background sounds

clipper69 · Post by **clipper69** » Tue Feb 06, 2001 2:00 am

hi all,

my question is for vets :
do you think that background sound of SPWaW looks like reality ?
some arty sounds are missing, no ?
same for destruction of tanks : it looks like, for me, a train braking as entering in a railway station !!!

Bing · Post by **Bing** » Tue Feb 06, 2001 3:23 am

Originally posted by clipper69:
hi all,

my question is for vets :
do you think that background sound of SPWaW looks like reality ?
some arty sounds are missing, no ?
same for destruction of tanks : it looks like, for me, a train braking as entering in a railway station !!!
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This is pretty much a personal preference thing, as I see it - correction: as I hear it!

At first, I felt the same way about the battlefield sounds. Once I adjusted to it, they sort of merged into the background, though I always know they are there. I like'em the way they are now!

As to the tank destroyed sound file: I especially like the bingity-bang-bong at the end of it, sort of puts a cap on a successful shot from my tanker.

While we are on the subject: I had problems with certain sound files - they were breaking up, first getting mushy, then taking all the sound with them. After installing Cacheman and following instructions, I haven't had any problems at all with the sound. Cacheman is freeware, too!

BLing

Peregrine Falcon · Post by **Peregrine Falcon** » Tue Feb 06, 2001 3:11 pm

Originally posted by clipper69:
hi all,

my question is for vets :
do you think that background sound of SPWaW looks like reality ?
some arty sounds are missing, no ?
same for destruction of tanks : it looks like, for me, a train braking as entering in a railway station !!!

Good sounds are sometimes very hard to find. I think artillery sounds are mostly ok, but some of the MG-sounds are little stupid (like some russian ones)

Also quality HEAVY machine gun sounds (like .50 BMG) are very rare. There are some sites that sell good sounds effects (like .50BMG), but they cost several dollars per piece.

Concerning sounds when tank/vehicle is destroyed...well they are from Saving Private Ryan (like many other sounds as well) and they are not all that good.

I have replaced most of these sounds however, so if you want better sounds - just Email me and I will send them to you.
(around 500kb, zipped)

USMCGrunt · Post by **USMCGrunt** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 11:54 am

One sound I find particularly interesting occurs with Finnish troops. The sound (651 I think) sounds like someone rummaging in the silverware drawer or dropping a spoon in the garbage disposal while simultaneously stepping on a duck. Check it for yourself.

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USMCGrunt

-When it absolutely, positively, has to be destroyed overnight.

Elvis · Post by **Elvis** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 12:36 pm

As far as the background sounds approaching reality, I don't think that would be possible (or even desirable).

The "reality" of war is that it is LOUD

My limited combat experience (Kuwait, Somalia) has drummed that into my head more than anything. A fire team or squad engaging a target is loud enough to make it hard to think straight; I'd hate to have to multiply that by 100 and try to have my soundcard reproduce it...

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People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
-- George Orwell

Arralen · Post by **Arralen** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 4:10 pm

Originally posted by Elvis:
The "reality" of war is that it is LOUD.. A fire team or squad engaging a target is loud enough to make it hard to think straight; I'd hate to have to multiply that by 100 and try to have my soundcard reproduce it...

No problem with this - get yourself a decent amplifier (lots good ones out there.. or build one yourself.. ask me for details if you're interested) and the right speakers - I would recommend:
http://jblpro.com/pages/recording/4400.htm#4425

Yeap, I do have them at home

!!

Not 100% original, but loud enough to have flies falling from the wall

Arralen

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Charles22 · Post by **Charles22** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 6:51 pm

Back when I got my current Pentium III, over a year ago, I had included a speaker system with a subwoofer. It was very reasonably priced. Put a subwoofer on your set and the sounds take on a completely different meaning; it's a great investment.

Generally, over time, I prefer to listen to the game on something of a conversational level (easy enough to hear, unless you're eating chips, and not too loud). Recently, however I decided to crank the volume up to perhaps twice the comfortable level for me and you wouldn't believe how realistic it got all of the sudden.

What's a real gas, is if you connect that sort of setup to EAW. Man, you get in an ME109 for thirty minutes, at the higher sound level, and exit the game and get up, you literally feel as though you've been in a plane, because your feet have been feeling vibrations of the bass from the subwoofer that was making a great deal of sound depth for the engine.

Elvis · Post by **Elvis** » Thu Feb 08, 2001 10:34 pm

My point was that there is no way to accurately reproduce the "real" sounds of war. It is something that a sound system, no matter how expensive, cannot do.

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People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.
-- George Orwell

ruxius · Post by **ruxius** » Fri Feb 09, 2001 4:43 pm

I would add that no one has pointed that maybe should be some differences between the sounds of a burning Tiger and the destruction of a truck or a kettengrad or a strongpoint or even more an ammo depot...We are used to expect different sounds from weapons while they are firing..but things are too much simplified on the other side of 'fire-communication channel'...maybe this could be a line to be improved..

Greg McCarty · Post by **Greg McCarty** » Sun Feb 11, 2001 7:39 am

Originally posted by USMCGrunt:
One sound I find particularly interesting occurs with Finnish troops. The sound (651 I think) sounds like someone rummaging in the silverware drawer or dropping a spoon in the garbage disposal while simultaneously stepping on a duck. Check it for yourself.

I about laughed myself into a state of asphyxiation when I read this post.
Just what in the hell is firing or taking
place when this is heard?!

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Greg.

37 mill AA...
can suddenly ruin your day.

Peregrine Falcon · Post by **Peregrine Falcon** » Sun Feb 11, 2001 6:30 pm

Originally posted by Greg McCarty:
I about laughed myself into a state of asphyxiation when I read this post.
Just what in the hell is firing or taking
place when this is heard?!

Well - That is weird sound indeed.

But how about this "657.wav"?
Indiana Jones & LMG crossbreed??

(sorry Matrix, but this really sounds strange)

Alby · Post by **Alby** » Sun Feb 11, 2001 6:40 pm

Originally posted by Greg McCarty:
I about laughed myself into a state of asphyxiation when I read this post.
Just what in the hell is firing or taking
place when this is heard?!

Sounds like MG or subMG and a finnish soldier
yelling "punta" to me

Alby · Post by **Alby** » Sun Feb 11, 2001 6:42 pm

I think the matrix guys have done an excellent job with these sounds!
True I have modified some, the arty and Tank gun sounds, and that 50 cal sound...But compare these sounds to say any of the other sp games...In fact I replaced damn near evry sound in my sp3online game with spwaw sounds.
These sounds are fantastic IMHO..
Alby

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Peregrine Falcon · Post by **Peregrine Falcon** » Sun Feb 11, 2001 7:23 pm

Originally posted by Alby:
I think the matrix guys have done an excellent job with these sounds!
True I have modified some, the arty and Tank gun sounds, and that 50 cal sound...But compare these sounds to say any of the other sp games...In fact I replaced damn near evry sound in my sp3online game with spwaw sounds.
These sounds are fantastic IMHO..
Alby

[This message has been edited by Alby (edited February 11, 2001).]

Mostly all sounds are excellent. But there are some sounds that could be better.

(but that is the case with all aspects of every game there is!)

I dont know if only one person at Matrix did all these sfx. After all, its huge undertaking. There is hundreds of sounds and literally huge amounts of work with those.

But as I have stated before. Good (quality) sources are hard to come by......usually.

Infanterie · Post by **Infanterie** » Mon Feb 12, 2001 12:13 am

Originally posted by Alby:
Originally posted by Greg McCarty: I about laughed myself into a state of asphyxiation when I read this post.
Just what in the hell is firing or taking
place when this is heard?!

Sounds like MG or subMG and a finnish soldier
yelling "punta" to me

Well, lads, obviously you're not familiar to Suomi-SMG? Sounds pretty much what its supposed to, although I can't be 100% certain since I didn't have a chance to try one out while I was doing my service.

If you're interested, here's a quite good link providing history & information about the weapon in question:
http://www.guns.connect.fi/gow/suomi1.html

Oh, and that "punta" is actually "Tulta!", "Fire!" in english.

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Alby · Post by **Alby** » Mon Feb 12, 2001 12:18 am

Originally posted by Infanterie:
Well, lads, obviously you're not familiar to Suomi-SMG? Sounds pretty much what its supposed to, although I can't be 100% certain since I didn't have a chance to try one out while I was doing my service.

If you're interested, here's a quite good link providing history & information about the weapon in question:
http://www.guns.connect.fi/gow/suomi1.html

Oh, and that "punta" is actually "Tulta!", "Fire!" in english.

cool deal, knew it was something like that
Alby

Greg McCarty · Post by **Greg McCarty** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 10:15 am

You know, the thing I was laughing about was
USMCGrunt's discription involving the "silverware drawer" and the "duck." Actually, I'll bet the item he is describing is the Russian squad LMG. I rather like this
sound file. Based on what limited experience I have with small arms, the "duck"
sound is probably slugs striking a firm, but not rigid substance, such as wood or packed earth.

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Greg.

37 mill AA...
can suddenly ruin your day.

skukko · Post by **skukko** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 6:26 pm

Hello

This might be off topic, but as this is accurary talking, I thought some of you could be interested:

I started to use Nashorns at 43 Eastern Front, and there ain't nothing that can make me to change them to Elefants or other that kind of heavy TD. I started to look support for my Tiger company with Stug- G:s which did perform well, but something missed, and I moved to test Pz-IVh:s, good also, but too vulnerable. Then I moved on and changed Tigers order of battle to more sneaking and longrange sniping and have lost just few of them since. And for this Nashorn really fits in. Their job is to keep enemy armor manouvering by guarding roads and plains. In this way they secure that while Tiger hunts and moves towards known enemy formation, it can do it in quite safe. Offcourse there has to be infantry with spotting AT:s and other hard to spot infantry elements.

mosh

skukko · Post by **skukko** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 6:27 pm

oops wrong thread

sorry

mosh

BruceAZ_MatrixForum · Post by **BruceAZ_MatrixForum** » Sat Feb 17, 2001 9:41 pm

I can tell you that some of the sounds are very relistic. This I know from first hand experience while others I can only guess.

Either way, I think they are very good and make the game very enjoyable. I am sure some can be improved and I look forward to hearing them.

Bruce
Semper Fi

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"The most important element in war is man. And there are no tougher men than my China Marines." Major Gen. Archer 'Archy' Vandegrift, 1st Marine Division