Historicon fan report..Steel Panthers?

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RE: Historicon fan report..Steel Panthers?

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What I need?

Top down view, it is all I require.

The current method of elevation needs work though, WW2 wasn't played on a table.

Turns hexes and no time wasted on anything else. If a person wants a 3d real time game, I have a looooong list of games that do it already, stop buggering up my game with suggestions that belong in another game.

I want a product that is as good for me as it is for the developer. I have not had any beef with Battle Academy being done as expansions, so to Gary I say, don't try to make the game a recreation of version 8.something. Start with a nation give us a lot of scenarios, give us some places they fought, make it easy to mod, let the fans slave over it for you. We all know they will. Next expansion, new nation and go like that. You make more money and we get the game sooner and everyone is happy.

If you really insist on making it all nations all fronts and every piece of gear ever known to have existed, well I will likely be lucky to be still alive when you are done eh. Steel Panthers took something like 10 years to evolve into version 8.something. I'm not likely going to be dead in 10 years, but then who knows what sort of computer will be in use then eh. As I see it, a game has to arrive soon or you have to redo it all over for the new tech half the time.
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A new SP has to be top down 2D..turn based or WEGO..go 3D or real time the game is no longer SP but just another realtime game. Going top down 2D helps with lots of mechanics which would be extremely difficult in 3D...at the moment City fighting could be done alot easier in 2D top down.

Make a monster tactical game the tactical equivalent of GGWitE, do what GGitE does for operational scale.
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A new SP has to be top down 2D..turn based or WEGO..go 3D or real time the game is no longer SP but just another realtime game. Going top down 2D helps with lots of mechanics which would be extremely difficult in 3D...at the moment City fighting could be done alot easier in 2D top down.

Make a monster tactical game the tactical equivalent of GGWitE, do what GGitE does for operational scale.

+1 and please do not leave out USMC or Japan.

Now what should the name of the new game be? Son of Panther? Panther Kong?
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I think in "the game formerly known as Steel Panthers" hehehehe this or "Steel Machines"... is a problem cant use "fighting steel"

More serious... why not "Steel Tigers/felines/hunters"???

Yes, i want to see not remove the Pacific but on this dark days where you need pay 3-4 times to have the same content that in a pre 2000 game with very few exceptions...

But this is a very very in future game if they plan release first the games based in WITE at least 2-3 years to start the game with a lot of luck maybe in 2018 [8|]
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Why does it always need to be German references? Why not numerous reliable Shermans :) Or slow moving heavily armoured Churchills?

Ok I admit, Iron Tigers might sell faster :)
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Why does it always need to be German references? Why not numerous reliable Shermans :) Or slow moving heavily armoured Churchills?

Ok I admit, Iron Tigers might sell faster :)

Later in the war, German tanks were superbly crafted [&o], although they had their share of mechanical problems and eventually the fuel shortages stopped them cold.

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It's also things like multi level buildings that so far haven't been done in a 2D turn based tactical PC game..Infact there are lots of things that can and should be done to make it the ultimate tactical wargame just like SP was in it's day (and even today hasn't been beaten).

I'm sure Mr Grigsby will have lots of ideas and it couldn't be in safer hands. The only worry I have is time..

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ORIGINAL: wodin

A new SP has to be top down 2D..turn based or WEGO..go 3D or real time the game is no longer SP but just another realtime game. Going top down 2D helps with lots of mechanics which would be extremely difficult in 3D...at the moment City fighting could be done alot easier in 2D top down.

Make a monster tactical game the tactical equivalent of GGWitE, do what GGitE does for operational scale.

+1 and please do not leave out USMC or Japan.

Now what should the name of the new game be? Son of Panther? Panther Kong?
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I think by the time SP happens, the X-Box One will have happened and will have rolled over and died actually.

I seriously doubt microsoft xbox is going to roll over and die
Not that I support the PS4, but at least the PS4 is not being manufactured by fools.

I was kidding about making SP for xbox, but if they do it'd be cool. Or PS or whatever. I'm a fanboi of all these proposed systems.

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I think 3D does make for better graphics. I've played SP so long I'm starting to get old and hard of seeing. If matrixgames can sharpen the graphics, I think it will sell and is worth doing.

SP is a gateway to wargaming addiction, that should be capitalized. Put it on marketplace cheap then sell DLC. The game is a hit. It's been a hit for 20 years. Ppl love this game.
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Well I believe 2D can be just as great as 3D..we just haven't seen it yet. Just look at what some 2D games look like these days..they can look awesome.
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I think 3D does make for better graphics. I've played SP so long I'm starting to get old and hard of seeing. If matrixgames can sharpen the graphics, I think it will sell and is worth doing.

SP is a gateway to wargaming addiction, that should be capitalized. Put it on marketplace cheap then sell DLC. The game is a hit. It's been a hit for 20 years. Ppl love this game.
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Well I believe 2D can be just as great as 3D..we just haven't seen it yet. Just look at what some 2D games look like these days..they can look awesome.
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I think 3D does make for better graphics. I've played SP so long I'm starting to get old and hard of seeing. If matrixgames can sharpen the graphics, I think it will sell and is worth doing.

SP is a gateway to wargaming addiction, that should be capitalized. Put it on marketplace cheap then sell DLC. The game is a hit. It's been a hit for 20 years. Ppl love this game.

Exactly. Many times well made 2D graphics are much sharper than 3D graphics. Who cares if it's 3D when the end result is that the graphics become fuzzy and unsharp? I've never understood that. Only 3D please when the end result is crystal clear and razor sharp please please.
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