Mountain Gun Regiment
1st Hyderabad Base Force
223 RAF Base Force
2/1st Med Regiment
46th Construction Regiment
21st Light AA Regiment
1st Indian Coastal Artillery Regiment
1st South India Base Force
India Command
2/11th Field Regiment
222 Group Base Force
102nd RN Base Force
308th Base Group
2/9th Field Regiment
Southern Command
Sikh Construction Battalion

[GreyJoy]

ORIGINAL: Cribtop

Epic effort but doomed to fail. If he had months to burn up your supply and recover squads, maybe. But he does not. Stalingrad indeed.

Is there a path to work your counterattack cross country in a way that avoids being spotted until it's too late and you use fast moving armor to race into Bombay over all exposed hex sides? He loses the whole IJA and Bombay won't be Stalingrad, it will be Barad Dur about five minutes after the ring took a lava bath!

No, i don't think there's a path to arrive there unseen... but, actually, if i manage to keep my flanks safe and use those 3000 AVs now massing at Karachi to threaten his flanks i think he'll be forced to abbandon the effort... but i still need some time

[Cribtop]

IMHO the next attack will show the future. Forts at 0 but it was still 1:6. If the next attack is still bad odds you should be ok. If it moves up to 1:3 or 1:2 you may have to sweat a bit. I still think your counter will force withdrawal before Bombay is seriously threatened, however.

[Schlemiel]

Does he have any ports close enough to keep up that bombardment pace either? I assume he's got AKEs to resupply, but that's a lot of bombardments.

[witpqs]

It looks like the key factor on his side is now: does he have enough battle worthy troops to replace the casualties? On your side the key factor is, if he does have enough troops, can your relief forces get there quickly enough?

[GreyJoy]

Jun 14, 1942

Two quiet days. The 3 american Carriers managed to accomplish their operation near Scoodra, drawing the attention of the KB who sprinted North (burning fuel) from Colombo, just to find empty seas... kind of a psyco op[:D].
In the meanwhile the Wasp has arrived and now i have 3 CVs and 1 CVE operating in the pacific....
At Bombay he's resting...
yes, he has Goa, with lots of AKEs to be used as a replenishment port.... very close... but consider that my INF units do not get touched by his BBs...
And i'm not that far away from orchestrating the counterattack

The 27th US Division arrived at Cape Town, along with many american support units. The Whole RN is there with them.

In China he's stopped his Attacks...we may have statlemated him there...maybe!

[GreyJoy]

June 15-16, 1942

8 Japanese CAs just bombed Bombay, causing a lot of damage, but the BBs didn't come and the regular land attack didn't happen. nstead, 28 units moved out of Bombay![X(], leaving behind 6 units for 150,000 men... i think he got way overstacked and is trying to reform his armies in the right way, under the SL rule...
However the americans, even if they aren't helping directly their british cousins in their struggle to keep India alive, aren't sitting on their hands (is this an understandable english?):
the 40th Division, along with a Marine Def unit, a base force and a marine air HQ, just landed at Tabiutea, supported by 2 SAGs, a CVTF formed around 2 CVs and several support ships. 150 mines have been already placed and the ACMs are already coming. 20 subs are screening, along with 10 PTs.

occupying the right positions.

In the North, Addak has been built up a lot, and now Attu will be transformed into a big base for subs.

At Horn Island just arrived a recon unit. Will start look around the eastern NG...