TOAW III 3.4 no response issue

[Curtis Lemay]

ORIGINAL: burroughs

...since I really does not have the slightest idea what does tat mean that " ... the Windows "not responding" message doesn't necessarily indicate a problem. ..." And the stop signs does not necessarily mean that you have to stop or what?

If you dial a phone number and get a busy signal do you assume that the phone system is malfunctioning? Because that is really what the message means. It means that the program is busy doing something and can't respond to your interrupt request. And two examples of this for TOAW are the interturn calculations and combat execution. If you try to get TOAW to respond while those actions are going on, you will get that message. For the benefit of anyone reading this thread, if not burroughs, I hope that is understood.

I thought that I described the issue in quite a detailed manner.

You didn't. I can't reproduce the problem and I don't know just what you did that might have caused it, or what your computer may have been doing when it happened.

It would also be good to assume that I may have the slightest idea what I am aiming at and checked such basic stuff as the machine load, processes in the background and so on - and that is why I did not described that in length. I just assume somebody else is not stupid - but may be. Wise men see the wise around, fools can see only other fools.

Yet you make statements like the one at the top that seem to indicate that you're clueless. Computers are very complicated machines. It's easy to misunderstand or overlook something.

And Lobster, my friend, if you were as good at reading as I am , you would perhaps have noticed that Telumar wrote about at least one more guy who is also experiencing that so with up to apparently seven people participating in this discussion over 50 % is affected by the issue recurrence. Am I also blame some vague misconception for that, Mr. Lemay?

My comments apply to Stefan as well. We don't know if what he is experiencing is due entirely to Win7. We do know that Win7 has exactly these sorts of issues with many programs other than TOAW. For that reason, it is not surprising that more than one user may be reporting a similar issue - it may still have nothing to do with TOAW.

[Lobster]

If you don't believe Mr. Lemay when he says this may be a Windows problem look here:

http://support.microsoft.com/search/def ... CID%3D1033

You may even find a solution if you look long enough.

[Sensei.Tokugawa]

Dear Mr. Lemay, - can You start the game, using its dedicated .exe file from the main game directory - note that I am trying to describe the procedure in a detailed manner so as not to omit anything - and do that after either your desktop PC or laptop has been turned on, then start any scenario by clicking that in the game scenario menu, then open either the scenario briefing or replacements available or reinforcements - either expected or available - and start scrolling that - just scroll up or down, ok? - I don't think it can be done with any combat resolution going on at the same time - that's when I get the issue. and let me repeat - I don't experience any other software on my machines giving me similar issue - just TOAW III - and yes, it's a problem for me, but I don't blame TOAW III solely - all I was asking is a guidance and some help not patronizing, thanks in advance - but the way you have put that I am assuming that the fact we are all discussing here is also not due to TOAW III. That's funny since I thought it's a dedicated forum space and we have not dropped in here by mere coincidence bar Mr. Lemay - me just being clueless.

Have I ever refused to provide any additional data that may be of any essence here, but have escaped me either because I am clueless or don't realize computers are complicated machines?

[Lobster]

First, I don't work for nor with Matrix. But a little logic should tell you the following.

If the issues with the game freezing due to a 'program not responding' issue happens only with
This:

ORIGINAL: burroughs
currently the most serious one after 3XBb

the issue will not be resolved by Matrix. This is not a Matrix product and Matrix does not support it.

If the issues with the game freezes due to a 'program not responding' issue happens with an official Matrix build then I seriously doubt anything will be done. Because, according to last report, 3.5 is near completion. It's not logical to put effort into 3.4 when 3.5 may take care of the issue.

If the problem persists after 3.5 is completed then it helps the bug hunter to know exactly what your system is. Maybe even a DX dump. But as I said, I seriously doubt any effort will go into fixing a bug in 3.4 when the same bug may show up in 3.5 to be fixed.

[Sensei.Tokugawa]

Thanks Lobster, but again - I do and did realize what you're saying about 3XBb, it's quite obvious - but it had existed before. The "no response" issue. I am following the patch discussion, but so far it's just a prospect so I am working with what we have.

[Curtis Lemay]

ORIGINAL: burroughs

...and start scrolling that - just scroll up or down, ok? - I don't think it can be done with any combat resolution going on at the same time - that's when I get the issue.

How are you scrolling? Are you using the mouse wheel? Are you using the up and down buttons? Are you right-clicking (by page) or left-clicking (by line)? Are you holding the by-page button down continuously?

..and let me repeat - I don't experience any other software on my machines giving me similar issue - just TOAW III

Be patient. You probably will eventually. Plenty of others have. It's a fixture of Win 7.

Have I ever refused to provide any additional data that may be of any essence here, ...

I'll ask again: Is your hard drive light on solid while the problem is occurring? When the problem occurs, how long have you waited for it to resolve itself?

[Sensei.Tokugawa]

With my right hand - or left? Blinking or not? Specify please.

[letarsier059]

I experiences the very same problem than Burroughs, and tried the solution proposed by JBSpook : compatibility mode set on XPsp2 and it worked!



I'll ask again: Is your hard drive light on solid while the problem is occurring? When the problem occurs, how long have you waited for it to resolve itself?

My game is located on an internal hd dedicated to my games exclusively. And toaowIII is the only one displaying this kind of problem.

It occured during long movements (trains or sea convoys) or battles, and the game was frozen during 5-15 secs, depends ... Oh, and the battle log was not displayed, too.

How are you scrolling? Are you using the mouse wheel? Are you using the up and down buttons?

Only the mouse


Hope my 2 cents helped a bit ...

[SMK-at-work]

I get a "freeze" during long movements by sea and rail of multiple units - I just wait & they have always managed to find the right destination. Win 7 comes up with a message "TOAW is not responding", but I've never had it ACTUALLY freeze permanently on me yet.