Double Standards

[warspite1]

Erik re Scottish Independence

No politics means no politics, thanks you, though I greatly appreciate the overall level of politeness and the interest in the subject. Thread locked.

Wdolson re OT: Ukrainian Crisis

I've been away most of the day and this thread has spun up. This thread has been drifting over the line a few times.

We do discuss current events here, but while I know it's tough to leave the politics out of this, can we try to do so? Political opinions can and do range all over the map and expressing them can generate a lot of ill will, especially in the US right now. This is probably why Matrix discourages modern political discussions.

I call that double standards.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Iain McNeil

Can you refer us to any threads that might need us to take action. We have hundreds of thousands of posts and nobody has seen them all unfortunately.

warspite1

Looks like there is no point. The moderator of that forum has decided that although OT: Ukrainian Crises is a political thread and has crossed over the lines a few times already, it is okay to continue with it (whereas Scottish Independence and Ukraina Crises - Kremlin Next Moves on this forum, were of course, not allowed).

I must confess I am really disappointed in the uneven and inconsistent way that Matrix has chosen to treat its forumites. This behaviour simply feeds the astounding arrogance of the likes of Bullwinkle and Alfred - the former who believes that those that use the General Discussion Forum are (and I quote) "a howling bunch of yokels" and latter who believes that we are retarded as we "have no ability to grasp more complex games"

Sadly I cannot find the rest of the latters quotes - but the rest of his diatribe against this forum was in much the same vein.

Ran back to your clubhouse I see. Stay. Please. The adults are talking in the AE forum.

warspite1

Oi Winkle - why don't you stop being such a twat?

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Bullwinkle58

ORIGINAL: warspite1


warspite1

Looks like there is no point. The moderator of that forum has decided that although OT: Ukrainian Crises is a political thread and has crossed over the lines a few times already, it is okay to continue with it (whereas Scottish Independence and Ukraina Crises - Kremlin Next Moves on this forum, were of course, not allowed).

I must confess I am really disappointed in the uneven and inconsistent way that Matrix has chosen to treat its forumites. This behaviour simply feeds the astounding arrogance of the likes of Bullwinkle and Alfred - the former who believes that those that use the General Discussion Forum are (and I quote) "a howling bunch of yokels" and latter who believes that we are retarded as we "have no ability to grasp more complex games"

Sadly I cannot find the rest of the latters quotes - but the rest of his diatribe against this forum was in much the same vein.

Ran back to your clubhouse I see. Stay. Please. The adults are talking in the AE forum.

warspite1

Oi Winkle - why don't you stop being such a twat?

warspite1

Edit: I will take that comment re the slavery issue back as I know that, even you, did not mean to make it sound like you did. I don't owe you that favour - but you can have that one on me. Good job for you I'm a grown up.

P.S The Twat comment remains.

[Orm]

It is obvious that the general forum has a stricter policy than the subforums.

Some from those subforums just appear on the general forum when they feel that their sect has been insulted. Maybe sect was the wrong word but some of the insults I've read towards the finest gentleman I know has got me somewhat upset. [:(]

[Erik Rutins]

Hi guys,

It's not a double-standard, we just don't have time to read all the threads in all the sub-forums on a regular basis. Calling our attention to problem threads is the best way to make sure a moderator sees them.

Regards,

- Erik

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Hi guys,

It's not a double-standard, we just don't have time to read all the threads in all the sub-forums on a regular basis. Calling our attention to problem threads is the best way to make sure a moderator sees them.

Regards,

- Erik

warspite1

Erik I did - I PM'd you last night. Now fair enough you did not see the message (I'm sure you have better things to do), but the thread was allowed to continue once it had been noticed this morning.

[Erik Rutins]

Hi Warspite,

I'm not sure where you message went, but I still haven't seen it. Just went and looked at the thread now as as result of noticing this forum thread.

Regards,

- Erik

[warspite1]

Erik that is strange, I sent it in the usual way i.e. clicking on your name and then clicking e-mail so the little box comes up.

Anyway - thanks for looking at this.

[Orm]

Why, if I may ask, was that thread moved to the general forum after it was locked?

[Erik Rutins]

The individual game forums are for discussion regarding those games. The Russian invasion of the Ukraine has nothing to do with War in the Pacific, so it was off-topic. Threads that are not specific to one of our games should be in the General Discussion forum and political threads should be locked, so hence step 1 to move it here and step 2 to lock it.

Regards,

- Erik

[Orm]

Thank you for the explanation. [:)]

[Chickenboy]

warspite1,

Do yourself a favor-lower your blood pressure by 'green buttoning' those forumites that are perennial problems. It's helped me enjoy my forum time that much more when I am here.

Cheers.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

warspite1,

Do yourself a favor-lower your blood pressure by 'green buttoning' those forumites that are perennial problems. It's helped me enjoy my forum time that much more when I am here.

Cheers.

warspite1

CB I don't use the Green Button - never have. It's a personal choice of course, but to me it does not seem right. You cannot just airbrush people out in real life so seems wrong in a virtual environment.

I have been on this forum for about six years. I've had run-ins with a few people - but that's part of life (we can't get on with everyone) and these have been mostly worked through over time, no harm done. Healthy debate is sometimes a good thing!

But sadly, sometimes in life though you come across someone who you are never going to jive with. It happens, its unfortunate but...... So thanks for the well meaning advice, but I will continue on without the green button - and just watch my BP [:)].

[LoBaron]

ORIGINAL: vonRocko

Mom...Dad...Bullwinkle and Alfred are talking politics!!! Help..make them stop!!

[:D]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

ORIGINAL: vonRocko

Mom...Dad...Bullwinkle and Alfred are talking politics!!! Help..make them stop!!

[:D]

warspite1

Hee hee [:)] Thought this would attract a lot of Winkle's mates! What's it like being seen on the General Discussion forum where all the thickies hang out? Better wash yourself down and scuttle back to your more usual - and superior - surroundings [:D]

[LoBaron]

Ah, I am not biased. Nice place actually. Some even have a good sense of humor, like vonRocko. [;)]

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: warspite1
You cannot just airbrush people out in real life so seems wrong in a virtual environment.

I respectfully disagree. Not everyone has a right to take up my time with their political message, religious proselytizing (or atheistic propaganda), poor choice of language / grammar and various annoyances. I can-literally-turn them off of the tele, close the door on them, hang up the phone or put their email in the 'spam' folders. I can 'unfriend' them on Facebook or other social media. I can keep a lot of people out of my life that annoy, heckle or irritate me.

This forum is no different. There are some well-meaning blokes that get a bit carried away every so often. I generally let them slide a few times. Perennial irritants, posturing toadies, vulgarians and malodorous perverts get the button. So do people that are NEVER WRONG. About anything. In the history of EVER. You've run into some of those types on this forum, I'm sure.

To each their own, but I again suggest the use of this modern convenience. You'll get used to it in time, I'm certain.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

Ah, I am not biased. Nice place actually. Some even have a good sense of humor, like vonRocko. [;)]

warspite1

[;)]

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1
You cannot just airbrush people out in real life so seems wrong in a virtual environment.

I respectfully disagree. Not everyone has a right to take up my time with their political message, religious proselytizing (or atheistic propaganda), poor choice of language / grammar and various annoyances. I can-literally-turn them off of the tele, close the door on them, hang up the phone or put their email in the 'spam' folders. I can 'unfriend' them on Facebook or other social media. I can keep a lot of people out of my life that annoy, heckle or irritate me.

This forum is no different. There are some well-meaning blokes that get a bit carried away every so often. I generally let them slide a few times. Perennial irritants, posturing toadies, vulgarians and malodorous perverts get the button. So do people that are NEVER WRONG. About anything. In the history of EVER. You've run into some of those types on this forum, I'm sure.

To each their own, but I again suggest the use of this modern convenience. You'll get used to it in time, I'm certain.

warspite1

May I be the first to congratulate you on the use of the term malodorous perverts!

Now, how do I get that into a conversation with a client tomorrow?

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy

ORIGINAL: warspite1
You cannot just airbrush people out in real life so seems wrong in a virtual environment.

I respectfully disagree. Not everyone has a right to take up my time with their political message, religious proselytizing (or atheistic propaganda), poor choice of language / grammar and various annoyances. I can-literally-turn them off of the tele, close the door on them, hang up the phone or put their email in the 'spam' folders. I can 'unfriend' them on Facebook or other social media. I can keep a lot of people out of my life that annoy, heckle or irritate me.

This forum is no different. There are some well-meaning blokes that get a bit carried away every so often. I generally let them slide a few times. Perennial irritants, posturing toadies, vulgarians and malodorous perverts get the button. So do people that are NEVER WRONG. About anything. In the history of EVER. You've run into some of those types on this forum, I'm sure.

To each their own, but I again suggest the use of this modern convenience. You'll get used to it in time, I'm certain.

warspite1

May I be the first to congratulate you on the use of the term malodorous perverts!

Now, how do I get that into a conversation with a client tomorrow?

Thanks for the compliment. This bit etched that special phrase into my brain many, many moons ago:

A man walks into an office.

Man: Good morning, I'd like to have an argument, please.

Receptionist: Certainly, sir. Have you been here before?

Man: No, this is my first time.

Receptionist: I see, well we'll see who's free at the moment.

Mr. Bakely's free, but he's a little bit concilliatory. No. Try Mr. Barnhart, room 12.

Man: Thank you.

He enters room 12.

Angry man: WHADDAYOU WANT?

Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that...

Angry man: DON'T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!

Man: What?

A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE!

YOU VACUOUS STUFFY-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!

M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!

A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!

M: Oh! Oh I see!

A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.

M: Oh...Sorry...

A: Not at all!

A: (under his breath) stupid git.

The man goes into room 12A. Another man is sitting behind a desk.

Man: Is this the right room for an argument?

Other Man:(pause) I've told you once.

Man: No you haven't!

Other Man: Yes I have.

M: When?

O: Just now.

M: No you didn't!

O: Yes I did!

M: You didn't!

O: I did!

M: You didn't!

O: I'm telling you, I did!

M: You didn't!

O: (breaking into the developing argument) Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?

M: Ah! (taking out his wallet and paying) Just the five minutes.

O: Just the five minutes. Thank you.

Anyway, I did.

M: You most certainly did not!

O: Now let's get one thing perfectly clear: I most definitely told you!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did! (very fast)

M: Oh no you didn't!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: No you DIDN'T!

O: Oh yes I did!

M: Oh look, this isn't an argument!

(pause)

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

(pause)

M: It's just contradiction!

O: No it isn't!

M: It IS!

O: It is NOT!

M: You just contradicted me!

O: No I didn't!

M: You DID!

O: No no no!

M: You did just then!

O: Nonsense!

M: (exasperated) Oh, this is futile!!

(pause)

O: No it isn't!

M: Yes it is!

(pause)

I came here for a good argument!

O: AH, no you didn't, you came here for an *argument*!

M: An argument isn't just contradiction.

O: Well! it CAN be!

M: No it can't!

An argument is a connected series of statement intended to establish a proposition.

O: No it isn't!

M: Yes it is! 'tisn't just contradiction.

O: Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position!

M: Yes but it isn't just saying "no it isn't".

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it isn't!

O: Yes it is!

M: No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process.

Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

O: It is NOT!

M: It is!

O: Not at all!

M: It is!

>DING!< The Arguer hits a bell on his desk and stops.

O: Thank you, that's it.

M: (stunned) What?

O: That's it. Good morning.

M: But I was just getting interested!

O: I'm sorry, the five minutes is up.

M: That was never five minutes!!

O: I'm afraid it was.

M: (leading on) No it wasn't.....

(pause)

O: (dirty look) I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.

M: WHAT??

O: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.

M: But that was never five minutes just now!

(pause... the Other Man raises his eyebrows)

Oh Come on!

Oh this is...

This is ridiculous!

O: I told you...

I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you PAY!

M: Oh all right. (takes out his wallet and pays again.)

There you are.

O: Thank you.

M: (clears throat) Well...

O: Well WHAT?

M: That was never five minutes just now.

O: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!

M: Well I just paid!

O: No you didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: I DID!!!

O: YOU didn't!

M: (unable to talk straight he's so mad) I don't want to argue about it!

O: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay!

M: Ah HAH!! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing???

Ah HAAAAAAHHH! Gotcha!

O: (pause) No you haven't!

M: Yes I have!

If you're arguing, I must have paid.

O: Not necessarily.

I *could* be arguing in my spare time.