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Interesting that you chose to build up the islands in the Celebes Sea but not defend Ternate. You are wise to defend that base SW of Manado, which is the poor man's way to Manado.


That Allied salient in NW Dutch new Guinea is looking a bit phallic. You might want to do a Lorena Bobbitt on it before it starts growing.


Ternate is actually defended, but not heavily. The reason? To many bases nearby in the Molluccas, but none of them can be built up to lvl 8 AF. And i cannot defend them all nicely. Defend all of them poorly and you'll get overrunned, easily. while the bases up North, in the Celebes, South of Davao are pretty isolated and can be defended easier. Building up Mindanao to lvl 9 and Telau-enlandien to level 8 and you'll get some decent AFs to strike if he lands in the Mollucces

A Lorena? How? He has TONS of PTs, mines and Fletchers there, not to talk about his air power...more than 2500 allied planes spread between Darwin-Molu-Selroe and Babo...
No, i think my best bet is to keep on building up and wait for him to risk another amphib Landing... then i could strike. Remember that he has been easily stuck at Kaimana by a regiment and an airlifted division... despite facing the 1st USMC Division and the 4th Aus Division... the cream of his army. I don't need to risk my assets now. I need him to risk his own ones. And the more he pushes forward, the riskier it gets for him if he doesn't enlgarge his salient
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Interesting that you chose to build up the islands in the Celebes Sea but not defend Ternate. You are wise to defend that base SW of Manado, which is the poor man's way to Manado.


That Allied salient in NW Dutch new Guinea is looking a bit phallic. You might want to do a Lorena Bobbitt on it before it starts growing.


Ternate is actually defended, but not heavily. The reason? To many bases nearby in the Molluccas, but none of them can be built up to lvl 8 AF. And i cannot defend them all nicely. Defend all of them poorly and you'll get overrunned, easily. while the bases up North, in the Celebes, South of Davao are pretty isolated and can be defended easier. Building up Mindanao to lvl 9 and Telau-enlandien to level 8 and you'll get some decent AFs to strike if he lands in the Mollucces

A Lorena? How? He has TONS of PTs, mines and Fletchers there, not to talk about his air power...more than 2500 allied planes spread between Darwin-Molu-Selroe and Babo...
No, i think my best bet is to keep on building up and wait for him to risk another amphib Landing... then i could strike. Remember that he has been easily stuck at Kaimana by a regiment and an airlifted division... despite facing the 1st USMC Division and the 4th Aus Division... the cream of his army. I don't need to risk my assets now. I need him to risk his own ones. And the more he pushes forward, the riskier it gets for him if he doesn't enlgarge his salient

I think Dan was reacting to the analogy. [:)]

I did not realize he had functioning air bases that far forward. What about that Dutch base at the tip of the "salient"? Did he actually capture that or is just a historical left over?
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Interesting that you chose to build up the islands in the Celebes Sea but not defend Ternate. You are wise to defend that base SW of Manado, which is the poor man's way to Manado.


That Allied salient in NW Dutch new Guinea is looking a bit phallic. You might want to do a Lorena Bobbitt on it before it starts growing.


Ternate is actually defended, but not heavily. The reason? To many bases nearby in the Molluccas, but none of them can be built up to lvl 8 AF. And i cannot defend them all nicely. Defend all of them poorly and you'll get overrunned, easily. while the bases up North, in the Celebes, South of Davao are pretty isolated and can be defended easier. Building up Mindanao to lvl 9 and Telau-enlandien to level 8 and you'll get some decent AFs to strike if he lands in the Mollucces

A Lorena? How? He has TONS of PTs, mines and Fletchers there, not to talk about his air power...more than 2500 allied planes spread between Darwin-Molu-Selroe and Babo...
No, i think my best bet is to keep on building up and wait for him to risk another amphib Landing... then i could strike. Remember that he has been easily stuck at Kaimana by a regiment and an airlifted division... despite facing the 1st USMC Division and the 4th Aus Division... the cream of his army. I don't need to risk my assets now. I need him to risk his own ones. And the more he pushes forward, the riskier it gets for him if he doesn't enlgarge his salient

I think Dan was reacting to the analogy. [:)]

I did not realize he had functioning air bases that far forward. What about that Dutch base at the tip of the "salient"? Did he actually capture that or is just a historical left over?

No, it's an historical left over.

I understand your concerns guys. I have many bases which aren't defended... but believe me: i've studied the map a lot and there is not an easy strategical answer for Japan in this theatre. You cannot defend them all and you cannot defend too much forward...
You've seen what he has done in the previous perimeter (Babar-Selroe-Saumlaki-Taberfane-Dobo)... he simply bypassed it, Landing at Molu which was undefended (ok, he got stuck at Samulaki, but he penetrated all the same).
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Of course you are right. You can't defend everything. Seems to me you defense has been masterful. I see your point about defending at the Celebes Sea line. He can't bypass that without going all the way to Mindanao. And then to land in the Moluccas, he is withing easy escort/dive bomber/torpedo bomber range from your big bases.
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and this is the overall picture.

At the moment we have 4 main enemy's vectors:

1-Coastal Burma (Ayab-Ramree vector)
2-Inner Burma (Bahmo-Lashio and towards Thailand)
3-Eastern New Guinea (Hollandia-Vanimo)
4-Southern DEI



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Of course you are right. You can't defend everything. Seems to me you defense has been masterful. I see your point about defending at the Celebes Sea line. He can't bypass that without going all the way to Mindanao. And then to land in the Moluccas, he is withing easy escort/dive bomber/torpedo bomber range from your big bases.


Yup, exactly. [;)]
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So what are you calling your new defensive line? I suggest "The Chastity Belt Line", in keeping with Cap M's observation ...[;)]
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Of course you are right. You can't defend everything. Seems to me you defense has been masterful. I see your point about defending at the Celebes Sea line. He can't bypass that without going all the way to Mindanao. And then to land in the Moluccas, he is withing easy escort/dive bomber/torpedo bomber range from your big bases.


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I think your map is telling. The approach up the north coast of New Guinea is far more important than the Gilberts or Marshals. I bet he ignores the Marianas as well, preferring to secure the anchorages at Yap and Ulithi. What really gets me curious is the rout below. Is this in danger of really hurting you as far as your import business goes? Big Hurt?

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I think your map is telling. The approach up the north coast of New Guinea is far more important than the Gilberts or Marshals. I bet he ignores the Marianas as well, preferring to secure the anchorages at Yap and Ulithi. What really gets me curious is the rout below. Is this in danger of really hurting you as far as your import business goes? Big Hurt?

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well, Zulu, i think i exagerated in drawing that Arrow. Too big and too deep. No, the previous map about Burma is far more precise. The real danger is towards Chang-Mai, even if the chinese corps involved are still pretty far away from it. Let's say that there's a vector coming down on from Bhamo-Paoshan and moving sliding on the flank of Lashio.

He may ignore the Mariannas, but Yap and Ulithi are not without defences. Yap, in particular, is getting a Brigade in these days and forts are already up to 5, with base forces and AA units. Ulithi is an Atoll, so i'm tweaking my defences in order to get the best out of the 6,000 men garrison

Turns are slow. Brad must having some busy days at work
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After checking back to post 2904 I see what you mean. My two cents in that area would entail some small units maybe supplied by air, to cut off supply from Kunming unnoticed in the eastern end of the bulge and maybe let the advance "slide by" on the western side and cut him off again there. A war of maneuver.

**disregard**

He has enough transports to baffle this. I would think the number of C47 and the like to be quite large and his ability to operate "deep" substantial.
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I think the key is that both his axis of advances are nowhere near threatening your oil production. Come mid 44, Japan can't really hope to stop the Allied advance. But the longer you keep your DEI oil flowing to the HI the better off you are for the end game.
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I think the key is that both his axis of advances are nowhere near threatening your oil production. Come mid 44, Japan can't really hope to stop the Allied advance. But the longer you keep your DEI oil flowing to the HI the better off you are for the end game.

He's not that far. Molu, is a potential level 8 AF... and it's only 25 hexes from Balikapan...
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The game is proceeding slowly... Will update tomorrow... In the meanwhile...i'll post some pictures of my vacations
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I think the key is that both his axis of advances are nowhere near threatening your oil production. Come mid 44, Japan can't really hope to stop the Allied advance. But the longer you keep your DEI oil flowing to the HI the better off you are for the end game.

He's not that far. Molu, is a potential level 8 AF... and it's only 25 hexes from Balikapan...

Well my experience is that you really got to have a level 9 for B29s, and have to be in a position to bomb multiple targets. If not you can just stack George and Jacks at the one base and slaughter Allied heavies. So he is really not close yet.
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I think the key is that both his axis of advances are nowhere near threatening your oil production. Come mid 44, Japan can't really hope to stop the Allied advance. But the longer you keep your DEI oil flowing to the HI the better off you are for the end game.

He's not that far. Molu, is a potential level 8 AF... and it's only 25 hexes from Balikapan...

Well my experience is that you really got to have a level 9 for B29s, and have to be in a position to bomb multiple targets. If not you can just stack George and Jacks at the one base and slaughter Allied heavies. So he is really not close yet.

No need for daylight bombing. B-29s do just fine at night and massacre the Japanese NFs in the process. All he needs is a base in range and the oil is going to be toast. I lost 185 oil points in one attack against Miri at night with 3% moonlight, contested by NF and flak and that was only about 60-70 B-29s.

He can sit right where he is and wait to take out the Southern DEI oil. He can just use Darwin once the B-29s arrive and get Balikpapan and Soerabaja from there. Manado would be a big key for the rest of the oil though, in range of both Palembang and Miri.
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Jan 6-14 1944

For some strange reasons i cannot upload the pictures i took from my i-phone.. no vacation pictures so :-(

However, we've done another week of war. The allies are slowly reducing Kaimana. on the 12th they finally got their first 2-1 and reduced the forts to 0. My garrison there is still fighting bravely, but the allies reinforced the 1st Marine Corp with a TD Bn and with some artillery, causing 5 auto bombardment routines (which i hates), draining my supplies and exposing my units to the deadly counterbattery fire. Then some BB/CAs bombed the hell out of it, while 10 DDs bomb it every night. I cannot intercept those TFs coming from Darwin cause Kaimana is now completely sorrounded by enemy's waters... i can just keep on fighting, hoping to delay the enemy as much as possible.

I think he will soon land at Taberfane and possibly at Sarmi (CVE and APAs spotted near Hollandia).
The enemy's CVs are out of my sight since the last battle in December and i'm getting scared....

In Burma Brad is trying a new offensive towards Magwe...but i have a counter plan....


We have an HR to prevent night bombing everywhere but in the HI. We both think it's completely borked and we haven't flown a single night mission since the beginning of the war. We agreed to let the B29s bomb at night the HI when they'll be in range just to give a flavour of reality to our game but, unfortunately, we both know the Night bombing can ruin the game cause it's too precise and too easy.

I'm, however, already moving Sentais to Balikapan, Sosarbaja, Tarakan and Palembang. The oil keeps on flowing for the moment...My goal is to keep my oil flowing for the next 6 months... let's see if i can do it
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We have an HR to prevent night bombing everywhere but in the HI. We both think it's completely borked and we haven't flown a single night mission since the beginning of the war. We agreed to let the B29s bomb at night the HI when they'll be in range just to give a flavour of reality to our game but, unfortunately, we both know the Night bombing can ruin the game cause it's too precise and too easy.

I'm, however, already moving Sentais to Balikapan, Sosarbaja, Tarakan and Palembang. The oil keeps on flowing for the moment...My goal is to keep my oil flowing for the next 6 months... let's see if i can do it

I agree it can give very silly results, but I can't believe an Allied player would allow an HR to restrict night bombing of Manpower anywhere and oil in the DEI. You should go into politics, Nic! [:D]
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