Uncommon Valor: Game will not start

Mr.Frag · Post by **Mr.Frag** » Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:27 pm

Yep, you raise one of a million possibilities, that of a virus being installed on the machine that is infecting the files as they get installed...

Go to http://security.symantec.com/ssc/home.asp and run through their free online tools to check out your machines.

I always assume that no one has a virus as there is so many free anti-virus tools out there ...

Paulpaspas · Post by **Paulpaspas** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 5:02 am

Nope... thanks, no viruses and the little bear is just fine... now if I could only get to the Akagi & Kaga.....

Still hopeful,
Paul

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Sat Mar 01, 2003 3:44 pm

Please attach the DirectX Dialog file of your system to your next reply here.

Paulpaspas · Post by **Paulpaspas** » Sat Mar 01, 2003 8:45 pm

Marc,

Here is that file.

Thank you,
Paul

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 5:35 pm

Thanks for the file,

I see that you havn´t partionated your harddisk:

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 5.6 GB
Total Space: 38.2 GB
File System: NTFS

Just running C: and that is NTFS format, I not 100% sure but it´s most likely a problem with the NTFS format.

Although NTFS is a good format for your OS partition it may lead to conflicts with games and other software. For standard applications and games I allways recommend a FAT32 formated disk or partition. Just let have your OS partition have the NTFS format, I personally don´t even save any files I work on under NTFS, I just let my OS sit on that partition.

Mr.Frag · Post by **Mr.Frag** » Sun Mar 02, 2003 9:58 pm

Mark, running Windows 2000 here with a couple of 80 gig's and I can tell you there are no problems with NTFS & UV.

brankin · Post by **brankin** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 10:37 am

I took a look at Paul's dxdiag file and didn't find much in common with my setup. I'm including mine here as well.

I have checked and updated both my sound and video drivers. I was having the problem when I was running DirectX 8.1 and still after upgrading to DirectX 9 which is required for the Freelancer demo.

I have also done a virus check and I'm clean.
FAT32 File system at home, but it did work on an NTFS partition on an XP box at work.

I'll keep working on it. Thanks for your help so far.

Mr.Frag · Post by **Mr.Frag** » Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:30 pm

I would advise that both of you download one of the many demos out there to rule out UV as the problem. If you find that the demo works, then you know it's something specific within UV. If the demo doesn't work, well, then you know it's got nothing to do with UV ...

Brankin, I notice your sound blaster live is running at full acceleration ... in DxDiag, there is a slider on the sound tab. Pull it back 1 noth to the left so it is running at standard. This may help you out.

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 6:13 pm

Okay, good to know that it works on an NTFS partition, I couldn´t check it here. I just know that I had problems with running applications on NTFS that worked like a charm on FAT16 or FAT32 allready.

I´m stuck at the moment, gimme a day or two.

Paulpaspas · Post by **Paulpaspas** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 7:04 pm

One down and one to go....

Rule One: Download and install the latest dribers.

Rule Two: Ignore rule one.

I downloaded the prior video drivers for my card and installed them.... and now I am looking for the Akagi & Kaga... is there a non historial that will let them live beyond Midway?

Thanks for all your trouble brainstorming.... I haven't actually changed the drivers for the gaming machine yet; but, I am going to assume (fatal error?) that that should work: it is the common factor.

Thanks again,
Paul:D

Paulpaspas · Post by **Paulpaspas** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:40 pm

I played hooky from work long enough to install the old drivers on my game machine... and do a clean install of UV... when I first ran the program it seemed to take a long time to establish itself... I felt like the Mission Control people in Apollo 13... waiting... waiting... and then finally, the morse code and game screens appeared. Whew!

Again, thanks for all your help... I just love trouble-shooting.

P.S. I download an Apple II emulator last night... so now I can play all my old Grigsby Games!!! (Someone hath murdered sleep!)

Erik Rutins · Post by **Erik Rutins** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 8:51 pm

Great to hear, Paul. Try Scenario 17 for a full dose of the Japanese Carrier Force. Scenario 19 is for when you feel the AI is no longer a challenge.

I'd start with Coral Sea and Eastern Solomons, then Four Weeks of Hell and Green Hell, just to get used to how things work and scale up in complexity.

Regards,

- Erik

Mr.Frag · Post by **Mr.Frag** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 10:53 pm

Interesting ... it leads down the path of 1 of 2 things:

Either Direct X was cooked and reinstalling the video driver corrected the broken links or that version of the nVidia driver doesn't like your card.

Interesting to try now upgrading back to the version that didn't work ... if it is now fixed, it's the classic broken DX situation which is quite common ... always re-install all drivers AFTER changing Direct X in any way shape or form

Feel free to risk it, now that you have isolated the fault, it is an easy fix if you break it again ...

PS: that long wait is the copyguard test on the CD to verify that it's a real CD ... Don't forget to apply the patches and read the patch notes to see what all has changed

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Tue Mar 04, 2003 11:29 pm

Originally posted by Paulpaspas
I played hooky from work long enough to install the old drivers on my game machine... and do a clean install of UV... when I first ran the program it seemed to take a long time to establish itself... I felt like the Mission Control people in Apollo 13... waiting... waiting... and then finally, the morse code and game screens appeared. Whew!

Again, thanks for all your help... I just love trouble-shooting.

P.S. I download an Apple II emulator last night... so now I can play all my old Grigsby Games!!! (Someone hath murdered sleep!)

Good to hear, please can you provide me with a link to the drivers, I want to check something.

Mr.Frag · Post by **Mr.Frag** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 1:10 am

http://download.nvidia.com/Windows/41.0 ... in2kxp.exe

Based on Paul's DX report, thats what he was running ...

Marc von Martial · Post by **Marc von Martial** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 1:35 am

Well, that are the latest Detonator drivers, I have them running without a flaw here.

I was interested in the older drivers to check the features/fixes list.

Paulpaspas · Post by **Paulpaspas** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 4:31 am

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=winxp-2k_40.72

Hope this helps. I'm going to see if it "breaks" after I reinstall their latest and greatest drivers.

I'll let you know,
Paul

Mr.Frag · Post by **Mr.Frag** » Wed Mar 05, 2003 4:47 am

Make sure you follow the directions Paul, nVidia is known to leave bits of code kicking around and you end up with mixed versions installed.

Luck be with ya! If computers made sense, I wouldn't be employed

Uncommon Valor: Game will not start

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