American Torpedoes

This new stand alone release based on the legendary War in the Pacific from 2 by 3 Games adds significant improvements and changes to enhance game play, improve realism, and increase historical accuracy. With dozens of new features, new art, and engine improvements, War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition brings you the most realistic and immersive WWII Pacific Theater wargame ever!

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RE: American Torpedoes

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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

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I set them to..... minus 60 days! No plus... If only. You could check by opening the preferences screen, I think [:'(].


This gives me an opportunity to say that I think a lot of HRs are the product of laziness, mostly on the part of the Japanese player. Like no strat bombing until '43, or only in certain areas. Don't want to get strat bombed? Do something to prevent it. The only rule I've considered is something about a max altitude (dogfights with prop engines at 35k feet? Heh.), but when you're playing with no other rules it feels silly to play with just one... Better to just work around the game engine entirely at that point.

I'm going for the record on maxed nested quotes. [:)]

See what fun settings can be? [:)] I hope you re-set them. But if you didn't, I assume you did. Infinite regression. Mirror-world!

Let me add here, for the record and for the peanut gallery, Lokasenna is pressing me all over the map. I may come to regret my cavalier attitude, especially on R&D. Auto-victory is certainly not off the table for him at all in mid-Feb. 1942. If he gets it we'll stop, I'll shake his virtual hand, and we'll see about another match. If he doesn't get it we'll play on and things will improve for me OOB-wise. So far there hasn't been one email whine from either of us and the game is booming along and is a lot of fun. FUN.

And no CPA-in-the-Pacific every turn as I consult my clipboard of HRs and examine each and every unit for a red card.

You mean February 1943? Because we're halfway through February 1942 already, and I don't think I can go from 1.1:1 VPs to 4:1 in just 2 weeks of game time. I'm not as optimistic about my February 1943 VP ratio, but a lot can happen in '42 I guess... We'll see! Even if I did reach supposed AV, I wouldn't see the war as over - just with a bigger cushion [;)]. Though I think I need to go look up VP values now, and see just where my total would be sitting if I can get to my perimeter goals...

I've seen more nested comments, but not on this board.

I mean on 1/1/43. Yes, there's time and you have a long way to go, but you have a very good start. You need to exploit what you've started. A lot of AV is building the bases, not necessarily taking more of them.
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True enough, but those the bases worth building up with my meager engineer stock are hard to hold, not to mention hard to get the engineers there soon enough! I think I would have had to take a different path from the beginning in order to get AV, but there's still time and a lot of combat yet to happen.
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RE: American Torpedoes

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True enough, but those the bases worth building up with my meager engineer stock are hard to hold, not to mention hard to get the engineers there soon enough! I think I would have had to take a different path from the beginning in order to get AV, but there's still time and a lot of combat yet to happen.

Don't discount the probability of your opponent screwing up. It's there in every world domination plan. [:)]
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ORIGINAL: Lokasenna

True enough, but those the bases worth building up with my meager engineer stock are hard to hold, not to mention hard to get the engineers there soon enough! I think I would have had to take a different path from the beginning in order to get AV, but there's still time and a lot of combat yet to happen.

Don't discount the probability of your opponent screwing up. It's there in every world domination plan. [:)]

That must be the difference between me and the Hitlers of the world, then. Because I don't know how you plan for that, or assume that you can force somebody into a specific mistake.
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AS OF 31 DEC 1941 (Scenario 2 with USN fleet boats torps working better than RL):

- 13 (x)AK(L)s
- 2 (x)APs
1 TK
2 PBs

and another IJN small craft vessel.

Better than I thought, really. These are all causes, but mostly SS attacks.
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RE: American Torpedoes

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No need for ahistorical allied torpedoes. Just play into 1944, and the allies have toys to burn.
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