Game freezes when setting up US in new game

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: Numdydar

I REALLY hope at some point the main form and the primary detailed map are intergrated somehow. I know it is stupid, but I hate not having the map take up the full screen [:@]

Or if they cannot be intergrated, allow the main form to be on a second monitor so the map can be fully displayed on another.

Your second choice is the way the code should work.

I fixed the bug with using 3 monitors today (that correction will be available in version 1.0.5.0 early next week).

Fixing the two monitor problem is on my list but it is not a top priority since there's a workaround.

[Ubercat]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

The only issue I've seen with multiple monitors is having them set-up and then disconnecting one of them without first going into Display Properties and telling Windows that monitor is gone. Likely that is also associated to the type of graphics card a person has.

But if you start using them here are two things you should do to avoid potential problems that can give you a sense the game has crashed (when it hasn't) because the form you need to interact with is off-screen.

The game was definitely frozen. Moving the mouse over a unit and clicking had absolutely no result. L/C or R/C made no difference. Forms couldn't be closed or moved. Nothing.

1. Your left hand monitor should have the 0,0 coordinate (i.e. it should be the "primary") - avoid negative number coordinates.

2. Keep the Main Form above the Detailed Map. People often try to totally max out the Detailed Map to a full monitor screen but in this case you are better to give up some space at the top, even if you have to resize the Detailed Map slightly so there's no overlap between it and the Main Form. I recommend no overlap because which one stays on top is usually the one you don't want to stay on top. [:)]

Is this the 2 monitor problem that Steve mentioned after your post, and the fix is to make sure that the secondary monitor is on the right, not the left of the main?

That's too bad but far from intolerable. I put the secondary monitor to the left because on the right it got in the way of my mousing. (right hander) I'll reactivate it and move it to the right and see if I have any trouble.

Thanks guys!

[paulderynck]

ORIGINAL: Ubercat

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

The only issue I've seen with multiple monitors is having them set-up and then disconnecting one of them without first going into Display Properties and telling Windows that monitor is gone. Likely that is also associated to the type of graphics card a person has.

But if you start using them here are two things you should do to avoid potential problems that can give you a sense the game has crashed (when it hasn't) because the form you need to interact with is off-screen.

The game was definitely frozen. Moving the mouse over a unit and clicking had absolutely no result. L/C or R/C made no difference. Forms couldn't be closed or moved. Nothing.

That does coincide with the symptoms you'd get from having a form off screen that is waiting for your input.

[paulderynck]

ORIGINAL: Ubercat

1. Your left hand monitor should have the 0,0 coordinate (i.e. it should be the "primary") - avoid negative number coordinates.

2. Keep the Main Form above the Detailed Map. People often try to totally max out the Detailed Map to a full monitor screen but in this case you are better to give up some space at the top, even if you have to resize the Detailed Map slightly so there's no overlap between it and the Main Form. I recommend no overlap because which one stays on top is usually the one you don't want to stay on top. [:)]

Is this the 2 monitor problem that Steve mentioned after your post, and the fix is to make sure that the secondary monitor is on the right, not the left of the main?

My understanding is that whether you have 2 or 3 monitors, if the Primary one is not on the left, you'll have negative coordinates on the left, and you want to avoid that. I ran into it when testing with a laptop and I wanted the detailed map on my left on a bigger screen and most of the forms on the laptop screen on my right. But it gets to be a PITA to have to switch the laptop back and forth from being the Primary, so I compromised and put the monitor on the right and made it the secondary. Then the Detailed Map goes on the right and thus the Main Form must also be on the right at the top of the screen.

As Steve gets time to fix these issues, I think the configurations will grow more flexible, but for now what I'm describing avoids frustrations.

Edited to add: The 3 monitor problem Steve spoke of is not the same issue as discussed here.

[Ubercat]

Considering that most monitors are far wider than they are tall, if we have to keep the main form on the main monitor it would be great to be able to have a more vertically inclined main form. An option to have the main form to the left or right of the map, rather than bottom or top would make for more efficient use of screen real estate. Most of us can spare much more space on the sides than the way it is now. I guess that a tech support thread may not be the best place to make a UI improvement suggestion.

Anyway Steve, I love this game and if I ever get the chance I'll buy your dinner or at least a couple of rounds.

[paulderynck]

I don't think this will be a permanent issue. Steve has this working far, far better then when I first beta tested multiple monitors a few years back.

I only mention the stuff that I'm aware may cause you grief. It seems almost all other forms needed when playing appear relative to the Main Form - which is why its placement is so important.

[Shannon V. OKeets]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

I don't think this will be a permanent issue. Steve has this working far, far better then when I first beta tested multiple monitors a few years back.

I only mention the stuff that I'm aware may cause you grief. It seems almost all other forms needed when playing appear relative to the Main Form - which is why its placement is so important.

Yes.

[76mm]

ORIGINAL: paulderynck
...seems almost all other forms needed when playing appear relative to the Main Form - which is why its placement is so important.

Steve, I tried putting the main form on the same monitor as the map, but with one possibly fatal deviation--I put the main form below the map rather than above...I guess that could cause problems? Also, does it matter if the main form is kept centered on the primary monitor, or should it be closer to the second monitor?

When you get around to working on a fix, while you've probably already thought about this, it might be helpful to have a command that will center the active form on the main form (or something). hmmm, but maybe that won't work either since many of the forms are modal and thus you might not be able to give the command?

[paulderynck]

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