Thread for DB3000 database problems, updates or issues

[Mgellis]

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Here's one I would like to see added sooner rather than later, just because it opens up a lot of possibilities for involving smaller nations in scenarios...

(I could have sworn I posted this one earlier, but I searched and could not find it.)

Point-class cutter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCG_Point_Class_Cutter
http://www.uscg.mil/history/cutters/doc ... B_1962.pdf
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ ... wpb-82.htm

(it's also in the CWDB, so I'm guessing all the data that is needed is there)

We built a gazillion of these (okay, okay, only 79, but that's almost a gazillion...) and then after using them for about 20 years we sold them to about a dozen countries, mostly in the Caribbean (including Costa Rica, Mexico, Jamaica, and El Salvador), but also places like Georgia and Turkmenistan (I want to know how they got an 82' boat to the Caspian Sea). So, one can see the possibilities here...

[Gunner98]

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Minor F4G Wild Weasel incongruity.

#645 - F-4G Phantom II [Wild Weasel V] -- USAF, 1990-1995

load-out names indicate using the AN/ALQ-131 DECM Pod while in the load-out detail they use the AN/ALQ-184. Took a quick look through the other weasels and they seem to have the proper accoutrements.

[Mgellis]

Here's another one we might see on the Caspian (and a lot of other places...about 40 of these were sold or transferred to various other countries)...

Yevgenya-class minesweeper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgenya-class_minesweeper
http://russian-ships.info/eng/warships/project_1258.htm

Less widely exported, but boats did go to Syria and Bulgaria...

Vanya-class minesweeper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanya-class_minesweeper
http://russian-ships.info/eng/warships/project_257.htm

[Russian Heel]

ORIGINAL: Mgellis

Here's another one we might see on the Caspian (and a lot of other places...about 40 of these were sold or transferred to various other countries)...
Less widely exported, but boats did go to Syria and Bulgaria...
Yevgenya-class minesweeper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgenya-class_minesweeper
http://russian-ships.info/eng/warships/project_1258.htm

Vanya-class minesweeper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanya-class_minesweeper
http://russian-ships.info/eng/warships/project_257.htm

I never noticed before but NATO gave a class name Yevgenya and Zhenya to two different classes and the naming convention for minesweepers was diminutives of given names with the exception of Yevgenya. I wonder why.

[Mgellis]

When there is time, please add the MQ-8C version of the Fire Scout, which can be armed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_G ... Fire_Scout
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_P ... pon_System
http://gizmodo.com/5901632/drone-helico ... ns-upgrade

[Mgellis]

I would love to see these added...

Fleet-class unmanned surface vessel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleet-clas ... ace_vessel
http://sgtreport.com/2012/11/navy-test- ... bot-boats/
http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2012 ... boats.html
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/11/03/ ... bot-boats/

Protector USV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector_USV
http://www.naval-technology.com/project ... e-vehicle/

[goodwoodrw]

I posted this request in the main body of the CMAO forum
Emsoy what's the chance of getting this Helo AW159added to soon. It is intended use is on the Queen Liz class CV. Commences service with Brit Army sometime this year and RN soon after.
I'm its not in the DB.
Thanks
Ron

[IWS]

ORIGINAL: Mgellis


When there is time, please add the MQ-8C version of the Fire Scout, which can be armed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_G ... Fire_Scout
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_P ... pon_System
http://gizmodo.com/5901632/drone-helico ... ns-upgrade

Yes. Longer loiter time and bigger payload than the B version.

The MQ-8B will be armed as well, with APKWS, as per the Wikipedia article.
The B is also getting a surface search radar, the Telephonics AN/ZPY-4 (RDR 1700 in the DB)

[Mgellis]

While we are on the subject of robot helicopters...

IAI Panther
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Panther
http://www.tgdaily.com/security-feature ... n-vtol-uav
http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft ... ft_id=1093
http://www.unmanned.co.uk/autonomous-un ... fications/

(I could easily see this being used in a "module" in an LCS...control station and crew are in one of the modules in the big reconfigurable hold and half-a-dozen of these little guys are extra eyes in the sky for an LCS sitting 20 or 30 miles offshore...when they find something worth killing, a Burke 50 or 60 miles away can launch Tomahawks. The MQ-8 already serves this role, but these things are so small, you could double the number of drones on the ship.)

[mikmykWS]

The USN and USMC will likely be using the RQ-21A in this role.

http://www.navaldrones.com/Integrator.html
http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm?fu ... 8E9F60798C
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Ins ... _Blackjack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBBOcoE2SV0

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Mgellis


I would love to see these added...

Fleet-class unmanned surface vessel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleet-clas ... ace_vessel
http://sgtreport.com/2012/11/navy-test- ... bot-boats/
http://warnewsupdates.blogspot.com/2012 ... boats.html
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/11/03/ ... bot-boats/

Protector USV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protector_USV
http://www.naval-technology.com/project ... e-vehicle/

Hi Mark

Protector is in the DB. Look for variants under Israel and Singapore.

Still working on the Fleet implementation. It really doesn't have a standard payload yet and for all purposes is a general purpose launch that you can add weapons and sensors to like we do the LCS. I'll probably start with something like that.

[Mgellis]

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

The USN and USMC will likely be using the RQ-21A in this role.

http://www.navaldrones.com/Integrator.html
http://www.navair.navy.mil/index.cfm?fu ... 8E9F60798C
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Ins ... _Blackjack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBBOcoE2SV0

Cool! (And I hope to see it added someday to the DB3000, too...again, I know it takes a while to add platforms, so I know a lot of these might not get in for a while.)

[Mgellis]

Hi Mark

Protector is in the DB. Look for variants under Israel and Singapore.

Sorry...I did check. I must have just missed it, somehow.

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: Gunner98

Minor F4G Wild Weasel incongruity.

#645 - F-4G Phantom II [Wild Weasel V] -- USAF, 1990-1995

load-out names indicate using the AN/ALQ-131 DECM Pod while in the load-out detail they use the AN/ALQ-184. Took a quick look through the other weasels and they seem to have the proper accoutrements.

Fixed, thanks! [8D]

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: Apocal

#1742 - DD 110 Takanami [Improved Marusame] should have the option for #927 - RIM-162B ESSM in its VLS in addition to RIM-7M Seasparrow and VL ASROC. At some point the class was upgraded with ESSM capability, but I can't find a hard date.

Removed the ESSM from the 2003 version of the ship as the missile was likely entering service without the missiles aboard. Then added a 2004 version with the missiles present. Also updated the 2006 version. Thanks!

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: schroedi

Germany 2014, Italy 2018 (both with Eurofighter), France 2018 (Rafale), Sweden 2015 (Gripen NG) will get the Meteor AA missle. Currently only UK is has Meteor in game.

The german ships of the Sachsen (F124) and Brandenburg (123) class can operate two medium sized helicopters and have place for them in their hangars.
The Bremen class (F122) can handle medium sized helicopters only on their pad (hanger is for two small one - so hangar is already correct).
Brandenburg(F123) class will get ESSM SAM in 2014, but I don't know if in quad or single packs.

Added/updated, thanks! [8D]

[RoryAndersonCDT]

Looks like the C-803K and the last two loadouts should have ready times of 10 hours; or something more than 45 minutes.

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf

RAAF - All dates are for RAAF operations.

F/A-18B Hornet - not in DB at all, could be added to several countries, 1985-current

Yeah have left out trainer versions pretty much througout the database. Probably need to add them if used in operations.

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
King Air 350 - Is not in DB at all, could be added to Civilian and Commercial, 2009-current

Added [8D]

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
Pilatus PC-9A - Is not in DB at all, could be added to several other countries, 1987-current

Will add when needed for a scenario [:)]

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
CT/4 Airtrainer - Is not in DB at all, 1973-current

Ditto.

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
Challenger CL-604 - Is not in DB at all, could be added to Commercial also, 2002-2014

Ditto also.

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
737 BBJ - Is not in DB but several other 737 variants are. Is actually a 737-700. Closest in DB is 737-700ER, 2002-2014

Added.

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
AN/TPS-77 - I note that the AN/TPS-70 is incorrectly listed under the Australian Air Force in the DB3K, it is actually the AN/TPS-77 which is operated by 3CRU and 114MCRU, 2005-current

Updated.

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
De Havilland DHC-4 Caribou - Is not in the DB at all, 1963-2009

C-130H - This is in the DB, just not for Australia, 1978-2012

C-130E - Also not in Australia in the DB, 1966-2000

C-130A - Also not in Australia in the DB, 1958-1978

Added -130E/H, C-130A is Paul's [8D]

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
C-17 - This is actually in the DB and in Australias category, too. I just wanted to note that IOC was reached in september 2007 rather than in 08.

Yeah late 2007 becomes 2008 in the database [8D]

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
Boeing 707 - VIP transport and tanker variants operated by 33SQN, 1981-2008

Added:

Boeing 707-338C [A20] -- Australia (Air Force), 1981-1991, 2x+2x, Converted to Tankers
Boeing 707-338C(KC) Tanker [A20] -- Australia (Air Force), 1991, 4x
Boeing 707-368C [A20] -- Australia (Air Force), 1988-2008, 2x, Transports

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
Id like to note that the Aussie Hornets in the DB currently require AIM-120-C5s in their loadouts. Id like to point out that we acquired AIM-120-C7s in 2011, and AIM-120Bs in 1998, but am aware of no sales of AMRAAMs in the intervening years. Id like to suggest a solution to loadouts which allows individual weapons to be set, on a per hardpoint and possibly per launcher basis, rather than a per loadout basis. Id like to cite the PACAF approved SCLs as one such reason, given the extreme number of different loadouts.

Thanks! Not much information out there, so when Canada bought AIM-120C-5 at the same time Australia did, I assumed Australia got the same version. Re-researched the issue and says AIM-120B, so running with that. Thanks!

Also created a new 2002 version of the Hornet carrying AIM-120B and AIM-9M.

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: Blu3wolf
Ive noted quite a few pennants missing in the Aussie DB too, so Ill list some of them here for you.

73 Collins - SSG 73 Collins [Collins Class]

75 Waller - SSG 75 Waller [Collins Class]

01 Adelaide [Perry] - FFG 01 Adelaide [Perry Class]

150 Anzac - FFH 150 Anzac [Anzac Class]

Id like to request the addition of O 266 Sirius, a replenishment ship.

I should also note that the Paluma Class vessels of the Royal Australian Navy are conspicuously absent, along with their Leeuwin Class cousins.


Singapore

PC-21


My appreciation is extended in anticipation of these eventual updates.

Updated pennants, thanks!

Added O 266 Sirius earlier, so should be ok.

Do you have more info on the Paluma/Leeuwin class?

Will add PC-21 Pilatus when needed for a scenario [:D]

[ComDev]

ORIGINAL: Baloogan
Looks like the C-803K and the last two loadouts should have ready times of 10 hours; or something more than 45 minutes.

Oops, fixed! Thanks [8D]