1EyedJacks VS Bullwinkle58: A knife fight has no house rules

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Massive air bombardments. I'm not much a fan of arty as it increases the CHI exp too fast. But, I would have pretty much the entire IJA bomber force there, all sally's. 6-8K ft level. Plan to DA every 7 - 10 days. Get more fresh troops there to rotate a bit. Be sure you have your command HQ in range and prepped. Get all your corp HQ's in hex and prepped to have all the support troops you can available. 3 months ...

Yup - I'm thinking I need to build my prep value up to 100% (currently in the mid 50s) and see if I can cycle leaders with a higher value into the HQ units.

I was thinking more arty too - as suggested by Chickenboy - along with air bombing. How much will the Chinese units go up in EXP against arty attacks - any clue?

Does anyone have a good solution for increasing supplies in the region of Chungking? I've run over 150,000 tons of supplies up the river and that seemed to help a bit with some of the bases that were running red/yellow !s. Air transport is such a royal pain and doesn't seem to help much... Unfortunately my working knowledge of supplies in this game is very much trial and error with heavy emphasis on the error part.

I'm kinda afraid to run just armor\engineers at Chungking. It looks too much like a good way to lose my armor units and trash my engineers.

What do you use as indicators of low supplies? I pretty much bomb like a mofo until I see the enemy units taking lotsa casualties.

[Lokasenna]

Granted this experience was against the AI, but I think the situation is similar to what you have here. The defenders completely cut off, no supply except what's in the hex, etc. I had hundreds (400 or so eventually) of 2E bombers set at 8k altitude bombing every. single. day. It used a crapload of supply. I had to clear out Manchukuo of bombers entirely, and almost all of the air support. I only had to reduce the forts from their starting level 6, but it still took 2-4 months, during which time I attacked a dozen or two dozen times, each time waiting until my divisions had recuperated enough to rebuild their parts... I moved the CEA HQ to Kweiyang to help with supplies as much as possible.

On the plus side, I ended up with immense numbers of GrdB veterans.

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

Granted this experience was against the AI, but I think the situation is similar to what you have here. The defenders completely cut off, no supply except what's in the hex, etc. I had hundreds (400 or so eventually) of 2E bombers set at 8k altitude bombing every. single. day. It used a crapload of supply. I had to clear out Manchukuo of bombers entirely, and almost all of the air support. I only had to reduce the forts from their starting level 6, but it still took 2-4 months, during which time I attacked a dozen or two dozen times, each time waiting until my divisions had recuperated enough to rebuild their parts... I moved the CEA HQ to Kweiyang to help with supplies as much as possible.

On the plus side, I ended up with immense numbers of GrdB veterans.

Yeah - I'll be doing something similar but it'll take me a few to ramp up air groups in this area as I'm heavily invested in a Burma campaign at the moment.

Thanks for the share and thoughts.

[1EyedJacks]

29 JUL 42

A lot of sub sightings and duds this turn from Steve. He also bombards Wewak with 3 cruisers and a pair of DD.

My air ops are the same as usual – targets in Burma/China/DEI.

I move another division to Pegu and Moulmein. I’m pushing troops from Rahaeng down to get after those three Chinese Corps Steve has parked near Moulmein.

Orders for the 30th include an attack at Tavoy. I’m also getting the 65th Brigade ready for Java.

[1EyedJacks]

Sent a turn off last night.

Hey - does anyone have favorite locations around the map for raiding convoys? I'm thinking a 2CL & 2DD raider TF with an oiler to work for refueling...

[1EyedJacks]

7.31.42
1. Tavoy falls to another deliberate attack. Should I put 4 houses on Tavoy or should I buy a hotel?

2. Sweep of Eniwetok shows no enemy fighters.

3. A Steve sub encountered my Amphib TF. It got a good enough look at the ship types for Steve 2 be able to figure it out (I hate to admit it and 4 sure don't tell him but... He is kind of a bright guy for a transplant-Minnesotan). Someday you should ask him why he left California for Minnesota - shudder. It's a sad-sad story. Something about too much time at sea under water so he wanted to go far-far inland... The the state with a thousand lakes... I'm telling you - it's a sad story. Anyways - I digress... He’ll at least know what it is but maybe not what it’s for… Naw, I’m sure Steve’ll know. Question is what’ll he do about it. Sorty his carriers?

4. Some sub activity – normal stuff. Steve is ex-submariner so he likes this stuff.

5. I spank allied troops @ Rangoon from the air.

6. I spank Soerabaja.

7. I spank Chungking.

8. Steve sends more 4E to Rangoon. I increased my CAP last turn. I shot down a few and damaged a lot of ‘em and they did next to no damage to Rangoon.

9. Steve flies some 4E @ Roi-Namur. I had 16 A6M2 in the air and 20 on Standby VS 3 Liberators. Steve loses 1 and the other two fly home wounded. I have 10 A6M2 in the shop… I hate 4E…

Stack near Pegu went from 13 this turn to 40 this turn... and they show the tit pointed @ Pegu which means they are marching... This'll probably be all those Chinese that came over the mountains to see what they could see. Will they see victory or will they see death? Inquiring minds want to know!



I've got the turn and am working it.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks
I have 10 A6M2 in the shop… I hate 4E…

I feel good anytime I lose less fighters than they lose 4E's. Until George that is.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

Sent a turn off last night.

Hey - does anyone have favorite locations around the map for raiding convoys? I'm thinking a 2CL & 2DD raider TF with an oiler to work for refueling...

Try the hex row due west of Perth towards map edge in the IO. Convoys coming direct to Perth will ply this path-makes for nice ambush opportunities-particularly if you haven't used it before. [8D]

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks
I have 10 A6M2 in the shop… I hate 4E…

I feel good anytime I lose less fighters than they lose 4E's. Until George that is.

George still needs experienced fighters... Still - I hear you. No armor for the fighters yet.

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

Sent a turn off last night.

Hey - does anyone have favorite locations around the map for raiding convoys? I'm thinking a 2CL & 2DD raider TF with an oiler to work for refueling...

Try the hex row due west of Perth towards map edge in the IO. Convoys coming direct to Perth will ply this path-makes for nice ambush opportunities-particularly if you haven't used it before. [8D]

Thanks. It's kinda like showing someone your favorite fishing holes... I'll give it a try.

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks
I have 10 A6M2 in the shop… I hate 4E…

I feel good anytime I lose less fighters than they lose 4E's. Until George that is.

George still needs experienced fighters... Still - I hear you. No armor for the fighters yet.

Yeah, and those 4x20mm really help too.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

Sent a turn off last night.

Hey - does anyone have favorite locations around the map for raiding convoys? I'm thinking a 2CL & 2DD raider TF with an oiler to work for refueling...

Try the hex row due west of Perth towards map edge in the IO. Convoys coming direct to Perth will ply this path-makes for nice ambush opportunities-particularly if you haven't used it before. [8D]

Thanks. It's kinda like showing someone your favorite fishing holes... I'll give it a try.

Make it sufficiently distant from Perth that his air search doesn't pick you up. It's worth the price of admission to see the surprise on their faces. [:)]

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy




Try the hex row due west of Perth towards map edge in the IO. Convoys coming direct to Perth will ply this path-makes for nice ambush opportunities-particularly if you haven't used it before. [8D]

Thanks. It's kinda like showing someone your favorite fishing holes... I'll give it a try.

Make it sufficiently distant from Perth that his air search doesn't pick you up. It's worth the price of admission to see the surprise on their faces. [:)]

Sweeet - I'm looking 4ward 2 giving it a go. I need to start cropping up in his back-waters here and there...

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo



I feel good anytime I lose less fighters than they lose 4E's. Until George that is.

George still needs experienced fighters... Still - I hear you. No armor for the fighters yet.

Yeah, and those 4x20mm really help too.

<grin> Yup but those flippin' 4E still go through Japanese fighters like crap through a goose...

[PaxMondo]

I know .. what we need is a P47 armed with 6x20mm CL. [:D][:D][:D]

[1EyedJacks]

8.1.42
1. I’m sending the 11th Special Base Force and the 12th Base Forec from Saigon to Bangkok via TF162 to add air support for Bangkok (supporting operations in the Burma Theatre).
--a. 8.2.42 – TF is 6 hexes south
2. I’m sending the 1st JAAF Base Force @ Kota Bharu to Bangkok by rail. Pack/1.
--a. 8.2.42 - Completed packing will be on the rail next turn.
3. FYI – Steve’s stack near Pegu jumped from 13 to 40 units and appears to be marching on Pegu.
4. I’ve ordered a Deliberate attack @ Rangoon where Steve “only” has 21 units.
--a. This didn’t go over very well…
Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 73263 troops, 920 guns, 1617 vehicles, Assault Value = 3237
Defending force 90099 troops, 954 guns, 1200 vehicles, Assault Value = 3283

Japanese adjusted assault: 1780
Allied adjusted defense: 6009

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 3

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), experience(-)

Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
10390 casualties reported
Squads: 76 destroyed, 613 disabled
Non Combat: 57 destroyed, 69 disabled
Engineers: 68 destroyed, 59 disabled
Guns lost 57 (16 destroyed, 41 disabled)
Vehicles lost 100 (9 destroyed, 91 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
2576 casualties reported
Squads: 71 destroyed, 163 disabled
Non Combat: 18 destroyed, 28 disabled
Engineers: 2 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 25 (4 destroyed, 21 disabled)
Vehicles lost 45 (37 destroyed, 8 disabled)
Units destroyed 1
5. Bombers and CAP from all over to cover base and hammer enemy @ Rangoon.
6. Naval Bombardment @ Rangoon.
a. This did not take place – I 4got…
7. Set CVL TF from Truk to merge with CV TF NW of Eniwetok
8. Set CV TF from Kwajalein to merge with CVL TF NW of Eniwetok
9. Set F Sweep from Ponape
10. Set G-ATK from Ponape w/escort
11. Chungking 6378AV
--a. 8.2.42 – 6551AV
12. Rangoon 3183AV
--a. 8.2.42 - Now 2580AV

[Sieppo]

Read through the whole thing in one sitting. Very interesting as a Japanese player also (no HR in 9/42), thanks . Now off to Bullwinkle's AAR [:D] ->

EDIT: I'm sure he's feeling the pain of losing those 3 CV's..

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: Sieppo

Read through the whole thing in one sitting. Very interesting as a Japanese player also (no HR in 9/42), thanks . Now off to Bullwinkle's AAR [:D] ->

EDIT: I'm sure he's feeling the pain of losing those 3 CV's..

Naw - the allies get plenty of extras. But it was sure fun to sink a few. [;)]

[1EyedJacks]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

I know .. what we need is a P47 armed with 6x20mm CL. [:D][:D][:D]

True dat!

[1EyedJacks]

So I attacked Eniwetok with a full division of INF and a regiment of Engineers (48AV). Over two days the Engineer unit was destroyed and the Division you can see in the picture...

Has anyone seen anything like this B4? And if I did something obviously wrong and you see it, can you school me?

Below is from the 4th

Ground combat at Eniwetok (127,108)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4171 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 40

Defending force 4890 troops, 67 guns, 150 vehicles, Assault Value = 119

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 125

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 4)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-)

Japanese ground losses:
1957 casualties reported
Squads: 35 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 49 destroyed, 117 disabled
Engineers: 37 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Assaulting units:
52nd Division
8th Engineer Regiment

Defending units:
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
1st USMC Parachute Battalion
148th Infantry Regiment
3rd USMC Parachute Battalion
33rd Aviation Base Force
3rd USN Naval Construction Battalion
804th Engineer Aviation Battalion
7th USN Naval Construction Battalion

Below is from the 3rd

Ground combat at Eniwetok (127,108)

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 6922 troops, 94 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 262

Defending force 4894 troops, 67 guns, 150 vehicles, Assault Value = 119

Japanese adjusted assault: 0

Allied adjusted defense: 88

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 99 (fort level 3)

Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), preparation(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+), disruption(-), supply(-)

Japanese ground losses:
8829 casualties reported
Squads: 251 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 17 destroyed, 60 disabled
Engineers: 68 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 86 (86 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units destroyed 1

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled

Assaulting units:
52nd Division
8th Engr Rgt /1

Defending units:
148th Infantry Regiment
1st USMC Parachute Battalion
102nd Combat Engineer Regiment
3rd USMC Parachute Battalion
804th Engineer Aviation Battalion
3rd USN Naval Construction Battalion
33rd Aviation Base Force
7th USN Naval Construction Battalion