Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, Docup(A)-Koniu(J)

[koniu]

Loses

[obvert]

Man, you've absolutely ruined the Allied fleet! [X(]

Looking good!

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: obvert

Man, you've absolutely ruined the Allied fleet! [X(]

Looking good!

Don`t blame me, in big part it is Docup fault[:D].
I little mis some of those DDs i lost, but i sold them for high price.

[PaxMondo]

BANZAI!!!

Great job so far ... even considering FOW, doing great!!!!

[koniu]

I just did stupid thing.
I was updating my AAR and because mine and Docup Threats where so close each other i accidentally post report on his threat and without reading it and post rapport about Burma in his AAR [8|].
I dont notice that until i refresh main AAR forum. I need to explain to Docup.

EDIT.
I suspecting that i enter his aar when i was checking his last posts, when i trying to enter his profile on forum. (in profile You see his last 10 post. I usual checking his post outside AAR to check for info he can slip by accident about our game.

Damn.

[koniu]

So Burma report. I hope this time in good AAR[8|]


3 DEC 1943
Docup is advancing it two main direction. Prome area and Taung Gyi area.


Prome area.
Between Rangoon and Prome i have 7 ID and 2 Tank Div. Two more ID in move to area.
I create defense line in jungle line behind river. I hope this will hold for some time. If not i will abandon Prome. Estimated enemy forces ~5000AV i have ~4000AV

Taung Gyi area.
Taung Gyi have 1500AV against 1600AV of allies. South of base i have 650AV against 1200AV(850 is Chinese) in fasr north i have 650AV agains ~1000AV of allies. I winn battle there last turn

Ground combat at 60,47 (near Mandalay)

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 25817 troops, 446 guns, 496 vehicles, Assault Value = 1016

Defending force 18401 troops, 234 guns, 156 vehicles, Assault Value = 636

Allied adjusted assault: 531

Japanese adjusted defense: 3403

Allied assault odds: 1 to 6

Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+)
Attacker:

Japanese ground losses:
615 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 47 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 16 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Guns lost 32 (1 destroyed, 31 disabled)
Vehicles lost 52 (7 destroyed, 45 disabled)

Allied ground losses:
2464 casualties reported
Squads: 68 destroyed, 204 disabled
Non Combat: 2 destroyed, 74 disabled
Engineers: 10 destroyed, 13 disabled
Guns lost 65 (2 destroyed, 63 disabled)
Vehicles lost 37 (1 destroyed, 36 disabled)

Assaulting units:
11th (East African)/B Division Divided ID. Probably different devices. B part was trashed to 0AV in that battle
25th Indian Division
14th Chindit Brigade
11th (East African)/A Division
3rd Cavalry Regiment
16th Light Cavalry Regiment
11th (East African)/C Division
95th Heavy AA Regiment

Defending units:
14th Tank Regiment
143rd Infantry Regiment
2nd Division
3rd Mortar Battalion
23rd Medium Field Artillery Regiment
35th Fld AA Gun Co

Central front.
Two ID plus some tanks i defending Tanguoo approach

[koniu]

Salomon's
Only Major base in are is Rabaul
Everything south of New Britain i abandon. I keep there only small garrisons to prevent free landings. I hope Docup instead of moving north will chose clearing those island from Japanese forces.
Any attempt to move north of New Britain will end wit proper and deadly response from Japanese forces.

I nwewr plann to fight heavy for Salomons. This area was only for delaying allied moves and give me time to proper preperations of defense in north and central Papua

[koniu]

Ki-84a Frank - disappointment?????

So far i found "a" frank as disappointment. Ok it is better from Tojo but when i compare it with N1K2 , much slower George behaving much better in attack and in defense.

In defense George much often managing to avoid enemy attack. While Frank is shot down.
In attack George guns when hit enemy they destroy it while Frank usually only damage enemy plane.

Two days ago i send 90 Georges and over 150 Franks to weep Ramrre island.
Georges shot down ~40 enemy planes losing only 3. While frank shot down ~20 enemy planes losing 30 in process. Pilots whee in both planes equal 70XP ones. Also Georges where flying firs waves engaging much stronger not tired CAP. I hope "r" version will be better. Sill month before "r" will be available.

George sweeps
Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 45

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 13
Hurricane IIc Trop x 25
Spitfire VIII x 16
A-36 Mustang x 20
P-39D Airacobra x 18
F4F-3 Wildcat x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed
Hurricane IIc Trop: 1 destroyed
A-36 Mustang: 4 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 3 destroyed

and

Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 30 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
N1K2-J George x 45

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 11
Hurricane IIc Trop x 14
Spitfire VIII x 15
A-36 Mustang x 5
P-39D Airacobra x 6
F4F-3 Wildcat x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
N1K2-J George: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIc Trop: 2 destroyed
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 2 destroyed

Frank Sweeps
Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 36,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 30

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 12
Hurricane IIc Trop x 21
Spitfire VIII x 16
A-36 Mustang x 9
P-39D Airacobra x 11
F4F-3 Wildcat x 17
F6F-3 Hellcat x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 1 destroyed

and

Morning Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48

Weather in hex: Overcast

Raid detected at 116 NM, estimated altitude 32,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 8 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 42

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 11
Hurricane IIc Trop x 17
Spitfire VIII x 16
A-36 Mustang x 7
P-39D Airacobra x 7
F4F-3 Wildcat x 16
F6F-3 Hellcat x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-36 Mustang: 1 destroyed

and

Afternoon Air attack on Ramree Island , at 54,48

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid detected at 25 NM, estimated altitude 33,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes

Japanese aircraft
Ki-84a Frank x 41

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 8
Hurricane IIc Trop x 7
Spitfire VIII x 16
A-36 Mustang x 4
P-39D Airacobra x 4
F4F-3 Wildcat x 7
F6F-3 Hellcat x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-84a Frank: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
A-36 Mustang: 2 destroyed
P-39D Airacobra: 1 destroyed
F6F-3 Hellcat: 3 destroyed

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: koniu

Ki-84a Frank - disappointment?????

So far i found "a" frank as disappointment. Ok it is better from Tojo but when i compare it with N1K2 , much slower George behaving much better in attack and in defense.

In defense George much often managing to avoid enemy attack. While Frank is shot down.
In attack George guns when hit enemy they destroy it while Frank usually only damage enemy plane.

George is a very good plane and those 4x20mm are a really strong armament that makes a difference to me in all of my games. However, it is IJN and you just don't have that many IJN fighter groups. The Frank is comparable flying, but lacks the firepower.

I am a bit surprised about the losses. I can only think of three things.
1. George has better range. Was the Frank flying at extended range and the Geroge normal?
2. The Franks (for whatever reason) started with higher fatigue (pilot and/or plane)
3. Just bad luck on the Frank rolls

The reason I like the Frank "b" model so much is the armament.4x20mm like George, BUT 2x20mm are CL. Really a hard hitting plane and the best armed plane in the IJ inventory IMHO.

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: koniu

Ki-84a Frank - disappointment?????

So far i found "a" frank as disappointment. Ok it is better from Tojo but when i compare it with N1K2 , much slower George behaving much better in attack and in defense.

In defense George much often managing to avoid enemy attack. While Frank is shot down.
In attack George guns when hit enemy they destroy it while Frank usually only damage enemy plane.

George is a very good plane and those 4x20mm are a really strong armament that makes a difference to me in all of my games. However, it is IJN and you just don't have that many IJN fighter groups. The Frank is comparable flying, but lacks the firepower.

I am a bit surprised about the losses. I can only think of three things.
1. George has better range. Was the Frank flying at extended range and the Geroge normal?
2. The Franks (for whatever reason) started with higher fatigue (pilot and/or plane)
3. Just bad luck on the Frank rolls

The reason I like the Frank "b" model so much is the armament.4x20mm like George, BUT 2x20mm are CL. Really a hard hitting plane and the best armed plane in the IJ inventory IMHO.

1. They where flying from Prome, Ranggon and Tanguoo so normal range to all groups.
2. All group where 99 morale with fatigue below 5. I even manually send some fatigued pilots back to pool and give two days of rest to those groups before attack.
3. It could be that or in that battle Spitfire VIII presence. When Georges arrive Spitfires where out of position for most time of game.

But I am talking here about overall performance i experienced during last 3 months. George is fighting better.

I hope Ki-84r will be better in both defense and attack. Arrival date for that version is 6 January 43.
Ki-84b is also researched but it will be build in limited number and not sooner that autumn `44. and with some luck there is chance that Ki-83 will be available by then

[PaxMondo]

Frank "a" and "r" are very similar. I rarely see much difference ... random rolls seem to be much bigger than the difference between them

Yes, George is a good plane, but unfortunately you can't get an IJA version. [;)]

Ki-83 is a good plane, just remember that it is 2E, not 1E. Roughly equivalent to the Frank "b" model in armament. I have found it to be good in both escort (with Peggy, not Helen) and sweep roles.

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Frank "a" and "r" are very similar. I rarely see much difference ... random rolls seem to be much bigger than the difference between them

Yes, George is a good plane, but unfortunately you can't get an IJA version. [;)]

Ki-83 is a good plane, just remember that it is 2E, not 1E. Roughly equivalent to the Frank "b" model in armament. I have found it to be good in both escort (with Peggy, not Helen) and sweep roles.

Do You mind Peggy(T) version. I will have it in February. In late Summer i will be able to use it first time in attack.

As son as Peggy arrive i will switch most of my 2E groups to them.
Ground attack are almost useless right now. I will only left few units as ASW platforms ant that will be all.

I now see how unexperienced player i was in beginning of game and now i stuck with over 800 ground trained pilots. Lucky many of them have enough low XP to be able to train fast in low naval or TT attack and be useed with Peggy or as kamikaze

[PaxMondo]

You will need the ground attack pilots at least once more, if not twice. You will use them when you need/can counter attack an amphib landing. If you haven't read PzB's AAR recently, go back and reread it. He was a master at countering amphib assaults. Preparatory for those is always a lot of ground bombing to create disablements. You might also take a look at Nemo's AAR's on Downfall/Armegeddon. He successfully re-took Okinawa, a critical location to keep control of.

Peggy+Ki-83 allow you to support Luzon from Formosa and Mindinao from Luzon. Helen range is just a bit too short and their cruise speed doesn't match up well with either Frank nor the Ki-83. BTW, you will like the extra couple of hex range the Frank "b" model has.

Peggy "T" model ... Me? I have lousy luck with 2E bombers on Naval strike against anything with CAP. They rarely fly, if they do, they abort often, if they attack, they never hit. Just me. So 2E bombers for me are ground attack only. Nell (G3M3: 21 hex range at night, I never build Frances because all of my IJN groups are Nell night bombers. I do send Nells on NIGHT Naval Attack ... sometimes they even hit something.

Grace/Jill is a whole different story. I have great luck with them ... they rarely abort. Anything within 10 hexes ... I love'm. [:D]

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Frank "a" and "r" are very similar. I rarely see much difference ... random rolls seem to be much bigger than the difference between them

Yes, George is a good plane, but unfortunately you can't get an IJA version. [;)]

Ki-83 is a good plane, just remember that it is 2E, not 1E. Roughly equivalent to the Frank "b" model in armament. I have found it to be good in both escort (with Peggy, not Helen) and sweep roles.

Interesting. I've found the Frank 'r' to be MUCH better than the 'a.' Just that little bit of extra speed helps a lot, and the better high altitude maneuver. I've used both with comparable pilots and found the 'r' doing much better agains the same competition.

The George has been good but seems to drop off in mid-44. The Frank 'r' has been the only plane until the Ki-83 that can handle Spit VIII and do some damage against P-47s and Corsairs. It's been much easier to asses after we changed to the 32k altitude limit. In 45 the George is an escort, as is the Frank 'a' while the Frank 'r' can still compete. The Jack J2M5 also still does well defensively, and the Sam is okay too. The only plane that can get close to even in an offensive mission is the Ki-83.

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: obvert

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

Frank "a" and "r" are very similar. I rarely see much difference ... random rolls seem to be much bigger than the difference between them

Yes, George is a good plane, but unfortunately you can't get an IJA version. [;)]

Ki-83 is a good plane, just remember that it is 2E, not 1E. Roughly equivalent to the Frank "b" model in armament. I have found it to be good in both escort (with Peggy, not Helen) and sweep roles.

Interesting. I've found the Frank 'r' to be MUCH better than the 'a.' Just that little bit of extra speed helps a lot, and the better high altitude maneuver. I've used both with comparable pilots and found the 'r' doing much better agains the same competition.

The George has been good but seems to drop off in mid-44. The Frank 'r' has been the only plane until the Ki-83 that can handle Spit VIII and do some damage against P-47s and Corsairs. It's been much easier to asses after we changed to the 32k altitude limit. In 45 the George is an escort, as is the Frank 'a' while the Frank 'r' can still compete. The Jack J2M5 also still does well defensively, and the Sam is okay too. The only plane that can get close to even in an offensive mission is the Ki-83.

As You all know we playing with second best maneuverability band rule.
So Frank "r" will be major step forward as it will be only plane that allow me to sweep above 31k before Ki-83

My plans for planes are
-From January `44 i will have in use mix of N1K2, Ki-84r and Ki-44IIc for his SR1
-June 44` i will replace some N1K2 with J2M5 to bust CAP capabilities
-From autumn `44 i will have some Ki-84b as bomber killer plane.
-Very late `44 or early `45 Ki-83 and A7M2 will start arriving.
-Spring/summer `45 arrival of J7W1
-No jet fighters.

All planes i mention will be in use until end of war. Pools are going to be shallow so any plane in air will be priceless.

[koniu]

4-5 Dec 1943

Burma
Quiet. Docup send bombers to reckon my troops north of Tanguoo.
On 5th i detected enemy TF (4 ships) 1 hex south of Rangoon. Probably DD TF. Docup like sinking by LBs in area. I have 50 bombers on naval none of them fly. I had BB TF close but he need refuel and rearm and will return in few days.

Lot of air ASW action in area. Docup have concentrate lot of subs around Rangoon. I think 10-15 maybe. I have 150 bombers flying ASW misions all with 50-60XP, 70+ skill pilots. Tracker is showing 5 subs sunk, probably many damaged. Multiple sinking sounds heard.


Coral Sea
Docup start seriously hunting my subs. From weeks one of mi I-boat was patrolling area between Papua and Oz. Last turn finally sub was intercepted and sunk by DDs.
It was real hunt. 5 or six ASW TFs, Naval search from OZ, plus support from one or Two CVE TFs. I must say well done job.

Salomon's
Mostly quiet. Docup unload some supplies in Madang. I fall to intercept him.

R&D
Ki-84r advance to 5/44

Art Work, Christmas
I will pimp my game with art work. We have short brak on game for Christmas


North Pacific.
One of my subs detect Santa Claus near Biak. I am sending entire KB to intercept it.
This year it will be no Christmas, all presents are mine.



Happy Christmas

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: koniu

One of my subs detect Santa Claus near Biak. I am sending entire KB to intercept it.
This year it will be no Christmas, all presents are mine.

GRINCH!!!!


[:D][:D][:D]

[koniu]

ORIGINAL: PaxMondo

ORIGINAL: koniu

One of my subs detect Santa Claus near Biak. I am sending entire KB to intercept it.
This year it will be no Christmas, all presents are mine.

GRINCH!!!!


[:D][:D][:D]

It does not go as good as planed. I use NORAD Santa Claus Tracker to intercept him but i forgot that after NORAD give permission to enter Allied air space Santa get air escort from US Air Force

Morning Air attack on Santa Claus, near Biak at 90,111 (direction south toward Oz)

Weather in hex: Clear Sky

Raid detected at 16 NM, estimated altitude 31,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 110 minutes (superior radar detection)

Japanese aircraft
A6M5 Zero x 312
A6M5b Zero x 78
A6M5c Zero x 21

Allied aircraft
Santa Claus x 1
F-35 Lightning II x 32
F-22 Raptor x 75


Japanese aircraft losses
A6M5 Zero: 298 destroyed
A6M5b Zero: 63 destroyed
A6M5c Zero: 14 destroyed


No Allied losses

[PaxMondo]

[:D][:D][:D]

[PaxMondo]

Good thing your attack failed or I would have been subjected to the cries of a 4yo screaming about not getting his Bumble Bee Transformer that Santa promised him IF he brushed his teeth every day. [;)]