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ORIGINAL: Walloc

Eh, Terje didnt that happen to u on the Crimea too a few games ago?
Those evil freezes [;)]

Big Q, can they trace supply across the lakes?


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ORIGINAL: bigbaba

nasty surprise again. i guess that means general retreat in the north terje? not worth attacking such high CV RC.

Cannot. There is no line to fall back to in the north yet. For now I am able to push them back, but for how long, I do nto know.



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You are end 1943, may be you should shorten your front both north (exit Estonia) and South 'fall back quietly behind the Dniepr)
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ORIGINAL: STEF78

You are end 1943, may be you should shorten your front both north (exit Estonia) and South 'fall back quietly behind the Dniepr)

The problem is that there is no available line in the north yet. If I fall back immediately, I will give away too much territory too quickly I am afraid, and the rivers will be gone before spring....


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Turn 133 aka The Solid Red Army

Overall
The USSR attacks in force once more, and score some retreats. They also try to flood my defences in the north. Well, my divisions still have teeth, so we fight back. The hope now is to be able to fight a delaying action long enough for the next line to be finished, AND for spring to arrive.
61 USSR attacks resulted in 35 helds, 1 scouted and 25 retreats, while our 18 attacks gave a result of 5 helds, 11 retreats, 1 rout and 1 shatter. I now need 2.5 : 1 + deliberate for any hope of a successful attack :(

Losses
USSR : 134.000 troops, 1.942 guns, 909 AFVs, 408 AC.
Axis : 70.000 troops, 1.089 guns, 233 AFVs, 155 AC.

Partisans
13 out of 16 are killed.

German Pools
Manpower : 140.968
Vehicles : 230.303
Armaments : 389.871
Hiwi : 7
An early spring would be nice...




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ORIGINAL: Walloc

Eh, Terje didnt that happen to u on the Crimea too a few games ago?
Those evil freezes [;)]

Big Q, can they trace supply across the lakes?


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The impassible lines are passable during freeze and can have supply traced through them.
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ORIGINAL: Disgruntled Veteran

The impassible lines are passable during freeze and can have supply traced through them.

Yeah so it seems. Guess I need to buy physical versions of the games I buy. E-manuals are not for me. Only read impassable, and skipped by it [:D]
Only impassable terrain I've encountered irl has tended to be even more so during winter, aka impassable AND slippery [:D]



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Turn 134 aka The Annoying Red Army

Overall
Another turn with a lot of attacks, the most severe setback came in the LG area, where our line broke. The north is now blown open. Delaying actions is what needs to be done now, and I am scrounging the front to see what I can send north.
49 USSR attacks resulted in 26 helds, 1 scouted and 22 retreats, while our 23 attacks gave a result of 6 helds, 14 retreats and 3 routs.

Losses
USSR : 124.000 troops, 1.796 guns, 661 AFVs, 425 AC.
Axis : 78.000 troops, 1.322 guns, 344 AFVs, 124 AC.
The exchange rate dropped in all categories save AC from last turn. That is NOT the way we want to see the numbers swing.

German units destroyed
The 607th SP Light Flak Battery and the 702nd SP Infantry Gun Company were wiped out this turn.

Partisans
7 out of 13 are killed.

German Pools
Manpower : 148.039
Vehicles : 222.382
Armaments : 363.262
Hiwi : 2

Main concern
Can I delay the USSR in the north until mud sets in?




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NO the tank Corp and Mech Corp are silliness.

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Turn 135 aka The Backhand hmmmm thouch...

Overall
As expected, the 3 divisions that was partially surrounded last turn was completely surrounded this turn, and Sean decided to try to drive to the Baltic. He failed with the latter, and we delivered a tiny backhand blow by sealing off one of his Mech Corps. Main concern in the north atm is the low low low CV on a lot of my infantry (1->4 CV units). I need mud soon. Really soon!
Furthermore, the frontline is starting to look like it has been attacked by a pack of woodpeckers, with holes pretty much everywhere. So this turn I decided to withdraw from Zaporozhye, and we will leave Dnepropetrovsk next turn. This will shorten the frontline by a total of 6 hexes, and free up 8 divisions. Not a lot, but it should help us overall. I hope...
58 USSR attacks resulted in 26 helds, 1 scouted, 30 retreats and 1 rout. Our 23 counterattacks gave a result of 18 retreats and 5 routs.

Losses
USSR : 128.000 troops, 1.777 guns, 576 AFVs, 363 AC.
Axis : 78.000 troops, 1.489 guns, 306 AFVs, 77 AC.

Partisans
After killing 8, we are left with 4. Guess that we will not have to worry about these guys for too long...

German Pools
Manpower : 166.844
Vehicles : 213.146
Armaments : 343.302
Hiwi : 7




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stsrting to look rather grim, how soon before that defense line on the Dauga is ready for you to use?
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Probably too long :( And it will not stop the USSR with winter conditions. I need mud to be able to hold.
 
 
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Turn 136

Overall
The 3 surrounded divisions were killed off, but we managed to retake some terrain in the north. How long I will be able to keep pushing back the USSR advances, I do not know, but for now I am not too worried about a major USSR breakthrough up there. In the south we keep falling back slowly, and as always we keep praying for mud to arrive sooner rather than later.
42 USSR attacks ended with 22 helds, 19 retreats and 1 surrender. Our 23 attacks did not fare too well, and gave a result of 8 helds, 13 retreats and 2 routs.

Losses
Who knows?

Partisans
3 remain after we kill off 6.

German Pools
Manpower : 145.845
Vehicles : 200.141
Armaments : 310.113
Hiwi : 7




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take the cut off 18th army divisions in north out of there by sea transsport talllin--->>konigsberg ?
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ORIGINAL: juret

take the cut off 18th army divisions in north out of there by sea transsport talllin--->>konigsberg ?

They are not cut off, they are marching to safety, and most of them are already between the USSR and Berlin :)


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Turn 137 aka Why did they stop

Overall
All of a sudden the USSR is no longer attacking in the north. This makes me nervous. What is Sean up to now? My recons indicates that his mechanized corps are being pulled back, and that makes me wonder if he intends to rail them elsewhere.
We keep pulling back slowly in the south, and then we go "*sigh* yikes, this is not good...Oh my" when we look at our pools (not the one below, but the ones on the screenie).
39 USSR attacks this turn, for a result of 21 helds, 16 retreats and 2 routs (seems the celebration during New Years Eve really did not work wonders for my units. CV is dropping rapidly now). Our 15 attacks ended with 1 held, 12 retreats and 2 routs.

Losses
USSR : 109.000 troops, 1.580 guns, 131 AFVs, 436 AC.
Axis : 75.000 troops, 1.387 guns, 364 AFVs, 129 AC.

German units destroyed
The 703rd SP Infantry Gun Company is wiped out.

German units disbanded
2 Fort Zones.

Partisans
5 remain after we kill off 4.

German Pools
Manpower : 145.641
Vehicles : 188.954
Armaments : 282.129
Hiwi : 341




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I'm sure that hitting a T-34 with a 50mm mortar would do a lot of damage ..

If, that is, you physically hit the T-34 with the mortar launcher, at least you might scratch the paintwork


Looks like you've still got a decent amount of space to operate in. Do you get some powerful units as reinforcements? If so, that might at least give you the chance to cull the Soviet truck pool by bouncing over-extended tanks etc?
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Terje,

You still have a lot of space to trade for time and are doing well enough, all things considered. I'm sure you'll be building that Great Redoubt in Germany proper. He still has a lot of nasty terrain to get through and I'm thinking you will hold him off. A draw, I think, and considering your '41, not a bad outcome at all. Hang in there!

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ORIGINAL: loki100

I'm sure that hitting a T-34 with a 50mm mortar would do a lot of damage ..

If, that is, you physically hit the T-34 with the mortar launcher, at least you might scratch the paintwork


Looks like you've still got a decent amount of space to operate in. Do you get some powerful units as reinforcements? If so, that might at least give you the chance to cull the Soviet truck pool by bouncing over-extended tanks etc?

Hehe, well, then I want my 6k mortars placed in one division. Should be able to carpetbomb anything moving in its direction [:D]

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ORIGINAL: Oloren

Terje,

You still have a lot of space to trade for time and are doing well enough, all things considered. I'm sure you'll be building that Great Redoubt in Germany proper. He still has a lot of nasty terrain to get through and I'm thinking you will hold him off. A draw, I think, and considering your '41, not a bad outcome at all. Hang in there!

Oloren

A draw is doable I think, but I think I need to hold him more or less where I am until mud. If I do that, I doubt he will get to Berlin. And I learnt a thing or two in our games, so I do not intend to allow Rumania to be flipped as easily this time [:D]


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