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Impulse change

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I don't know if this is the right place to post this, but though i'd toss it here for now and if the admins need to move it they can.

I was curious if any thought was given to changing the impulse increment mechanics since the scale of the pacific map has changed?

The only reason that I ask is I'm assuming that the orginal intent of the impulse increment was that on the pacific map since the scale was smaller that while the turn would progress faster in the 'winter' months of the north since you covered just as much real estate that it was fine.

Now with the pacific map being the same is the rational having the turn going faster in Nov-Feb resonable or fair to the powers that are fighting in the southern hemisphere and have just as much distance etc to cover as the northern hemisphere?
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No. In WiF all movement was doubled on maps on the Pacific scale. In MWIF movement is normal. Therefore, no adjustments were necessary on that part of the game.
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ORIGINAL: Centuur

No. In WiF all movement was doubled on maps on the Pacific scale. In MWIF movement is normal. Therefore, no adjustments were necessary on that part of the game.

Hmm been a little while since I've played the board game.. I don't ever remember movement being changed on the Pacific map. I know there was something about zoc's but not movement.

Edit - Correct, So If you meant it cost twice as much to move a hex yes.. the units themselves didn't have double movment.

So my original question still stands.. while on the old maps you would fight and capture a hex with one combat, now it would take 2 times as many attacks to capture the same real estate.. but you don't have more impulses...
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I don't think you need more impulses to get what you want, since the sea area's are the same ones as in WiF and the unified map allows the units to move as on the European scale maps in WiF.
To attack twice to get at the same real estate? I don't think so. Places like Manilla, Truk, Rabaul, Batavia, Singapore are still only one hex (and not two).
The war isn't that different regarding the Pacific map and the NEI and Phillipines itself. Take the important ports and Islands and the Japanese perimeter is there. That isn't any different as in WiF. Sure, the map looks huge, but in reality, everything goes as smooth as on the WiF maps...

In China, the lack of enough units to make an in depth frontline for both sides is now there. In early war, it is impossible to get a solid front line by the Chinese (and the Japanese have even less units in China...). China is huge in MWIF... That's the major difference. It's no longer WW I in China. Instead, attacking a hex and succeeding means the removal of units that the defender needs to defend the area with. There are almost no reserves in China anymore on both sides. Everything is at the frontlines, which means that if losses are high for a side, the other side can make huge gaps and exploit them. However, China is big, so the problem which than occurs is overstretching yourself and thus giving the other side the possibility to put your units out of supply...
In the AAR's I've already seen the Japanese overstretching himself near Sian and being put OOS due to an attack going wrong. The otherway around can also happen in China.

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Stands the question why in the winter months, the sunny south should be handicapped by the speed the impulses go by because of the bad weather in the European theater.

I think the game will be even more complex if you would think of a system where impulses per weather region are skipped due to storm or snow.
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RE: Impulse change

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Very little happens, over all, south of the equator, in the historical war, or the game. A few areas for a few years of the war only, as compared to everything going on in the northern hemisphere.
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