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- Cap Mandrake
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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Here is where the Nazis were. Ueno village, Miyako-jima. Maybe it was a coaling station left over from the age of imperialism?


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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Horrycrappo-jima is 61 sq miles in area. Seems like you could fit quite a few troops there. [:)] Not sure the map is right.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Luzon: Hurricane, tsunami, nor'easter, cyclone and 3 tornados. Almost no air combat. Wichita, with the loverly BFC Bardot aboard, bombarded Manira again, even landing a shell on the crippled *#&$($(# Kuma.
Most of the Mongol Horde moved to San Fernando and appears to be bearing down on Vigan. We tried to attack them by air today but no go.
Most of the Mongol Horde moved to San Fernando and appears to be bearing down on Vigan. We tried to attack them by air today but no go.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Mindanao: The SCTF escorting 32nd ID toward Vigan found and sank I-25
Sub attack near Davao at 82,91
Japanese Ships
SS I-25, hits 12, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD DeHaven
DD Grayson
DD Radford
CL Richmond
Sub attack near Davao at 82,91
Japanese Ships
SS I-25, hits 12, and is sunk
Allied Ships
DD DeHaven
DD Grayson
DD Radford
CL Richmond

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Burma: After some small scale air raids in which we lose a couple of B-25's and some Hurris, Gen Wavell leads the lads across the Irrawaddy at Mandaray. There is heap big battle. Many squaws sleep alone in teepee tonight. We manage a 1:1 and take down some forts but we do take heavy casualties.
Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 33624 troops, 408 guns, 1128 vehicles, Assault Value = 1399
Defending force 16084 troops, 213 guns, 244 vehicles, Assault Value = 664
Allied adjusted assault: 693
Japanese adjusted defense: 436
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)
Japanese ground losses:
694 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 58 (43 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2156 casualties reported
Squads: 83 destroyed, 220 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 119 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 51 (17 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 139 (14 destroyed, 125 disabled)
Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
23rd Indian Division
25th Indian Division
26th Indian Division
8th Medium Regiment
12th Indian Engineer Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
43rd Cavalry Engineer Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
163rd Light AA Regiment
15th Indian Engineer Battalion
24th Indian Engineer Battalion
Defending units:
14th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
55th Cavalry Regiment
55th Engineer Regiment
112th Infantry Regiment
124th Infantry Regiment
7th RTA/C Division
35th Field AA Battalion
23rd JAAF AF Bn
22nd JAAF AF Bn
36th JAAF AF Bn
Ground combat at Mandalay (59,46)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 33624 troops, 408 guns, 1128 vehicles, Assault Value = 1399
Defending force 16084 troops, 213 guns, 244 vehicles, Assault Value = 664
Allied adjusted assault: 693
Japanese adjusted defense: 436
Allied assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied Assault reduces fortifications to 2
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)
Japanese ground losses:
694 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 40 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 21 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 17 disabled
Guns lost 14 (2 destroyed, 12 disabled)
Vehicles lost 58 (43 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
2156 casualties reported
Squads: 83 destroyed, 220 disabled
Non Combat: 5 destroyed, 119 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 29 disabled
Guns lost 51 (17 destroyed, 34 disabled)
Vehicles lost 139 (14 destroyed, 125 disabled)
Assaulting units:
50th Tank Brigade
254th Armoured Brigade
23rd Indian Division
25th Indian Division
26th Indian Division
8th Medium Regiment
12th Indian Engineer Battalion
6th Medium Regiment
43rd Cavalry Engineer Regiment
85th British AT Gun Regiment
163rd Light AA Regiment
15th Indian Engineer Battalion
24th Indian Engineer Battalion
Defending units:
14th Tank Regiment
Guards Tank Division
55th Cavalry Regiment
55th Engineer Regiment
112th Infantry Regiment
124th Infantry Regiment
7th RTA/C Division
35th Field AA Battalion
23rd JAAF AF Bn
22nd JAAF AF Bn
36th JAAF AF Bn

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
3 infantry divisions, 2 armoured brigades, 2 regiments of artillery and engineers. Dang! There must be only women left in India. [:)]
Rots of Wee Jap Dobbers as well.
Rots of Wee Jap Dobbers as well.

RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)
That hurt your firepower and adjusted AV ...and your right I noted a lot of destroyed squads in the aftermath ... I have observed that disrupted units tend to take more destroyed squads after the smoke clears ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
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Rangoon: Hurris and Beaufighters sweep over Rangoon v 29 Tojos. We lose 7 Hurris to 3 Tojos.
Port Blair: No WJD attack. Our lads invent a delicious grub and tree bark consume.
Port Blair: No WJD attack. Our lads invent a delicious grub and tree bark consume.

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Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)
That hurt your firepower and adjusted AV ...and your right I noted a lot of destroyed squads in the aftermath ... I have observed that disrupted units tend to take more destroyed squads after the smoke clears ..
It's not easy getting an entire corps and 400 tanks across the Irrawaddy against entrenched Japs...especially when we have no road link to India.

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So how do we stop JJ from trying to land again at Miyako-jima? 8 guys and 2 81mm mortars are not very intimidating.
Well, if they have enough fuel, Lt Reese can go back and we send Arleigh Burke, USS St. Louis and 5 Fletcher class DD's up from Batan Is and see if we can cover them with LRCAP from Batan.
We can also drop some more paras. 4 more days until sizable forces arrive.
"Hold until relieved......hold until relieved...."[:)]
Well, if they have enough fuel, Lt Reese can go back and we send Arleigh Burke, USS St. Louis and 5 Fletcher class DD's up from Batan Is and see if we can cover them with LRCAP from Batan.
We can also drop some more paras. 4 more days until sizable forces arrive.
"Hold until relieved......hold until relieved...."[:)]

RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
It's not easy getting an entire corps and 400 tanks across the Irrawaddy against entrenched Japs...especially when we have no road link to India.
I got it [8D] I am not sure if the ticket is the minimal force to get disrupted and survive the shock attack with the rest of the forces following on is the answer or achieve maximum adjusted AV/Firepower and just accept the carnage with the thought of whatever is left is enough to carry the day is the answer ... I am still very uncertain to this question ...
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ORIGINAL: Crackaces
It's not easy getting an entire corps and 400 tanks across the Irrawaddy against entrenched Japs...especially when we have no road link to India.
I got it [8D] I am not sure if the ticket is the minimal force to get disrupted and survive the shock attack with the rest of the forces following on is the answer or achieve maximum adjusted AV/Firepower and just accept the carnage with the thought of whatever is left is enough to carry the day is the answer ... I am still very uncertain to this question ...
Right. It seems the key question is can you displace the bad guys with the first attack. If the answer is possibly so, then you send the whole lot. It looks like ALSP has another division moving West from Shwebo to cross downstream somewhere. Also 18th Div is now headed NE toward Magwe

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
See, Arries can be sneaky too.
"Grown ups are what's left when skool is finished."
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
"History started badly and hav been geting steadily worse."
- Nigel Molesworth.
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See, Arries can be sneaky too.
Well, sure, but do you also do little, yellow and inscrutable?
Noted: The one bomber destroyed at Pegu in the night bombing raids was a Sonia. Not sure this can reach Port Blair. Of course, there might be Netties too but they could be there to guard the Burma/Siam coast or even for use against the lads in the jungle coming down from Ramree. They have good reason to fear a landing south of Rangoon because they have made a stand on the Irrawaddy. My guess is the Netties, if there are still any, are at Rangoon. I'm guessing from the fighter sweeps you are planning another daytime raid over Rangoon. Sounds good to me.
Also, there are at least 2 task forces at Port Blair. One might be transports with escorts. Those transports we attacked off the coast of Siam disappeared.

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I suspect you have considered this as well, but with 18th Div moving on Magwe, what do they have at Meiktila? 50th Indian Para might be able to take the place? That would make things uncomfortable in Mandaray.

RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
ORIGINAL: sprior
See, Arries can be sneaky too.
Hmmm this is sneaky ... take Meiktila and all supply stops flowing to Mandalay .. as does the retreat route . first stop is Magwe ..It does not look like the IJA have prepared a secondary fall back Line of resistance [:-] [8D]
Edit: I posted simultaneously with the Cap .. a paradrop into an empty Meiktila is a coup de gras to this situation
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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
Perhaps 11th Chindits could fly in to Meiktila from Myitkyina once the airfield were taken.
I think you can land transports at a level one, just not operate from there? Anyone know?
By ra way, Mandaray would still have a supply route through Taung Gyi and then the long way around through trails and the Mandaray/Lashio road.
I think you can land transports at a level one, just not operate from there? Anyone know?
By ra way, Mandaray would still have a supply route through Taung Gyi and then the long way around through trails and the Mandaray/Lashio road.

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
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take Meiktila and all supply stops flowing to Mandalay .. as does the retreat route . first stop is Magwe ..It does not look like the IJA have prepared a secondary fall back Line of resistance [:-] [8D]
Edit: I posted simultaneously with the Cap .. a paradrop into an empty Meiktila is a coup de gras to this situation
While true that taking Meiktila (sp?) would cut off supply to Mandalay (and jeapordize the retreat route), I wouldn't assume it was unprotected without some dedicated local recon. Cap'n-you got some eyes in the sky there and at Taung Gyi?
As a Jap player, I love Taung Gyi as a regional base. Very helpful having road and rail access into the Mandalay-Meiktila (sp?) area whilest still protected by dense jungle.
ETA: Gah! I mistook Myitkyilina (N. Burma) for the city immediately below (central plains) Mandalay. Please assume my comments refer to this city. (name?)

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RE: The strawberry as an allegorical device
ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake
I think you can land transports at a level one, just not operate from there?
That's my understanding too, Cap'n.




