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In case anyone missed it here is what the printed map and printed books look like for World in Flames.

The map is so big we didnt have room in our office to pay it out and take a photo so here is a to scale render of what it loook slike using the actual artwork:

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Yes it is the largest map you've ever seen! The map is an optional extra or can be bought o its own. The hexes are to scale with the counter from the board game and it can be used by board game players. It is the first world map ever for WiF

And here is how the 3 hard back books that come as standard with the game look.

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Yes they are really awesome.

If you have any interest in WiF at all this is a must have release! Please let anyone who might be interested know about it.

We will be at Essen with 50 early access copied on a first come first served basis. Get there early. We don't expect these to be on the stand for long!
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ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

In case anyone missed it here is what the printed map and printed books look like for World in Flames.

The map is so big we didnt have room in our office to pay it out and take a photo so here is a to scale render of what it loook slike using the actual artwork:

Image

Yes it is the largest map you've ever seen! The map is an optional extra or can be bought o its own. The hexes are to scale with the counter from the board game and it can be used by board game players. It is the first world map ever for WiF

And here is how the 3 hard back books that come as standard with the game look.

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Yes they are really awesome.

If you have any interest in WiF at all this is a must have release! Please let anyone who might be interested know about it.

We will be at Essen with 50 early access copied on a first come first served basis. Get there early. We don't expect these to be on the stand for long!
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Mmmm... These maps are about as useful as a chocolate teapot. They are too big to fit into my house and even if I could, how would I actually play the game? i.e. how would I be able to lean over to reach the stacks? Impossible!

But you know what? I just don't CARE, I gotta have me those maps!!! Wow..simply....Wow [&o][&o] and as for the manuals [8D][8D]
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ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

In case anyone missed it here is what the printed map and printed books look like for World in Flames.

The map is so big we didnt have room in our office to pay it out and take a photo so here is a to scale render of what it loook slike using the actual artwork:

Image

Yes it is the largest map you've ever seen! The map is an optional extra or can be bought o its own. The hexes are to scale with the counter from the board game and it can be used by board game players. It is the first world map ever for WiF

And here is how the 3 hard back books that come as standard with the game look.

Image

Yes they are really awesome.

If you have any interest in WiF at all this is a must have release! Please let anyone who might be interested know about it.

We will be at Essen with 50 early access copied on a first come first served basis. Get there early. We don't expect these to be on the stand for long!

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GIMME! GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!!!!!
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(er....whats the price?)
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I dread to think. Starting to look like the sort of thing you would get as a retirement present... WiF or a set of golf clubs. [:(]

This is where previous over-pricing comes home to roost, I think. No point in the 'thousands of hours' routine as I already have several games good for that.
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I dread to think. Starting to look like the sort of thing you would get as a retirement present... WiF or a set of golf clubs. [:(]

This is where previous over-pricing comes home to roost, I think. No point in the 'thousands of hours' routine as I already have several games good for that.
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Okay, so don't buy it [&:]

How do you know its over-priced? On what basis? I am sure you have seen the man hours, the blood, sweat and tears taken to try and bring this monster to market - with much more of that still to come.

What is the alternative? Yes, that is a rhetorical question - the game is not made is the answer as no programmer would touch such a job.

As for the "No point in the 'thousands of hours' routine as I already have several games good for that". Well maybe you have, but that is you and does not mean the "routine" is not worth repeating. Yes it is - World In Flames is highly replayable, infectious, challenging and fun and will over time cost nothing if you look at it from a cost vs time stance.
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warspite..as it seems it will be physical only..you may have to pay up to Customs aswell..one reason I always go digital..I remember they wanted £30 for Command Ops!!
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Once the AI is in, i may be in too.
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@Warspite

If the pieces were magnetized and the map made of material to attach the pieces. One could keep the map on a large wall and move the pieces with a small step ladder. It would be like having your own war room. Just dreaming.
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@Warspite

If the pieces were magnetized and the map made of material to attach the pieces. One could keep the map on a large wall and move the pieces with a small step ladder. It would be like having your own war room. Just dreaming.
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Its a nice dream [:)] I could ask the Jacksonville Jaguar Cheerleaders to move the pieces around for me [:)]


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warspite..as it seems it will be physical only..you may have to pay up to Customs aswell..one reason I always go digital..I remember they wanted £30 for Command Ops!!
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Yes but it is what it is. If I want it (which I do) and can afford it (which I hope) then I will buy it. If Matrix have priced it too high - including customs or VAT or whatever - then I won't. But either way I am sure they won't have over priced it - they have been around long enough to have some idea on pricing a product.
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Looks impressive. I have to confess being one ignorant who has never heard of "World in Flames" before... [X(]

Isn't it amazing? This game is not released yet, and we've already got the usual "Oh it's over-prized and I won't buy it" crap. [8|]
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Looks impressive. I have to confess being one ignorant who has never heard of "World in Flames" before... [X(]

Isn't it amazing? This game is not released yet, and we've already got the usual "Oh it's over-prized and I won't buy it" crap. [8|]
warspite1

Yeah - unbelievable

Its a great game and I would encourage you to visit the forum and have a nosey around if you think a strategic level WWII game might be your bag.
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Not talking about the price of the actual game..but the possibility of a big customs fee. £30 they wanted for Command Ops and a fair whack of that goes to Royal mail for the privilege of whatever they did to justify it. For instance I bought a bag for Freja..it cost me £15...Customs got it and I had to pay another £10!! £8 of that to Royal Mail for god knows what! It really can be a huge added cost. If you don't pay you don't get whatever it is you bought. A reason I don't buy the boxed versions of the Combat Mission games. With this in mind I don't see why it has to be physical only..we have PDF readers etc etc why do we need a printed manual?

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Looks impressive. I have to confess being one ignorant who has never heard of "World in Flames" before... [X(]

Isn't it amazing? This game is not released yet, and we've already got the usual "Oh it's over-prized and I won't buy it" crap. [8|]
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Not talking about the price of the actual game..but the possibility of a big customs fee. £30 they wanted for Command Ops and a fair whack of that goes to Royal mail for the privilege of whatever they did to justify it. For instance I bought a bag for Freja..it cost me £15...Customs got it and I had to pay another £10!! £8 of that to Royal Mail for god knows what! It really can be a huge added cost. If you don't pay you don't get whatever it is you bought. A reason I don't buy the boxed versions of the Combat Mission games. With this in mind I don't see why it has to be physical only..we have PDF readers etc etc why do we need a printed manual?

ORIGINAL: Hotschi

Looks impressive. I have to confess being one ignorant who has never heard of "World in Flames" before... [X(]

Isn't it amazing? This game is not released yet, and we've already got the usual "Oh it's over-prized and I won't buy it" crap. [8|]
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Not looking for an argument wodin, but if Matrix insist on a physical only and you say that will add cost on top - then to me that is the "price" of the game.

As to why, I am not sure - I think its because this game is not your average computer game and players WILL have to read the manuals. But as I say I am not sure for certain but I am sure Iain can answer.
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I just read the interview over at wargamers and saw pictures of the manuals. They seem to be printed very eye-friendy (i.e. large fonts, good paper, good printing) which is very good news - usually, manuals shipped with boxed versions, are printed in too small fonts for me to be readable (that's why I stopped buying boxed and switched to digital only). Now imagine having to read all this as pdf... which isn't very user-friendly either... err, meaning, who takes the laptop into bed for reading, or to some other place were one is usually sitting around alone... [X(]

I also read the release will be without AI which means this will be a human vs.human play only thing... Something new to me as well...

But it is definitely something to ponder about getting...

wodin, customs applied to computer games? Don't know about British customs regulations, but over here in this little landlocked country, I never had to pay any custom duties for the few boxed games I purchased from matrixgames. I wonder why...

"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.
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Hotshi yes even applied to computer games..
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Okay. Looks like customs is understaffed here (and overpaid... [;)] )
"A big butcher's bill is not necessarily evidence of good tactics"

- Wavell's reply to Churchill, after the latter complained about faint-heartedness, as he discovered that British casualties in the evacuation from Somaliland had been only 260 men.
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Maybe this will be the time for Matrix/Slitherine to introduce "installment buying" options!

Hmm... this is a joke that might have some real value in it...

What do you think Ian?
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