Playtesting RA 6.0

[John 3rd]

OK. I am home from Kansas City and HOPING my Chiefs go to 4--0. Sorry Michael but your team MUST FALL so KC can do that! [:D]

This air group issue MUST be due to work from FatR shifting Perfect War stuff over to this. FRUSTRATING. Wish my playtesters had spotted all this earlier but time to get it fixed. Not really a big deal just will take some time.

Going to work...

[John 3rd]

That would be FOUR and ZERO!!!

BANZAI (or is that Tomahawk CHOP) Kansas City!

I multi-tasked and got all the floatplane groups dealt with. Checked all CV--CVL--most CVEs.

To my knowledge the Commencement Bay Class didn't start with organic planes. Is this correct?

[John 3rd]

I am not---yet again--sending the scenario files until I KNOW WE ARE OK. Want to know if there are other issues.

The FP Group issues make no sense. It MUST have been something from FatR's work elsewhere. Have had to clean up a bunch of stuff and this just adds to the list.

[John 3rd]

I do not SEE anything more. Is anyone still looking? Should we try this again?

[Cpt Sherwood]

In Scenario 2:

CVE Commencent Bay has VRF-11F with 24 x F6F-5 and VRF-11FB with 24 x F4U-1D
CVE Block Island has VRF-15F with 24 x F6F-5 and VRF-15T with 24 x TBM-1C
CVE Gilbert Islands has VRF-12F with 24 x F6F-5 and VRF-12T with 24 x TBM-1C
CVE Cape Gloucester has VRF-13F with 24 x F6F-5 and VRF-13FB with 24 x F4U-1D
CVE Vella Gulf has VRF-14F with 24 x F6F-5 and VRF-14T with 24 x TBM-1C

So, no, the 5 Commencement Bay CVEs were set up to be aircraft replenishment CVEs.


It appears that R.A. 6.1 has more Commencement Bay CVEs than stock, but none of them have air
groups.

VRF-12F and VRF-12T are on CVL Chateau Thierry needs to be fixed
VRF-15F and VRF-15T are on CVL Varennes needs to be fixed
VRF-11F, VRF-11FB, VR-14F, VRF-14T, VRF-13F, and VRF-13FB do not exist in RA 6.1

[thinman]

Hi John,

there are so many CVE and VFMs ingame, you doesnt need airgroups for these late CVEs. The Tangier-Class Airgroups should be moved to Alameda or San Diego only as carrier capbable. So you have to train them for carrier use (in the first month on Lady Lex or so). They need some times to be carrier trained.

I dont know, where the failure with the floatplanes comes from. These groups are linked to old shipspots and the ships was moved to another spots (mostly to 50xx).

btw these japanese carrier south of the Philippines are a nightmare for allied player rescuing slow ships from Manila to Soerabaja. Was trying to drive back with POW and Repulse in night raids. Two times successfully, now he cut me off from Soerabaja I think. Interesting nightmare.

[Jo van der Pluym]

LCU

5800 Mobiele Eenheid Bn has as 2nd weapon 984 180kmm CD Gun. It must be Vickers Carden-Lloyd Tanks. And does not need the suffix Bn.

5808 KNIL Mariener Bde. The Dutch Marines where no part of the KNIL but Navy. And Mariener mus Mariniers

5809 1st KNIL (T) Bde must be Tiger Bde. This was also no KNIL unit but volunteers of the Dutch Army

5823 Marinier Bn must be Mariniers Bn and also not a KNIL unit but Navy.

I do miss Korps Insulinde compagnie size Commando unit. This is also not a KNIL unit. But a part was from the KNIL.

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: thinman

Hi John,

there are so many CVE and VFMs ingame, you doesnt need airgroups for these late CVEs. The Tangier-Class Airgroups should be moved to Alameda or San Diego only as carrier capbable. So you have to train them for carrier use (in the first month on Lady Lex or so). They need some times to be carrier trained.

I dont know, where the failure with the floatplanes comes from. These groups are linked to old shipspots and the ships was moved to another spots (mostly to 50xx).

btw these japanese carrier south of the Philippines are a nightmare for allied player rescuing slow ships from Manila to Soerabaja. Was trying to drive back with POW and Repulse in night raids. Two times successfully, now he cut me off from Soerabaja I think. Interesting nightmare.

ThinMan: I concur with that thinking. I am going to have those air units arrive at San Diego on their historic times and let the player decide what they want to do. There are SOOOOO many Marine and extra units coming in they can easily be used by these CVEs. We did add a few more and so that helps to further the Allied cause.

Having CarDIv2 (KB-3) at Babeldoap will be horrific for the Allies. Given the entire point of RA (gaining the DEI ASAP) it makes great sense for that to happen.

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym


LCU

5800 Mobiele Eenheid Bn has as 2nd weapon 984 180kmm CD Gun. It must be Vickers Carden-Lloyd Tanks. And does not need the suffix Bn.

5808 KNIL Mariener Bde. The Dutch Marines where no part of the KNIL but Navy. And Mariener mus Mariniers

5809 1st KNIL (T) Bde must be Tiger Bde. This was also no KNIL unit but volunteers of the Dutch Army

5823 Marinier Bn must be Mariniers Bn and also not a KNIL unit but Navy.

I do miss Korps Insulinde compagnie size Commando unit. This is also not a KNIL unit. But a part was from the KNIL.

Should be easy enough to fix. Can you provide the stats for Korps Insulinde?

[John 3rd]

For those who have gotten the files and those still waiting I apologize for the all the issues. I wanted SOOOOOOOO badly to get the release done that I hurried it and feel horrible.

Am currently working on a RA Group Email list so I can send to EVERYONE at the same time.

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym


LCU

5800 Mobiele Eenheid Bn has as 2nd weapon 984 180kmm CD Gun. It must be Vickers Carden-Lloyd Tanks. And does not need the suffix Bn.

5808 KNIL Mariener Bde. The Dutch Marines where no part of the KNIL but Navy. And Mariener mus Mariniers

5809 1st KNIL (T) Bde must be Tiger Bde. This was also no KNIL unit but volunteers of the Dutch Army

5823 Marinier Bn must be Mariniers Bn and also not a KNIL unit but Navy.

I do miss Korps Insulinde compagnie size Commando unit. This is also not a KNIL unit. But a part was from the KNIL.

What device are the Carden-Lloyd Tks?

[Jo van der Pluym]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

Should be easy enough to fix. Can you provide the stats for Korps Insulinde?

Here I have some links about it what I have posted on the forum.

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tm.asp?m=2884097&mpage=2&key=korps%2Cinsulinde&#2885029

tm.asp?m=1135984&mpage=2&key=korps%2Cinsulinde&#1139711

tm.asp?m=827786&mpage=1&key=korps%2Cinsulinde&#828210

tm.asp?m=3075207&mpage=11&key=korps%2Ci ... e&#3348525

[Jo van der Pluym]

ORIGINAL: John 3rd

ORIGINAL: Jo van der Pluym


LCU

5800 Mobiele Eenheid Bn has as 2nd weapon 984 180kmm CD Gun. It must be Vickers Carden-Lloyd Tanks. And does not need the suffix Bn.

5808 KNIL Mariener Bde. The Dutch Marines where no part of the KNIL but Navy. And Mariener mus Mariniers

5809 1st KNIL (T) Bde must be Tiger Bde. This was also no KNIL unit but volunteers of the Dutch Army

5823 Marinier Bn must be Mariniers Bn and also not a KNIL unit but Navy.

I do miss Korps Insulinde compagnie size Commando unit. This is also not a KNIL unit. But a part was from the KNIL.

What device are the Carden-Lloyd Tks?

The following link goes about the KNIL armour.

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/Stor ... Armor.html

The following link goes about Dutch armour, with for a part KNIL.

http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/hol/Netherlands.htm

[John 3rd]

As to the CVE replacement squadrons (11F/11FB/14F/13F/13FB) I spread them out over the Commencement Bay, Black Island, Gilbert Islands, Cape Gloucester, and Vella Gulf. Just placed one unit/CVE. The remaining four detailed above are assigned as the squadrons for the new Varennes and Chateau Thierry. They shall come in with the CVLs.

[Cpt Sherwood]

It doesn't matter what you do, it is your mod, have fun.

[John 3rd]

The CVLs have to come in with organic aircraft squadrons. Makes sense to pull four replacement squadrons and 'deploy' them.

A better use for two of the replacement squadrons was to turn them into 'Training Squadrons' that are available Day ONE on Dec 7th. The whole goal is to provide some real opportunity for the Allied Player to form a limited training program like what the Japanese get. Eight squadrons (3 Army/3 Navy/2 Marine) SHOULD provide just that!

[John 3rd]

As to the Dutch Comments Jo makes I see some room to work but am also limited by the Editor:

5800 Mobiele Eenheid Bn: Dropped device 984 and replaced with 18 Alvis Armored Cars. While not accurate (since the Carden-Lloyd Tks are not in the database) the Armored Cars provide at least a 'spirit' to the unit instead of something that did not exist with the unit (180kmm CD Guns). If there is something existing in the device list that is closer Jo please let me know.

5808 Cannot be changed from KNIL colors to Navy because that option is not in the Editor.

5809 Fixed to simply Tiger Bde.

5823 Same issue as 5808.

[John 3rd]

Neglected to say I changed the name of 5808 as well. Only problem was running out of space. Had to cut off the --s.

[John 3rd]

Got the Group Email list put together and will use it once this is wrapped up.

[John 3rd]

I open the store this morning. If no other suggestions or reports of errors occurs between now and then, I'll shoot the revised scenario files with all the fixes to the group email. Will Post when I do that.