Games that let you down
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About the AGEOD games, I enjoy them greatly, but I decided at some point to ignore most of the numbers, the under the hood things, a lot of the stats. I never look at a basic unit and read all those stats. I don't count supply points, for example, but just take a general look at supply in a region vs the size of my force. I know the rules needed to play but choose not to learn all the intricacies. I just play by feel. A good human opponent would probably destroy me because of the way I play, but I only play against the AI. Oddly, I think the way I play helps the AI and makes for a better game, for me at least.
WITE, I tried very hard to like, but just couldn't. I know it is a great game.
WITE, I tried very hard to like, but just couldn't. I know it is a great game.
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WitE isn't great, it's just big. Not the same thing. It's certainly turned me off WitW.
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I agree with you on MOO3.
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~Outpost - yep, that was a stinker. And MOO3.
And agree with the Ageod games..what the hell is going on?
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Wow, that is funny. I still reference this game as the worst game I bought at release.
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Did anyone else try to play Age of Sail II? Whew...
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Did anyone else try to play Age of Sail II? Whew...
I played a lot of it. The UI for fleet engagements was rather poor but it was possibly one of my favorite and one of the best games of all time (imho) because of some of the online clans that built up around it and the experiences I had playing human fleet engagements and simulating wars vs other clans.
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Napoleon, 1813 (Empire Interactive). If you confined yourself to reading the manual, you would see a clever, sophisticated take on a Napoleonic campaign - it looked like a great system (still does). In fact, the game is unplayable due to bugs, even with all patches applied.
+1. And Fields of Glory (not to be confused with Field of Glory!). And Peter Turcan's Waterloo. And .. gawd.. Universal Military Simulator [:(]
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Some games:
- Rise & rule of ancient Empires (Sierra/Impressions): great concept but poor implementation
- Fields of Glory (Mircoprose): great game but poor ai
- Wargamer: Napoleon 1913: a potentially great game but never could make it run (crashes)
I am sure there other games which will come in my mind.
- Rise & rule of ancient Empires (Sierra/Impressions): great concept but poor implementation
- Fields of Glory (Mircoprose): great game but poor ai
- Wargamer: Napoleon 1913: a potentially great game but never could make it run (crashes)
I am sure there other games which will come in my mind.
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Second War in the East. Massive disappointment. Was also let down by Eagle Day Bombing the Reich
just curious - what was bad about Eagle Day to the Bombing of the Reich - i dont have this one but i liked the look and scope of it and it has a good number of scenarios too it appeared.
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Civ 5... I mean... UGH!!! I like Civ2 better, that's how bad it is![:D]
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Let me see...
Braveheart. My god...
Oblivion. Level 1 eh? Well, at the bottom of dungeon doom you find...an apple! Oh, you are level 20? Make that a magic suit of armour! The level scaling killed the game.
Ultima 8. Super Avatar brothers.
Ultima 9. "But what is an Avatar??!!!" Just die for the love of god!
I am sure there are plenty of others over the years, but they spring to mind first. I am usually pretty good at dodging rubbish since I take my time and wait until the hype dies down to see what people think.
Braveheart. My god...
Oblivion. Level 1 eh? Well, at the bottom of dungeon doom you find...an apple! Oh, you are level 20? Make that a magic suit of armour! The level scaling killed the game.
Ultima 8. Super Avatar brothers.
Ultima 9. "But what is an Avatar??!!!" Just die for the love of god!
I am sure there are plenty of others over the years, but they spring to mind first. I am usually pretty good at dodging rubbish since I take my time and wait until the hype dies down to see what people think.
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Outpost on release was bad. Once they patched it to playability (and it took a few years) it was ok.
MOO 3 was sad. Just sad.
WiTE and Bombing the Reich were epic failures. I am a lot more carefull with my cash here. There are a lot of other Matrix games I own that are stellar, so take that with a boulder of salt.
Civ 5 was a pathetic rip off.
Any MMO currently on the market released in the last 10 years is a rip off.
The latest Sim game
I was interested, but from experience I held off. Smart move.
I never had a problem with Ageod.
MOO 3 was sad. Just sad.
WiTE and Bombing the Reich were epic failures. I am a lot more carefull with my cash here. There are a lot of other Matrix games I own that are stellar, so take that with a boulder of salt.
Civ 5 was a pathetic rip off.
Any MMO currently on the market released in the last 10 years is a rip off.
The latest Sim game


I never had a problem with Ageod.
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Outpost on release was bad. Once they patched it to playability (and it took a few years) it was ok.
MOO 3 was sad. Just sad.
WiTE and Bombing the Reich were epic failures. I am a lot more carefull with my cash here. There are a lot of other Matrix games I own that are stellar, so take that with a boulder of salt.
Civ 5 was a pathetic rip off.
Any MMO currently on the market released in the last 10 years is a rip off.
The latest Sim gameI was interested, but from experience I held off. Smart move.
I never had a problem with Ageod.
What precisely was Civ 5 ripping off? Itself?
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Don't know if I'm a masochist or a prostitute, I seem to like them all. [X(]
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Civ 5 is very good, in my opinion. Especially with its expansion packs.
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I buy few games - and to be honest, the majority of the time its not a case of games letting me down, but rather me letting myself down by buying in the first place.
After all its not as though, with forums, you tube and the like, we are devoid of info on a game before making the plunge. Why the hell did I buy Empire In Arms?
The one game that defo fell into the "Games that let me down" bracket is Civ 5. I was expecting an even further improved Civ 4 but felt let down by what the makers did to the game. From the aesthetic - white clouds replacing black (for undiscovered lands) to the dumbing down - removal of ships for transports, the game just felt all wrong....[:(]
After all its not as though, with forums, you tube and the like, we are devoid of info on a game before making the plunge. Why the hell did I buy Empire In Arms?
The one game that defo fell into the "Games that let me down" bracket is Civ 5. I was expecting an even further improved Civ 4 but felt let down by what the makers did to the game. From the aesthetic - white clouds replacing black (for undiscovered lands) to the dumbing down - removal of ships for transports, the game just felt all wrong....[:(]
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Agree with views on Napoleon 1813 and the Ageod titles, but I must say I really enjoy War in the East. A big let down for me was Tigers Unleashed by HPS. Tried a few times to play it, but just could not get into it at all.
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These threads are always great.
Games that one side loathe and then the counter attack fans disliking intensely the rival title.
The reality though, is I have yet to play a single digital game that is even good enough to lick the boots of the table based versions that created them.
Real role games use funny dice and are not social disasters pretending to be RPGs.
Real wargames are played on tables either with miniatures of thousands of counters.
And they all play just fine without a dithering idiot artificial intelligence.
I bought War in the East, and in a spate of inspired denial, I even bought the expansions. And now we have War in the West on the horizon. I pray I don't buy it, and likely will, why? because I'm an addict. Even though it has been revealed that the game permits absolutely shockingly unacceptable strategies that would be utterly impossible on a board game.
Has Fire in the East been done for on Vassal?
The less I say about anything using real time the better.
I love the heck out of Civilization V though, but, I will admit, no stacking at all? Come on we just needed to get rid of kill stacks, not stacking entirely... The recent Brave New World expansion though really ramped up the game.
Games that one side loathe and then the counter attack fans disliking intensely the rival title.
The reality though, is I have yet to play a single digital game that is even good enough to lick the boots of the table based versions that created them.
Real role games use funny dice and are not social disasters pretending to be RPGs.
Real wargames are played on tables either with miniatures of thousands of counters.
And they all play just fine without a dithering idiot artificial intelligence.
I bought War in the East, and in a spate of inspired denial, I even bought the expansions. And now we have War in the West on the horizon. I pray I don't buy it, and likely will, why? because I'm an addict. Even though it has been revealed that the game permits absolutely shockingly unacceptable strategies that would be utterly impossible on a board game.
Has Fire in the East been done for on Vassal?
The less I say about anything using real time the better.
I love the heck out of Civilization V though, but, I will admit, no stacking at all? Come on we just needed to get rid of kill stacks, not stacking entirely... The recent Brave New World expansion though really ramped up the game.
I have too many too complicated wargames, and not enough sufficiently interested non wargamer friends.