Dutch unit appears at Batavia after 1123r beta install

[SqzMyLemon]

Attached is a save of my Japanese PBEM after installing the 1123r beta. A Dutch unit has appeared at Batavia which shouldn't be there. I'm running DaBabes Lite B. Any suggestions or a fix? Thanks.

[geofflambert]

You should be asking this in the mod thread for DaBabes. They made many changes as far as order of battle goes. The unit that starts at Nome in stock isn't there for instance in DaBigBabes C. So your Dutch unit may be an intentional change. You can make your own changes in the editor if your opponent agrees to it.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

You should be asking this in the mod thread for DaBabes. They made many changes as far as order of battle goes. The unit that starts at Nome in stock isn't there for instance in DaBigBabes C. So your Dutch unit may be an intentional change. You can make your own changes in the editor if your opponent agrees to it.

The unit appeared there after we upgraded to the beta. Wasn´t there before the upgrade. Its an ongoing PBEM. [:)]

[SqzMyLemon]

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

You should be asking this in the mod thread for DaBabes. They made many changes as far as order of battle goes. The unit that starts at Nome in stock isn't there for instance in DaBigBabes C. So your Dutch unit may be an intentional change. You can make your own changes in the editor if your opponent agrees to it.

I wasn't clear in my original post. We're in Oct. 1942 and Java has been under Japanese control for some time. After installing the beta a Dutch unit now appears at Batavia which is impossible under the circumstances. It's not an OOB issue.

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[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

You should be asking this in the mod thread for DaBabes. They made many changes as far as order of battle goes. The unit that starts at Nome in stock isn't there for instance in DaBigBabes C. So your Dutch unit may be an intentional change. You can make your own changes in the editor if your opponent agrees to it.

I wasn't clear in my original post. We're in Oct. 1942 and Java has been under Japanese control for some time. After installing the beta a Dutch unit now appears at Batavia which is impossible under the circumstances. It's not an OOB issue.

Actually, I think it could be an OOB issue. I would let John3 know about it.

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

You should be asking this in the mod thread for DaBabes. They made many changes as far as order of battle goes. The unit that starts at Nome in stock isn't there for instance in DaBigBabes C. So your Dutch unit may be an intentional change. You can make your own changes in the editor if your opponent agrees to it.

I wasn't clear in my original post. We're in Oct. 1942 and Java has been under Japanese control for some time. After installing the beta a Dutch unit now appears at Batavia which is impossible under the circumstances. It's not an OOB issue.

Actually, I think it could be an OOB issue. I would let John3 know about it.

But the BETA is only an exe right? So how could that effect the OOB in an ongoing PBEM?

[PaxMondo]

If John put an allied unit into the IJ OOB area ... something like that maybe ... Michael has added a lot of checks for finding "bugs" ... Just think I would PM John as well on this one just as an FYI.

[witpqs]

If I understand post #4 correctly, an Allied unit appeared at an IJ owned base. If so, that's a bug.

[SqzMyLemon]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

If I understand post #4 correctly, an Allied unit appeared at an IJ owned base. If so, that's a bug.

Yes, Batavia is owned and garrisoned by the Japanese. A Dutch unit has magically appeared in Batavia right after installing the beta.

[Crackaces]

ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

ORIGINAL: witpqs

If I understand post #4 correctly, an Allied unit appeared at an IJ owned base. If so, that's a bug.

Yes, Batavia is owned and garrisoned by the Japanese. A Dutch unit has magically appeared in Batavia right after installing the beta.

[Humor=on] Would that unit be led by Walter Christopher Eckland? [/Humor] (Reference "Father Goose") [8D]

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: SqzMyLemon

ORIGINAL: witpqs

If I understand post #4 correctly, an Allied unit appeared at an IJ owned base. If so, that's a bug.

Yes, Batavia is owned and garrisoned by the Japanese. A Dutch unit has magically appeared in Batavia right after installing the beta.

Just a thought. Could it be a display bug and its not really there? If you just end the turn I can load it up and check.

[JocMeister]

Nm...

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: witpqs

If I understand post #4 correctly, an Allied unit appeared at an IJ owned base. If so, that's a bug.

No question, but they are not playing an official scenario. It might be exe, but it also might be OOB on the scenario designer. I see no downside in informing the scenario designer, but maybe somebody doesn't like John3? [:D] Maybe they are afraid of him? [;)]

[JocMeister]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: witpqs

If I understand post #4 correctly, an Allied unit appeared at an IJ owned base. If so, that's a bug.

No question, but they are not playing an official scenario. It might be exe, but it also might be OOB on the scenario designer. I see no downside in informing the scenario designer, but maybe somebody doesn't like John3? [:D] Maybe they are afraid of him? [;)]

I´ll drop J3 a note tomorrow! [:)]

[JocMeister]

Whoops! [:D]

Problem solved. I´m going to let Joseph explain this one.... [:'(]

[witpqs]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: witpqs

If I understand post #4 correctly, an Allied unit appeared at an IJ owned base. If so, that's a bug.

No question, but they are not playing an official scenario. It might be exe, but it also might be OOB on the scenario designer. I see no downside in informing the scenario designer, but maybe somebody doesn't like John3? [:D] Maybe they are afraid of him? [;)]

Even if the OOB has a unit appearing at a certain place on a certain date, if the enemy holds that base then the unit is supposed to stay on the arrival queue. So even if an OOB variance with Scenario 1 it would still be a bug if as described.

But it seems we are awaiting some news that made the report moot?!

[SqzMyLemon]

Not sure if it is problem solved or not. I saved a test turn for Jocke and he confirms there is a Dutch unit at Batavia and apparently it's somehow been there for some time, although it only appeared on the map for me after installing the beta. I can't explain that and I'm not privy to the unit in question so I have no idea if it's an official OOB or mod added unit. Jocke will have to confirm the unit and if it's stock or not with whoever, John or Michael, it makes no difference to me. My concern is if any intelligence is being gleaned that I'm not aware of. Until that little green unit is removed form the otherwise brilliant red of Java it won't be problem solved. [:-]

[JocMeister]

Here is the unit in question.

Its been there are far back as May (oldest save I could find). I just havn´t seen it before. No idea if its left from the Java assault or spawned at Batavia later. I only see the usual stuff I would see if I had a unit in the hex. 3 enemy units in the hex.

Joseph are you sure it appeared after the BETA upgrade or have you simply missed its there?

[SqzMyLemon]

ORIGINAL: JocMeister

Joseph are you sure it appeared after the BETA upgrade or have you simply missed its there?

Look at the prep and supply. If it's been there as long as you think the prep would be 100% by now. Plus, how could that unit possibly have any supply? I wouldn't have missed this unit. It appeared just after installing the beta.