What Book Are You Reading at the moment?

[Hotschi]

Just finished Saburo Ienaga's Pacific War;

started today with Peter Thompson, Pacific Fury, and am still not done with Amphibians Came To Conquer Vol.2

[SLAAKMAN]

QUASI-SILLY W1-SEMI-NEWBLETTE,
Just one thing SLAAK.

So you invest all this time, all this money, all this effort, into getting the Czar overthrown. No mean feat, after all, there had been plenty of goes before. BUT this time, with Lenin and Trotsky in hand, the Illuminati succeeded.

Now. Wouldn't you think, that when this upstart Stalin came along, and threatened the men the Illuminati had spent years and millions on - the Illuminati's own "agents" - that they would have got a tad concerned?

But no. They allowed their plan to potentially go down the toilet by allowing Stalin free reign, even though he wasn't one of theirs and at that stage no one knew what he would or wouldn't do.

Strange....

Roth Schilds primary goals were achieved. They succeeded in killing the Czar and his family, filching the Czars treasury estimated at more than $300 billion in 1918 dollars (worth unknown trillions today), imposed their Utopian vision of Socialism on Russia and killed off millions of people in cold blood who were considered politically incorrect. Even though they lost the power struggle between Stalin & Trotsky, they still made bank and eventually Stalin collaborated anyway out necessity. All else was just gravy and when China fell they hoped play the East & West against each other which is exactly what happened. Now their Utopian model is China partnered up with India to solidify the UN's authority into a global government. In spite of the many obstacles, they are achieving this goal right now.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN

QUASI-SILLY W1-SEMI-NEWBLETTE,
Just one thing SLAAK.

So you invest all this time, all this money, all this effort, into getting the Czar overthrown. No mean feat, after all, there had been plenty of goes before. BUT this time, with Lenin and Trotsky in hand, the Illuminati succeeded.

Now. Wouldn't you think, that when this upstart Stalin came along, and threatened the men the Illuminati had spent years and millions on - the Illuminati's own "agents" - that they would have got a tad concerned?

But no. They allowed their plan to potentially go down the toilet by allowing Stalin free reign, even though he wasn't one of theirs and at that stage no one knew what he would or wouldn't do.

Strange....

Roth Schilds primary goals were achieved.

warspite1

Well that was lucky wasn't it? Sounds like the mob that planned for the overthrow of the Czar - and just as important, what came after - were the same trust-to-luck buffoons that planned 9/11 [8|]

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: SLAAKMAN

QUASI-SILLY W1-SEMI-NEWBLETTE,
Just one thing SLAAK.

So you invest all this time, all this money, all this effort, into getting the Czar overthrown. No mean feat, after all, there had been plenty of goes before. BUT this time, with Lenin and Trotsky in hand, the Illuminati succeeded.

Now. Wouldn't you think, that when this upstart Stalin came along, and threatened the men the Illuminati had spent years and millions on - the Illuminati's own "agents" - that they would have got a tad concerned?

But no. They allowed their plan to potentially go down the toilet by allowing Stalin free reign, even though he wasn't one of theirs and at that stage no one knew what he would or wouldn't do.

Strange....

Roth Schilds primary goals were achieved.

warspite1

Well that was lucky wasn't it? Sounds like the mob that planned for the overthrow of the Czar - and just as important, what came after - were the same trust-to-luck buffoons that planned 9/11 [8|]

Gary Seven intervened.

[Chijohnaok2]

ORIGINAL: Ranger33

If anyone is interested, two of the Stackpole books are currently free for Kindle. Apparently one or two books in the series is free each month according to z1812 over on the Battlefront forum. (credit for the find goes to him)

http://www.amazon.com/Fire-Eastern-Front-Experiences-ebook/dp/B00BZBJ91O/ref=sr_1_26?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1374274035&sr=1-26&keywords=stackpole+military

http://www.amazon.com/12th-SS-Division-Stackpole-ebook/dp/B00BZBJ8WY/ref=sr_1_37?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1374274165&sr=1-37&keywords=stackpole+military

If you are in the UK go to the amazon.uk site and find them through there.

When I check each link they appear highly discounted but not free.
One is about $9 and the other is about $11.

[SLAAKMAN]

warspite1

Well that was lucky wasn't it? Sounds like the mob that planned for the overthrow of the Czar - and just as important, what came after - were the same trust-to-luck buffoons that planned 9/11.

Yes. Rockefeller disclosed this plan to Aaron Russo in 2000. Naturally you wont believe it since as Twain pointed out, "Its easier to fool people than it is to convince them that theyve been fooled." Of course no one would believe that crooks actually do run the world....duh.


Rockefeller Reveals 9 11 FRAUD and New World Order to Aaron Russo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuinaIm-kd4

[Ranger33]

Ah, looks like the sale ended! They were free when I posted. I'll try to be quicker on the draw next time.

ORIGINAL: chijohnaok

When I check each link they appear highly discounted but not free.
One is about $9 and the other is about $11.

[JWW]

Hawk Quest by Robert Lyndon. Set shortly after the Norman conquest of England. Starts in England, follows a group that wanders on a particular quest to Scotland, Iceland, Greenland, Norway, the land of the Rus, and then I'm not through yet. I won't say any more in case anyone else is reading or wants to read it. One of those cheap Kindle novels but pretty good. I got it as one of their daily deals.

[Ranger33]

Two more free Kindle books! Hopefully this deal lasts long enough for people to see it.

http://www.amazon.com/Armored-Bears-German-Division-ebook/dp/B00CYMZEIK/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1374845867&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Thunderbolt-Wizard-Stackpole-ebook/dp/B00CXUTZHE/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1374845867&sr=1-2

[fodder]

ORIGINAL: Ranger33

Two more free Kindle books! Hopefully this deal lasts long enough for people to see it.

http://www.amazon.com/Armored-Bears-German-Division-ebook/dp/B00CYMZEIK/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1374845867&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Thunderbolt-Wizard-Stackpole-ebook/dp/B00CXUTZHE/ref=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1374845867&sr=1-2

Thank you Ranger33. [&o]

Just downloaded Armored bears. [:)]

[SLAAKMAN]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/ma ... warned.htm

Hunter Thompson was working on WTC collapse story before mysterious sudden death, warned he'd be 'suicided'

Total 9/11 Info/Prison Planet | March 2 2005

Toronto Globe and Mail February 26, 2005:

Hunter telephoned me on Feb. 19, the night before his death. He sounded scared. It wasn't always easy to understand what he said, particularly over the phone, he mumbled, yet when there was something he really wanted you to understand, you did. He'd been working on a story about the World Trade Center attacks and had stumbled across what he felt was hard evidence showing the towers had been brought down not by the airplanes that flew into them but by explosive charges set off in their foundations. Now he thought someone was out to stop him publishing it: "They're gonna make it look like suicide," he said. "I know how these bastards think . . ."

Hunter S. Thompson ... was indeed working on such a story.

Now check out this February 25 Associated Press story about Thompson's death. Sounds a lot like a professional hit with a silencer:

"I was on the phone with him, he set the receiver down and he did it. I heard the clicking of the gun," Anita Thompson told the Aspen Daily News in Friday's editions.

She said her husband had asked her to come home from a health club so they could work on his weekly ESPN column...

Thompson said she heard a loud, muffled noise, but didn't know what had happened. "I was waiting for him to get back on the phone," she said.

(Her account to Rocky Mountain News reporter Jeff Kass is slightly different: "I did not hear any bang," she told Kass. She added that Thompson's son, who was in the house at the time, believed that a book had fallen when he heard the shot, according to Kass' report.)

Mack White sums up the questions well:
Thompson's family says he was not depressed, nor was he in enough to pain to kill himself. In fact, by all reports, he was quite happy. He was talking on the phone to his wife, getting ready to work on his column, when he decided it would be wise to kill himself, so that he could go out (we are told) while "still at the top of his form," even though this would mean not finishing his column or his expose on 9/11 (potentially the most important thing he would ever write) (?)...

RELATED: Hunter S. Thompson Suicide Story Changes

This account says Thompson killed himself while sitting in a chair on his typewriter and yet the original account tells us that Thompson shot himself while talking to his wife on the phone in the kitchen. Why has the story changed andwhat is the significance of the word typed on the paper in light of the fact that Thompson said he would be 'suicided' before being able to release a major story on explosives bringing down the twin towers?

RELATED: Hunter S. Thompson thought 9/11 an inside job

[Aurelian]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/c ... 354139.stm

http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.338 ... ?locale=en

[SLAAKMAN]

9/11 Free Fall-- Robert Griffin on the Psychology of 9/11 Truth Denial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzjRgJ2LaBE

[SLAAKMAN]

In a new study from psychologists based in both the United Kingdom and United States, researchers discovered that individuals who questioned official government reporting on events appear to be much saner and rational than those who simply believe official news without question, or rely upon media ‘talking points’ for their complete source.

Conspiracy Theorists vs. Obamabots:

The most recent study was published on July 8th by psychologists Michael J. Wood and Karen M. Douglas of the University of Kent (UK). Entitled “What about Building 7? A social psychological study of online discussion of 9/11 conspiracy theories,” the study compared “conspiracist” (pro-conspiracy theory) and “conventionalist” (anti-conspiracy) comments at news websites.
The authors were surprised to discover that it is now more conventional to leave so-called conspiracist comments than conventionalist ones: “Of the 2174 comments collected, 1459 were coded as conspiracist and 715 as conventionalist.” In other words, among people who comment on news articles, those who disbelieve government accounts of such events as 9/11 and the JFK assassination outnumber believers by more than two to one. That means it is the pro-conspiracy commenters who are expressing what is now the conventional wisdom, while the anti-conspiracy commenters are becoming a small, beleaguered minority. – Press TV

Thanks to the information age and the internet, people have extensive sources through which they can read, research, and investigate news stories outside the partial information usually provided by the mainstream media. During the 1950′s through the 70′s, there was a greater trust factor between the American people and broadcast news, and anchors like Walter Cronkite were considered some of the most trusted men on television.

However, as the internet began to grow and consolidate reports and research from credible sources like scientists, academia, and even citizen reporters, it became much more difficult for the government and mainstream media to control information, and the paradigm known as Conspiracy Theory fully took off.

Besides the JFK assassination, the revelation that Americans were lied to about the Gulf of Tonkin, which was the key false flag to usher in the Vietnam War escalation, established credibility for dissenters of the official party line, where now we understand that there is usually much more to a story than what is doled out to the public.

The validation that conspiracy theorists may be more sane than their counterparts who readily believe anything put before them could come from the fact that to be credible, conspiratorialists must have more information, backed with irrefutable evidence, and make a rational case to the public to justify their concerns. Those who simply believe the official story only have to fall back on the straw man argument that the source is the government, and that our government would never lie to us.

With all the credentialed professionals, well versed in the fields of investigation, academia, and science coming out over the past two decades with rational credible arguments that the official stories regarding 9/11, President Obama’s eligibility, and even recently regarding the slaying of the Libyan Ambassador in Benghazi, trusting in what government officials, or media that has strong ties to the government, is not only irrational, but may lead to a much worse scenario if people dont have the ability to distinguish between credible information, and purposeful disinformation.

Aurelian

Orwellian = 1984. He loves Big Brother.

[Agathosdaimon]

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/c ... 354139.stm

http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.338 ... ?locale=en

i like the links - it is an interesting thing to ponder 'conspiracy theories' i think they show something in our human nature - our mind is always forming its connections and the narratives can become so overwhelmingly logical that evidence itself or the lack there of all points in that direction and then it doesnt take much for other paranoids folk to start feeding their own narratives into the mix and so quantity passes for quality etc etc. These things however like urban legends sometimes seem to play out in the world and it is hard, perhaps impossible to know what came first the fact or the fable.

It is the wonders, fears, hopes etc that our minds cast into the abyss of everything beyond our present, be it the past or future both so inaccessible and we all want to know truth and so the allure of conspiracy theories is that it promises to be 'ultimate truth' and for people who get hooked on them it is a pleasure to feel like you know something that the masses don't. But its also something of a cassandra complex.

Of course it would be naive to think their arent the dealings by powerful people, companies going on behind the scenes of the news we read, (news for which there seems to be ever fewer independent real journalists and serious investigators) i dont think much of why the world is the way it is would be without clandestine and or unreported dealings with only the interests of power and money for those parties involved. But it seems impossible to sort through all the supposed truths to find actual truth and there may not be any actual truth it all, we may be constantly just making it up as we go along.

With 9/11 there are things that seem odd when looking back on it and i remember reading a book at the time that was looking at the unanswered questions about the airforce response - i cant recall the details and its seems that whatever happened it is taken the world on a course that we cannot easily come back from. Again information and other unanswered things surface and then disappear and one is left wondering what came of it, but then all the other distractions of life pour in. Its frustrating, and we should always be questioning things, but also be wary of just any supposed conspiracy theory that conveniently comes along.

At the moment i am picking up and continuing a book which always sets my mind on fire - Friedrich Nietzsches 'Human all too Human' (Menschliches Allzumenschliches).

[SLAAKMAN]

Agathosdaimon

Hello. Do me a little favor please....try not to speak. My platypus is trying to sleep & all that mindless gibberish is disturbing him. Thanks.

[Aurelian]

ORIGINAL: Agathosdaimon

ORIGINAL: Aurelian

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/c ... 354139.stm

http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.338 ... ?locale=en

i like the links - it is an interesting thing to ponder 'conspiracy theories' i think they show something in our human nature - our mind is always forming its connections and the narratives can become so overwhelmingly logical that evidence itself or the lack there of all points in that direction and then it doesnt take much for other paranoids folk to start feeding their own narratives into the mix and so quantity passes for quality etc etc. These things however like urban legends sometimes seem to play out in the world and it is hard, perhaps impossible to know what came first the fact or the fable.

It is the wonders, fears, hopes etc that our minds cast into the abyss of everything beyond our present, be it the past or future both so inaccessible and we all want to know truth and so the allure of conspiracy theories is that it promises to be 'ultimate truth' and for people who get hooked on them it is a pleasure to feel like you know something that the masses don't. But its also something of a cassandra complex.

Of course it would be naive to think their arent the dealings by powerful people, companies going on behind the scenes of the news we read, (news for which there seems to be ever fewer independent real journalists and serious investigators) i dont think much of why the world is the way it is would be without clandestine and or unreported dealings with only the interests of power and money for those parties involved. But it seems impossible to sort through all the supposed truths to find actual truth and there may not be any actual truth it all, we may be constantly just making it up as we go along.

With 9/11 there are things that seem odd when looking back on it and i remember reading a book at the time that was looking at the unanswered questions about the airforce response - i cant recall the details and its seems that whatever happened it is taken the world on a course that we cannot easily come back from. Again information and other unanswered things surface and then disappear and one is left wondering what came of it, but then all the other distractions of life pour in. Its frustrating, and we should always be questioning things, but also be wary of just any supposed conspiracy theory that conveniently comes along.

At the moment i am picking up and continuing a book which always sets my mind on fire - Friedrich Nietzsches 'Human all too Human' (Menschliches Allzumenschliches).

One way to sort through it all is to apply critical analysis to these theories. They can't hold up under it. And you get responses such as the ones above.

An example of critical analysis by Neilster: tm.asp?m=3366579&mpage=2&key=�

[SLAAKMAN]

Orwellian,

One way to sort through it all is to apply critical analysis to these theories. They can't hold up under it. And you get responses such as the ones above.

You havent analyzed anything and it wouldnt matter to you if you did. Youve already made up your puny mind.

An example of critical analysis by Neilster: tm.asp?m=3366579&mpage=2&key=

Thats no analysis. He didnt answer any questions. He only posed irrelevant urinalysis, similar to yours.

[SLAAKMAN]

[SLAAKMAN]

Proof Of The Illuminati

The society of the Illuminati was founded in Bavaria in the 1770s, operating covertly within the unknowing veil of honest Masonry. The Illuminati's goals were the overthrow of all government and religion, by any means at their disposal. Their methods included theft, embezzlement, murder, and assassination. Deceit, secrecy, and subterfuge were their common tools. Linked with the Jacobians in Paris, and appearing in numerous countries under the cover of other secret societies, the Illuminati formented the terrors of the French revolution and other overthrow of the Swiss Republic, causing destruction and death across Europe. The sect was uncovered and outlawed in 1790, which only drove it to greater secrecy. The poison of the Illuminati was announced and decried by the French Jesuit Abbe Barruel and the eminent English scientist Doctor Robison. These two men, so different in character, politics, and religion, had reached the same conclusion about the evils and effects of Illuminism. For their efforts, both were defamed and ridiclued, their characters questioned. Seth Payson's Proof of the Illuminati draws from Barruel, Robison, and an array of other sources to show that rather than being stamped out, the Illuminati's pernicious influence was actively spreading its noxious decay. Originally written in 1802, this book still has a stark warning message that rings of truth to this day.