Database question.

smudge56 · Post by **smudge56** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:10 pm

Please don't shoot the pigeon. I had a look at the uk aircraft carriers but couldn't find the new ones which are being built. Is it because they are still being built and won't be active inthe near future? If I missed them I'm sorry.

Der Zeitgeist · Post by **Der Zeitgeist** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:14 pm

They're in, look for "R08 Queen Elizabeth".

smudge56 · Post by **smudge56** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:20 pm

See I knew I bloody missed them. Thanks mate

bsq · Post by **bsq** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:26 pm

And there is a serious issue with the magazine contents of the class.

We, the UK, do not use cluster munitions any more.
There are no slots for AMRAAMs
The SRAAMs would be AIM-132 not obsolete AIM-9L
PAVEWAY II's would be III's

The loadouts for the F-35B are so out of kilter with the ship intended to operate them, you could not use them at all [:(]

smudge56 · Post by **smudge56** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:28 pm

Blimey didn't realise that.

bsq · Post by **bsq** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:32 pm

Who ever built it copied the contents of the 'Ark' - oops [:-]

Der Zeitgeist · Post by **Der Zeitgeist** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:32 pm

ORIGINAL: Blighty56

Blimey didn't realise that.

No reason not to use them in your scenario, though, you can change the magazine loadout to something more realistic!

smudge56 · Post by **smudge56** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:38 pm

Yeah doh forgot that. Lol.

I'm impressed they are in.

By the way which version are they as the government kept changing it's mind whether to have catapult or not.

bsq · Post by **bsq** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:39 pm

ORIGINAL: Der Zeitgeist

ORIGINAL: Blighty56

Blimey didn't realise that.

No reason not to use them in your scenario, though, you can change the magazine loadout to something more realistic!

Granted, but it should be fixed because it is a blatant error and a more realistic load out would take a long time to set up and would only be relevant to that instance of the ship (with the underlying DB carrying the error).

mikmykWS · Post by **mikmykWS** » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:50 pm

Logged a ticket to have it looked at. We can update but right now its still speculative as the ships aren't in service yet and the air group loadouts haven't been established. So not really sure too many delta's are worth it especially when you can easily add records yourself. We'll take a look though and make any changes that make sense. If anybody has any links to good sources please do post.

Thanks!

Mike

ComDev · Post by **ComDev** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:03 pm

Fixed [8D]

smudge56 · Post by **smudge56** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 5:28 pm

As the government kept changing its mind and penny pinching. Are they catapult capable or not?

smudge56 · Post by **smudge56** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:02 pm

Just been looking into these new carriers I found out that there were proposals to build some big carriers in the 60's designated CVA-01 as again politicians cancelled this project. Not important at the moment it would be nice to have these in the database.

A question to our resident Royal Navy person as at the moment we don't have any carriers how are we keeping up our carrier based training? Obviously over time skills are lost.

mattpenfold · Post by **mattpenfold** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:46 pm

I imagine that we send people off to train with the Italians, French, Spanish and Americans. Or maybe we just don't don't bother. Both scenarios are possible.

smudge56 · Post by **smudge56** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:08 pm

Great all that experience and knowledge lost then we start all over again from the beginning.

mikmykWS · Post by **mikmykWS** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:12 pm

ORIGINAL: Blighty56

Just been looking into these new carriers I found out that there were proposals to build some big carriers in the 60's designated CVA-01 as again politicians cancelled this project. Not important at the moment it would be nice to have these in the database.

A question to our resident Royal Navy person as at the moment we don't have any carriers how are we keeping up our carrier based training? Obviously over time skills are lost.

They're training with US Marine Pilots.

http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/News-and-Ev ... -F35-Pilot

smudge56 · Post by **smudge56** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:28 pm

Thanks for that mike sounds like they have ground crew there as well. I was wondering also operating a carrier requires, obviously experience in working in that environment. Now I know we have our helicopter carrier so I suppose some of our experience will still be kept going with that. But carrier operations are different I'm just concerned of the gap between scraping our old carriers and the time when we eventually get the newer larger carriers. Also where will they operate from and will these ports need upgrading?
I find this subject very interesting.

bsq · Post by **bsq** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:35 pm

Several US carriers have visited Portsmouth over the years, so they'll be no issue with these smaller carriers. Truth be told we haven't had a proper carrier since Ark Royal (as in the old Ark Royal).

smudge56 · Post by **smudge56** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:38 pm

Yes I was just reading about her. I just cannot understand the logic in scrapping our carriers before getting the new ones.

mikmykWS · Post by **mikmykWS** » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:46 pm

I think its clear the that the UK mod took some major cuts and gaps in capability to fund the future more or less.Sign of the times unfortunately.

Mike

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