Mktours(Ger)VsMarquo(Sov)

[mktours]

T3 south
The infantry marched through the highway, release the entire 2 PzG, they fought cross a short corridor of defense and then drove into a literally free way, not a single solider could be seen. This had puzzled me when I did the turn, later, when I count the POW of the massive pocket, I realized Marquo have evacuate literally all the troops that was not unfrozen. Good job.

[mktours]

T3 Odessa
The 3 SS and two 90 morale panzer division all had 50MP this turn, preparing to crush any resistance, only for them to discover that there was no resistance at all, Marquo didn’t send a single solider to the region, instead, he evacuate anything except of the frozen ones. the Soviet had got very good intelligence officers.
The good news for me is that I could reserve much of their MP for later offense.

[mktours]

To defend this south opening, one solution is to deploy the troops from the Lvov region to the Romania east border, they could not escape anyway, the key here is to cover the route for the GHC motorize troops to reach and sack Odessa in T3, the frozen Odessa defense is very weak, but the GHC need very high MP to reach there, so the key is to guard the key positions, for example, rough hex, river bank.
it would be very challenging for the SHC to handle this opening, it could be fun for some, but would be unwelcome by many. to anyone who is disliking this opening, here is my apologize. for anyone who have a generous mind to accept or allowing them to happen, here goes my thanks.
the reason for me to use this opening is that I view myself as a beginner, and was expecting my opponent could be far better than me. I want to see how they would react. I thought this have been talked about for a long time and people should not feel surprise to it, but I was wrong. I agree that it gave me much advantage in the games and I didn't deserve it.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: mktours

To defend this south opening, one solution is to deploy the troops from the Lvov region to the Romania east border, they could not escape anyway, the key here is to cover the route for the GHC motorize troops to reach and sack Odessa in T3, the frozen Odessa defense is very weak, but the GHC need very high MP to reach there, so the key is to guard the key positions, for example, rough hex, river bank.
it would be very challenging for the SHC to handle this opening, it could be fun for some, but would be unwelcome by many. to anyone who is disliking this opening, here is my apologize. for anyone who have a generous mind to accept or allowing them to happen, here goes my thanks.
the reason for me to use this opening is that I view myself as a beginner, and was expecting my opponent could be far better than me. I want to see how they would react. I thought this have been talked about for a long time and people should not feel surprise to it, but I was wrong. I agree that it gave me much advantage in the games and I didn't deserve it.

How you and MT find people to defend forward in south is amazing to me game (AAR) after game (AAR)[X(]

I am guessing no one can read or have not read one the last 18 months heheheh

The last 6 I have played people run and never stop.

[mktours]

I am sorry, but how you manage to do the Lvov opening from time to time and never bored of it is beyond my imagination, given you are playing so many games. In my opinion, that is a very bad opening and it was directly relating to why you lost to MT.

ORIGINAL: Pelton

ORIGINAL: mktours

To defend this south opening, one solution is to deploy the troops from the Lvov region to the Romania east border, they could not escape anyway, the key here is to cover the route for the GHC motorize troops to reach and sack Odessa in T3, the frozen Odessa defense is very weak, but the GHC need very high MP to reach there, so the key is to guard the key positions, for example, rough hex, river bank.
it would be very challenging for the SHC to handle this opening, it could be fun for some, but would be unwelcome by many. to anyone who is disliking this opening, here is my apologize. for anyone who have a generous mind to accept or allowing them to happen, here goes my thanks.
the reason for me to use this opening is that I view myself as a beginner, and was expecting my opponent could be far better than me. I want to see how they would react. I thought this have been talked about for a long time and people should not feel surprise to it, but I was wrong. I agree that it gave me much advantage in the games and I didn't deserve it.

How you and MT find people stupid enough to defend forward in south is amazing to me game (AAR) after game (AAR)[X(]

I am guessing no one can read or have not read one the last 18 months heheheh

The last 6 I have played people run and never stop.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: mktours

I am sorry, but how you manage to do the Lvov opening from time to time and never bored of it is beyond my imagination, given you are playing so many games. In my opinion, that is a very bad opening and it was directly relating to why you lost to MT.

ORIGINAL: Pelton

ORIGINAL: mktours

To defend this south opening, one solution is to deploy the troops from the Lvov region to the Romania east border, they could not escape anyway, the key here is to cover the route for the GHC motorize troops to reach and sack Odessa in T3, the frozen Odessa defense is very weak, but the GHC need very high MP to reach there, so the key is to guard the key positions, for example, rough hex, river bank.
it would be very challenging for the SHC to handle this opening, it could be fun for some, but would be unwelcome by many. to anyone who is disliking this opening, here is my apologize. for anyone who have a generous mind to accept or allowing them to happen, here goes my thanks.
the reason for me to use this opening is that I view myself as a beginner, and was expecting my opponent could be far better than me. I want to see how they would react. I thought this have been talked about for a long time and people should not feel surprise to it, but I was wrong. I agree that it gave me much advantage in the games and I didn't deserve it.

How you and MT find people stupid enough to defend forward in south is amazing to me game (AAR) after game (AAR)[X(]

I am guessing no one can read or have not read one the last 18 months heheheh

The last 6 I have played people run and never stop.

But son my opening is not about to get nerfed as your and Mt's is.

My opening does the same damage as yours, but will survive the next and final patch

My current opening was not used vs MT and the game is corrupted so a non-game.

So you be coping my opening from now on

[Michael T]

My current opening was not used vs MT and the game is corrupted so a non-game.

Only in your own mind Pelton. You lost.

[Michael T]

How you and MT find people stupid enough to defend forward in south is amazing to me game (AAR) after game (AAR)

These kind of remarks should not be tolerated by the moderators. They only cause to provoke unsavory exchanges.

Please Joel or someone take appropriate steps to stop this disrespectful rubbish.

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: Michael T

My current opening was not used vs MT and the game is corrupted so a non-game.

Only in your own mind Pelton. You lost.

So you lost to Kamil your first game?

he was winning, but game was bugged or whats your excuse?

I am more then willing to finish our game your the one that stopped playing its your turn.

Admit you lost to me or finish the game or its a tech error draw.

Actions speak louder then words.

Its your turn

[mktours]

I did this opening only 3 times, but have some variant in each game, this opening is the strongest of them as I expect my opponent to be better. even so, Three time an opening has reached my limit, I would not play it any more as I am bored. To release the south front 1 turn earlier than the GHC side is wrong in itself.
you should stop to use "son" or "stupid", that is very poor manner.

ORIGINAL: Pelton

ORIGINAL: mktours

I am sorry, but how you manage to do the Lvov opening from time to time and never bored of it is beyond my imagination, given you are playing so many games. In my opinion, that is a very bad opening and it was directly relating to why you lost to MT.

ORIGINAL: Pelton




How you and MT find people stupid enough to defend forward in south is amazing to me game (AAR) after game (AAR)[X(]

I am guessing no one can read or have not read one the last 18 months heheheh

The last 6 I have played people run and never stop.

But son my opening is not about to get nerfed as your and Mt's is.

My opening does the same damage as yours, but will survive the next and final patch

My current opening was not used vs MT and the game is corrupted so a non-game.

So you be coping my opening from now on

[Michael T]

So you lost to Kamil your first game?

he was winning, but game was bugged or whats your excuse?

I am more then willing to finish our game your the one that stopped playing its your turn.

Admit you lost to me or finish the game or its a tech error draw.

Actions speak louder then words.

Its your turn

Are you serious Pelton? Last time I proposed to play on even with the handicap you said no. Sure I will play it out if you are serious. I will gladly stomp you even without SU in my Corp, or warping HQ's. No problem. Post a message in the AAR that its all on again and away we go.

As for my game with Kamil he and I both agreed on a restart. It would be news to me if he was claiming victory. You should ask him and see what he says.

[mmarquo]

"you should stop to use "son" or "stupid", that is very poor manner"

Tours,

Please do not allow this ill-mannered person's boorish comments to detract from our enjoyment of the AAR. I suggest you use the green button at the bottom of one of his posts, and he will be no longer be able to annoy you.

Turn to follow soon [:)]

Marquo

[mmarquo]

[/quote]

How you and MT find people stupid enough to defend forward in south is amazing to me game (AAR) after game (AAR)[X(]

I am guessing no one can read or have not read one the last 18 months heheheh

The last 6 I have played people run and never stop.


[/quote]


1. MKTour's opening is vastly superior to anything else posted in an AAR, and I have read them all.
2. He skillfully and methodically took advantage of the opening Soviet positions including decreased mobility and frozen units to create a situation where running and extracting units was difficult if not impossible.
3. It is one thing to refer to game play as "stupid", but categorizing players as "stupid" is a new low, even for you.

Pelton, please do not post in this AAR anymore, you are not welcome here.


Thanks for abiding by this request.

[mktours]

Thanks, Marquo
let it go, never mind. I didn't know how to use the button properly so I didn't use it. I believe he got the message and would not come again. he have already known that it is poor manner, I suppose.

ORIGINAL: Marquo

"you should stop to use "son" or "stupid", that is very poor manner"

Tours,

Please do not allow this ill-mannered person's boorish comments to detract from our enjoyment of the AAR. I suggest you use the green button at the bottom of one of his posts, and he will be no longer be able to annoy you.

Turn to follow soon [:)]

Marquo

[mktours]

Thanks, Marquo
all the credit should go to you indeed, it is your generous mind that allow our game continue, as I have got much advantage which I do not deserve, our game is unbalance and is greatly in favor of the GHC after 3 turns, and it is not your fault.
win or lose in this game is not relivant, but we could enjoy the process,[:)]

[Michael T]

Sorry to hijak your AAR. But I couldn't let the 'stupid' remark go or the other aberations of the facts. Enjoy your game.

[mktours]

Michael, I completely agree that the "stupid" remark is ill manner, when I said "let it go, never mind" I meant "we don't need to let this assault ruin our mood", I am not a native English speaker and I might not use the expression correctly.

ORIGINAL: Michael T

Sorry to hijak your AAR. But I couldn't let the 'stupid' remark go or the other aberations of the facts. Enjoy your game.

[mktours]

edited: repeated post

[Disgruntled Veteran]

ORIGINAL: Marquo

"you should stop to use "son" or "stupid", that is very poor manner"

Tours,

Please do not allow this ill-mannered person's boorish comments to detract from our enjoyment of the AAR. I suggest you use the green button at the bottom of one of his posts, and he will be no longer be able to annoy you.

Turn to follow soon [:)]

Marquo

Lol..I never knew that button existed.

Thanks!

[timmyab]

I'm not seeing any stupidity here, quite the opposite.It looks like I dodged a bullet on this one, I very nearly took this game on.By turn three I'd have just been staring dumbly at the screen thinking - WHAT THE?!?!?!
The advance in the South is amazing to me, almost unbelievable.The Luki advance looks kind of weird.Surely this shouldn't be possible giving a realistic logistics system?