What Do You Think Needs to be in World In Flames PC Game

World in Flames is the computer version of Australian Design Group classic board game. World In Flames is a highly detailed game covering the both Europe and Pacific Theaters of Operations during World War II. If you want grand strategy this game is for you.

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Then perhaps you'll recall like it was yesterday the threads where it was announced the game would be released first without the AI and it would be developed and added later.
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You know what would REALLY be cool that could only be done with a computer - a spherical global map. The Mercator projections used for current maps create huge distortion in high latitudes (like Norway and Finland, or southern Australia), and when overlaid with fixed hex sizes, has the effect of making units move much slower and cover far less ground with a ZOC in high latitudes than they would on a constant scale map. How about an optional spherical map, that appears flat when zoomed in for unit movement and combat, but retains constant ground scale per hex everywhere?

This talk of a spherical global map is outrageous...ludicrous...preposterous [:'(]

I suggested this years ago but Steve had enough to do and he had inherited a lot of map code from the previous developer. It's long story. I still love the idea and it would be and look cool, which is why I like making these models, but they are just graphical trickery and in no way represent what is actually required.

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During setup, it would be nice to have a button on the setup tray that allowed you to see where all your resources are (maybe a link to the production window), so that I have a better idea on where to place units defensively and more importantly, where to place my convoys. Another option here would be to include a recommended convoy placement for those major powers that have overseas resources added to the setup instructions for the various scenarios. Ideally I would like to see both added.

Right now I really have no clue on how many convoys I need to place where as the Commonwealth player or even as the Japanese other than what is already included in the setup instructions.
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During setup, it would be nice to have a button on the setup tray that allowed you to see where all your resources are (maybe a link to the production window), so that I have a better idea on where to place units defensively and more importantly, where to place my convoys. Another option here would be to include a recommended convoy placement for those major powers that have overseas resources added to the setup instructions for the various scenarios. Ideally I would like to see both added.

Right now I really have no clue on how many convoys I need to place where as the Commonwealth player or even as the Japanese other than what is already included in the setup instructions.
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Sabre21 I am struggling with this too so until someone more sensible following up in due course, here is a list of CW resources and factories.

So for example you need 2CP in every continuous seabox from Australia to the UK if you want to use those 2 resources (the third uses the Aussie factory) - one resource to one factory. If you picked up the Sth African (2) and Rhodesian (1) res along the way, that would mean 5 CP from every sea box from South Africa to the UK.

The -15 for the UK means that you need to get 15 resources to the UK to get it to its factories to its maximum production.

Hope that helps for now.

EDIT Sorry I will try inserting the table as a picture...

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The Wif Newsletter "Lines of Communication, Vol.3, Issue No. 1," had an excellent article called "Getting the Butter and Guns Home."

It discusses the "Med Route v. the Cape Route."

The Med route is much shorter, but risks exposure to the low range, but dangerous Italian Navy.

I prefer the cape route. I don't even bother with both Aussie resources at first. I try to get one, and I run it the convoy west towards S Africa. Some prefer to run the convoy east to Mexico, then rail to Canada. It only uses 1 CP in each Med Zone, and 1 in the Red Sea to keep Malta in supply and get the Cyprus resource home. The Indian resources go around Africa.

Be careful stretching your convoys to the limits. I've had turns where the Brits got only a few BPs thanks to a few good sub attacks that took out a link in the chain.
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ORIGINAL: Sabre21

During setup, it would be nice to have a button on the setup tray that allowed you to see where all your resources are (maybe a link to the production window), so that I have a better idea on where to place units defensively and more importantly, where to place my convoys. Another option here would be to include a recommended convoy placement for those major powers that have overseas resources added to the setup instructions for the various scenarios. Ideally I would like to see both added.

Right now I really have no clue on how many convoys I need to place where as the Commonwealth player or even as the Japanese other than what is already included in the setup instructions.
1 - There is a button on the setup tray for restoring Saved Setup. For most of the scenarios, for most of the major powers, that will place all your naval units on the map. You may want to rearrange where the named naval units are placed, but it will give you a reasonable starting placement for all your convoys (and HQs, and oil points). Read about saved setups for more information. Once you have your convoys where you want them (or after your first try), you can save your own setups for use in later games.

2 - There is a map in the appendices that shows where all the resources and factories are on the map by country. It also lists all the trade agreements in effect at the start of the war.

3 - The Global Map has a 'view' that lets you see all the resources and factories for a major power. It shows enemy control land masses and you can set the Convoy aspect to show where all your convoys are.
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During setup, it would be nice to have a button on the setup tray that allowed you to see where all your resources are (maybe a link to the production window), so that I have a better idea on where to place units defensively and more importantly, where to place my convoys. Another option here would be to include a recommended convoy placement for those major powers that have overseas resources added to the setup instructions for the various scenarios. Ideally I would like to see both added.

Right now I really have no clue on how many convoys I need to place where as the Commonwealth player or even as the Japanese other than what is already included in the setup instructions.
1 - There is a button on the setup tray for restoring Saved Setup. For most of the scenarios, for most of the major powers, that will place all your naval units on the map. You may want to rearrange where the named naval units are placed, but it will give you a reasonable starting placement for all your convoys (and HQs, and oil points). Read about saved setups for more information. Once you have your convoys where you want them (or after your first try), you can save your own setups for use in later games.

2 - There is a map in the appendices that shows where all the resources and factories are on the map by country. It also lists all the trade agreements in effect at the start of the war.

3 - The Global Map has a 'view' that lets you see all the resources and factories for a major power. It shows enemy control land masses and you can set the Convoy aspect to show where all your convoys are.

Steve

Is that going to work when playing another player? For instance the Japanese player selects a saved setup, will that over write anything any earlier player may have set up?

I can see there may be a need for an overall scenario setup when playing multiplayer to cut down on time then all the players have to do is some minor adjustments.
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During setup, it would be nice to have a button on the setup tray that allowed you to see where all your resources are (maybe a link to the production window), so that I have a better idea on where to place units defensively and more importantly, where to place my convoys. Another option here would be to include a recommended convoy placement for those major powers that have overseas resources added to the setup instructions for the various scenarios. Ideally I would like to see both added.

Right now I really have no clue on how many convoys I need to place where as the Commonwealth player or even as the Japanese other than what is already included in the setup instructions.
1 - There is a button on the setup tray for restoring Saved Setup. For most of the scenarios, for most of the major powers, that will place all your naval units on the map. You may want to rearrange where the named naval units are placed, but it will give you a reasonable starting placement for all your convoys (and HQs, and oil points). Read about saved setups for more information. Once you have your convoys where you want them (or after your first try), you can save your own setups for use in later games.

2 - There is a map in the appendices that shows where all the resources and factories are on the map by country. It also lists all the trade agreements in effect at the start of the war.

3 - The Global Map has a 'view' that lets you see all the resources and factories for a major power. It shows enemy control land masses and you can set the Convoy aspect to show where all your convoys are.

Steve

Is that going to work when playing another player? For instance the Japanese player selects a saved setup, will that over write anything any earlier player may have set up?

I can see there may be a need for an overall scenario setup when playing multiplayer to cut down on time then all the players have to do is some minor adjustments.
Saved setups are for individual major powers. Setting up one has no effect on the other major powers.
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I don't have read the full thread of 24 pages, so please forgive me if this idea has already been submitted.

In netplay, it would be cool to have the option to load the game, not to play solitaire (encore que...) but only to review the map and the units and devising future actions and planning strategies.

I remember the days where we played the boardgame version and this was a great help to see the map during period of inactivity (between play sessions) and a pleasure too.
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ORIGINAL: Eradanfaroth

I don't have read the full thread of 24 pages, so please forgive me if this idea has already been submitted.

In netplay, it would be cool to have the option to load the game, not to play solitaire (encore que...) but only to review the map and the units and devising future actions and planning strategies.

I remember the days where we played the boardgame version and this was a great help to see the map during period of inactivity (between play sessions) and a pleasure too.
Finally![:D]

I knew that someone would eventually ask for this feature. I've given it the name Review. The idea is simple, you can load a NetPlay saved game and look things over. The Axis will not be able to see the US Entry chits, and neither side would be able to 'do' anything.

When I can get around to coding it I don't know. But it shouldn't be difficult to do. There will probably be a question when you restore the NetPlay game: "Resume Play or Review?"
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Well waiting for a download only/electronical version of the game (like Matrix does for all their games), less expensive perhaps? I do not want to pay for the physical goodies, don't want them personally.

I can wait I am not in a rush, budget is restricted as of now.

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It would be nice to be able to manually create a specific convoy route from one sea zone to the next for resources and lock it in place without the system hijacking some of the convoys when multiple routes are set up. Maybe even assigning it a name or tag so it would be easy to identify which route is hauling which resource.
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Hi folks, I just quick-read through a couple of pages and not through all of the 24 in this forum. Therefore forgive me, if I double-mention something here.

There is one thing that would dramatically increase the gameplay and that I really miss in the current version of the game (1.03). It is a mode in which you can display all units in a single hex, when you point at it with your mouse. Would that be possible in any later update?

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There is both the "units in hex" form and the fly out which you can use for this. For ports there is a tool too...

Simple click two times on a empty land hex and you get the fly out.
Two clicks on a sea area gives you the naval form. Point it in a sea area and a port and you've got it...
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Is it possible to get movement path arrows and terrain cost indicators. Something like below. You can see the path the unit will take and the cost of each hex before movement. Just a handy tool. [:)]

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In the production summary form, it would be nice if the amount of oil needed for reorganization did not include convoys at sea. They should not be counted in the amount of oil one needs to reorganize since, as long as they stay at sea, they don't need to be reorganized and thus don't need any oil. Only when a convoy returns to port (and flips) or if it flipped in port (port strike) does a convoy need oil, and only such convoys' oil requirements should be counted.
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Newer board games got rough terrain as well. Good for hilly areas with or without forest. Maybee this can be in later maps.
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Got the game. Why isn't option 73 (Heavy weapons) going to be included? The statement in book 1 of players manual page 6 - part of post 1945 add-ons is incorrect. Heavy weapons units appear from 1938 and onwards. USSR 1939 set up can have these units. I like playing with heavy weapons in the game. Can this omission be rethought.
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Got the game. Why isn't option 73 (Heavy weapons) going to be included? The statement in book 1 of players manual page 6 - part of post 1945 add-ons is incorrect. Heavy weapons units appear from 1938 and onwards. USSR 1939 set up can have these units. I like playing with heavy weapons in the game. Can this omission be rethought.
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I might be wrong but I thought heavy weapons was in AIF, PATIF and POLIF? These are NOT part of MWIF.
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Yes most of the heavy weapons are units in AiF, PATiF & POLiF, but they are added to the force pools when their arrival year occurs. Basic rule is use PATiF HVYWEAPs where these have the same unit. I've attached a sample from PIONs WiF units spreadsheet. It's a bit small but I wanted to get as many units as possible in the image.

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