Bring me the head of Diego Garcia...and the Mayor of Addu Atoll too!

[zuluhour]

Perhaps Sponge Boob and Patrick could use better maps.....

[Cap Mandrake]

Theoretically, we could put 3 USMC regiments ashore at Naha in 7 d with no penalty but we aren't ready yet.

Massachusetts and North Carolina will be ready in about 17d. We would have Wasp (without the April '43 AAA upgrade) and Yorktown and Long Island but no other CVE's ready. Washington is also active. Colorado would be available for bombardment duties in theater by then. Maybe Maryland too.

One problem is I'm not sure if we will have Aparri by then. Altimonan could stage the older model B-24 for a raid on Naha at extreme range. Vigan could host B-24D1/D but is still level 3.

We also have zero intel on Naha and it is a fairly obvious route to the home islands.

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: zuluhour

Perhaps Sponge Boob and Patrick could use better maps.....

I'm not exactly sure but it is possible that Sponge Bob would be attracted to Bebe Rebozo instead.

Anyway, nice perky contours on the map!

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

A newborn is a "serious disease".

Due to tuition rates, a newborn is a serious disease.[:'(]

More like a plague. In the positive sense, I mean.[;)]

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: Disco Duck

Hey Cap'n. Has California discovered the impervious cover tax yet?
My sister in Ohio is paying $15 per month right now. It is base on how much of your property prevents the water from soaking into the ground.[X(]

Serves the greedy, impervious Ohio landowners right! I say SOAK the baaaahstards.

[Cap Mandrake]

Speaking of water soaking into the ground, the county has a plan to recharge the aquifers by letting water percolate down the big creek behind our building. When the water is running it springs to life with herons and water fowl and fish and insects in days. Amazing how fast the transition is. Then, when they turn the water off, it turns into a brown fire hazard and hobo convention in about 2 days so they spray it with Agent Orange about 4 times a year and bulldoze everything.

What the county doesn't know is Hmong families wade out there when the water is running and pick wild water chestnuts. I tend not to order anything with water chestnuts in restaurants around here.

[Cap Mandrake]

Emergency at Port Blair. I think the lads will throw in the towel with the next Jap attack.

Ideas:

1) Pound the Hell out them next turn with a ground attack at 7-8K feet with the heavies in daylight.

2) Drive off whatever they have there. Maybe Kalk could detach from the transports and head back in ahead of the transports.

3) Load up LSI(L) Empire Battleaxe with supplies in amphib mode and send her in. I think she could unload in one turn. Either that or send in her in with more infantry. I doubt she could hold a full brigade, maybe a Bn equivalent?

4) Do we have a CA that could do a night bombardment?

[poodlebrain]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: poodlebrain

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

I realize this may be hard to believe but the federal Family Medical Leave Act form is actually more confusing and filled with more worthless buraucratic doubletalk than the Alterantive Minimum Tax form.

Californians shouldn't complain about the Alternative Minimum Tax since it is largely a self-inflicted wound due to the high state and local taxes you voluntarily pay for the privilege of living in California. Californians love the Alternative Minimum Tax so much you have your own version. Of course Jerry Brown needs the money so he can keep paying all those prison guards.

My recollection is nobody asked for my permission on the AMT or on the 10% marginal tax rate in California.

I tried to fight the Franchise Tax Board once. I even had my own "ombudswoman". Unfortunately for me, the ombudswoman sounded just like my "case specialist" on the phone. They kicked my ass, the *******. [:)]

You are completely correct about the prison guards union. They and the teacher's unions literally run California government now.

Having similar recollections about California taxes is one of the reasons I had to leave for the opportunity to work in Las Vegas. Sacramento is just too dangerous a laboratory of democracy.

I'm convinced every FTB employee is a rogue agent out to enforce their own interpretation of the law. Back in 1989 I had a client who sold a resort it had developed, in Hawaii, for a substantial gain. Due to vagaries in the way California and Hawaii defined business income we took the position that the client was not liable for tax on the gain to either state. The FTB agent who was auditing the client refused to accept that such an "unfair" outcome was intended or desirable. Therefore, she attempted to assess California income tax on non-business income wholly allocable to Hawaii. It took almost 3 years before the FTB gave up on the issue. Still the professional fees the client paid were but a fraction of the tax California sought.

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Disco Duck

Hey Cap'n. Has California discovered the impervious cover tax yet?
My sister in Ohio is paying $15 per month right now. It is base on how much of your property prevents the water from soaking into the ground.[X(]

When I first saw "impervious cover tax", I thought they meant the latex variety.
I was pretty impressed with your sister ringing up $15 a month until you mentioned the ground![:D]

[Itdepends]

Capt there's no point bringing in more infantry (mouths to feed) unless you're boys have already started eating legs and are down to one each. Better off bringing in the supplies. Yes she should be able to unload in 1 day.

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: Itdepends

Capt there's no point bringing in more infantry (mouths to feed) unless you're boys have already started eating legs and are down to one each. Better off bringing in the supplies. Yes she should be able to unload in 1 day.

Well, perhaps rather than part of a brigade we send in parts from the brigade (wings and thighs) and some Barbecue sauce.

[zuluhour]

Is this what you call deliciously funny?

[Cap Mandrake]

Speaking of charred animal flesh, can you imagine the first Neanderthal who discovered barbecued meat? Dude could open a chain of restaurants all over Europe as long as he didn't give away the secret.


Waiter: Our special tonight is filet of free range forest bison with a hint of sea salt. How would you like that cooked?


Diner, 5ft 8, 230 lbs, very hirsute with massive brow line, wearing rabbit loincloth, smells like shit (the diner not the loincloth, well, now that I think about it, probably both):

<begins drooling> Uhhhh..glok, glok

Waiter: Ah, still twitching! A splendid choice! I'll bring you a bone scraper so that you may freshen yourself for dinner.

[Cap Mandrake]

USMC infantry planning for Okinawa. 3 regiments ready in 17d. 24th Marine is still in San Diego and we don't have the points to bring her out. Miyako-jima is a little rock halfway between Batan Is and Okinawa that can be built up to an airfield to protect shipping between the PI and Okinawa. Really, 5th and 7th Marine should be pulled out of line and 1st Marine Div reformed but I think the line at Manira would be too weak. Can't have JJ breaking loose and have 2 Mongol Hordes on Luzon.

[Cap Mandrake]

US Army infantry prepping for Okinawa. 161st IR will be ready. 32nd ID is still embarking at Port Hedrand and will need about 25 days to be ready. 37th ID is also prepping but had to be sent to Iba to bolster the base there and is still strung out in transports.

MacArthur, SWPAC, will be ready in about 17 d. He is waiting for some waders from the Cabelos catalogue. He isn't really in charge of anything, it's just that SWPAC has 120 naval support. [:)]

[Cap Mandrake]

*********SWPAC HQ, Iba, PI, May 3, 1943(c)************


Gen. Douglas A. MacArthur, winner of CMOH: <on phone> No, no. Chest waders please. Last time I got my BVD's wet and developed a terrible case of chafing. I can't lead an army with chafing now, can I?....No, of course not......What's that?......No, khaki. It's got to be khaki. This is the first invasion of Japan proper. We can't have the Japanese thinking the US Army is led by undisciplined officers now, can we?......No, of course not. Now, camera people. I want at least two film and two still photographers. And don't send that fruit from Hollywood again. Got it?.............

[Crackaces]

I sort of thought Naha was next ... [8D] Just one thought for comment from the group ... my limited experiences in this group and reading AAR's is that Naha stacked to the max with whatever elite IJ units remain is a very tough nut to crack. Tougher than real life .... Admin and Supply might be as critical as AV in this case as disrupted forces can be blitzed by strong IJA forces. [At least you are not dealing with Kami's yet!] Here more than other places because it is a natural place within the inner-ring to gather forces for the final conflict so to speak ....

It will be interesting to read how staff flunkies screwed up the plan [:D]

[Cap Mandrake]

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

I sort of thought Naha was next ... [8D] Just one thought for comment from the group ... my limited experiences in this group and reading AAR's is that Naha stacked to the max with whatever elite IJ units remain is a very tough nut to crack. Tougher than real life .... Admin and Supply might be as critical as AV in this case as disrupted forces can be blitzed by strong IJA forces. [At least you are not dealing with Kami's yet!] Here more than other places because it is a natural place within the inner-ring to gather forces for the final conflict so to speak ....

It will be interesting to read how staff flunkies screwed up the plan [:D]

Yes. It's a rough hex with a level 4 airfield and a level 3 in an adjoining hex. Plus there are the airfields on Formosa and Kyushu.

We can't go with 4 regiments if there is a division there or even an experienced regiment behind forts. Now, if JJ threw "everything they had" to try to stop us in the PI, they might have shorted Naha. Also, we can wait for 32nd ID and 37th ID. That will be a bit more intimidating force. If it is a bastion, we take Daito Shato, Kume-jima and Myako-jima and bomb the living crap out of Okinawa.

As for the staff flunkies, the main error is getting the components of 1st Marine Div stuck in the defensive line at Manira. Still, Manira was worth the effort if it could be gotten easily (which it cannot). The second error is no armor for Okinawa. The stupid flunkies threw everything in at Manira and Northern Luzon.

[Crackaces]

We can't go with 4 regiments if there is a division there or even an experienced regiment behind forts. Now, if JJ threw "everything they had" to try to stop us in the PI, they might have shorted Naha. Also, we can wait for 32nd ID and 37th ID. That will be a bit more intimidating force. If it is a bastion, we take Daito Shato, Kume-jima and Myako-jima and bomb the living crap out of Okinawa.

Sounds like reasonable logic .. I buy it .. I might bomb Oki in preparation anyway .. not so much for casualties but disruption which is not accounted for in combat reports. Disrupted units take a couple of days to recover and constant bombardment from the sky/sea keeps the forces disrupted ..then supply and admin allow smaller forces to overwhelm the AV plus of forts/defense .. In my limited view of the the enemy not being supplied and being disrupted while the good guys are not disrupted and are well supplied is as important as the initial AV force calculations ... The lack of armor is critical I think in stacking limit games where the density of firepower/AV is key to success in my opinion ...

I am making the comment here only that he can start concentrating forces due to the diminishing things there are left to defend ...[8D]

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

I sort of thought Naha was next ... [8D] Just one thought for comment from the group ... my limited experiences in this group and reading AAR's is that Naha stacked to the max with whatever elite IJ units remain is a very tough nut to crack. Tougher than real life .... Admin and Supply might be as critical as AV in this case as disrupted forces can be blitzed by strong IJA forces. [At least you are not dealing with Kami's yet!] Here more than other places because it is a natural place within the inner-ring to gather forces for the final conflict so to speak ....

It will be interesting to read how staff flunkies screwed up the plan [:D]

Yes. It's a rough hex with a level 4 airfield and a level 3 in an adjoining hex. Plus there are the airfields on Formosa and Kyushu.

We can't go with 4 regiments if there is a division there or even an experienced regiment behind forts. Now, if JJ threw "everything they had" to try to stop us in the PI, they might have shorted Naha. Also, we can wait for 32nd ID and 37th ID. That will be a bit more intimidating force. If it is a bastion, we take Daito Shato, Kume-jima and Myako-jima and bomb the living crap out of Okinawa.

As for the staff flunkies, the main error is getting the components of 1st Marine Div stuck in the defensive line at Manira. Still, Manira was worth the effort if it could be gotten easily (which it cannot). The second error is no armor for Okinawa. The stupid flunkies threw everything in at Manira and Northern Luzon.

Lieutenant General Walter Krueger, Commander, Sixth Army: Ahh, it's good to be back at HQ again and out of the chaos of the Luzon front lines! [notices an oriental officer in strange uniform, sitting at a desk slowly writing orders with a tiny paint brush] Wait a moment, who are you?

Oriental staff officer in strange uniform: [seems surprised to see the Lt. Gen. and stands abruptly, scattering papers, ink and brush] Major Flun Kyi, Kuomintang Army HQ, sir!

Lieutenant General Walter Krueger, Commander, Sixth Army: Huh? I don't recall asking for a staff officer from China.? Why are you here?

Maj. Flun Kyi: So solly generau, my orders must not have come to your attention. Gen. Chiang Kai-Chek ordered me to write them and send them to you.

Lieutenant General Walter Krueger, Commander, Sixth Army: Chiang Kai-Chek ordered it? Why would he think I needed a Chinese staff officer?

Maj. Flun Kyi: I not know generau! He carr me into his office ... I think he going brame me for disaster at Lanchow, but when I come in office he get message that Generau Stillwell is assigned to command in China. He look very angry for a moment, but then he look at me and smire, and order me to report to 6th Army HQ.

Lieutenant General Walter Krueger, Commander, Sixth Army: Well, when did all this happen?

Maj. Flun Kyi: I very fortunate and find Gen. Chiang arrange aircraft to fly me right away and drop me by parachute. I get here just in time to work on invasion of Phirippines. I have been issuing orders for months!

Lieutenant General Walter Krueger, Commander, Sixth Army: [look of incredulous realization crosses his face as the cigar drops from his mouth] Ohhhh, crap!