Having been interupted by my wife to go run errands, I finaly was able to get the answer.
option 19 In the presence of the enemy. The CW SCS units in the sea zones moved add one movement point per sea area, which was enough to put me in the zero box.
So the raiders do not sail.
This is another instance where it took me several reloads to figure it out. Again, having to look through three different books to figure out a naval move problem, was a bit frustrating.
An advanced beginners AAR, and what i've learned so far and hope to learn
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Japan moved transports back to Japan and a pair of CA to Sasabo for transport duty. Once again, I forget to load the units from sea to deliver next impulse. Its been a long day.
The only land moves were by the Germans moving west.
The impulse ends.
Allied impulse, a roll of 2 means fine weather everywhere. The Chicoms hope the turn ands after this impulse.
The only land moves were by the Germans moving west.
The impulse ends.
Allied impulse, a roll of 2 means fine weather everywhere. The Chicoms hope the turn ands after this impulse.
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China pass
USSR,US,CW combined
France land
USSR,US,CW combined
France land
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The CW sends the BEF unit at sea to Plymouth since they can not land in France this turn due to HQ limits maxed out. US sends the third convoy to the caribbean.
It is the strategic bombing phase. I missed sending a fighter to the North sea to try to take out the German NAV unit. It was probably a ggod thing I missed it because Germany now has fighter to spare for interception. Am too tired to continue and miss something else. Will probably wake up at 2am, and wont be able to sleep then and will have to play more. This game is addicting.
It is the strategic bombing phase. I missed sending a fighter to the North sea to try to take out the German NAV unit. It was probably a ggod thing I missed it because Germany now has fighter to spare for interception. Am too tired to continue and miss something else. Will probably wake up at 2am, and wont be able to sleep then and will have to play more. This game is addicting.
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I was close, It was 1 a.m. I woke up.
By being tired, I left some cities unprotected, and the French and CW cost the Germans 2 production points lost to strategic bombing. The fighters that flew back from Poland could have made the difference. Instead, they were moved to their staging areas for the upcoming attacks in the west.
By being tired, I left some cities unprotected, and the French and CW cost the Germans 2 production points lost to strategic bombing. The fighters that flew back from Poland could have made the difference. Instead, they were moved to their staging areas for the upcoming attacks in the west.
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The CW rails the Manchester militia to Portsmouth to protect the port.
Land movement phase. The Chicoms could make moves to reinforce the hexes threatened by the Japanese, but would do so by giving up valuable ground to them. It is time to stand fast and take whatever is going to come.
The lonely USSR AT unit continues its march to the rear reserve area.
The French continue to move to defend.
Land movement phase. The Chicoms could make moves to reinforce the hexes threatened by the Japanese, but would do so by giving up valuable ground to them. It is time to stand fast and take whatever is going to come.
The lonely USSR AT unit continues its march to the rear reserve area.
The French continue to move to defend.
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With good weather for movement, Germany declares war on Denmark.
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Germany and Japan land
Italy combined
Impulse 12.
Italy combined
Impulse 12.
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The Italians bring the transport in Tobruk back to La Spezia.
The Japanese decided not to strategic bomb, since they will start looking where and how many of its bombers will be used in the attack on the Chicoms momentarily.
The Japanese decided not to strategic bomb, since they will start looking where and how many of its bombers will be used in the attack on the Chicoms momentarily.
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In order to maximize the number of ground strikes that I can commit, I needed to first see what I could use to attack where. I initially had two possible attacks that had different risks involved. One would have more ground strikes, and had only one div to use as losses, the had less ground strikes but two div for losses.
Realizing that moving additional units, I was able to come up with a third option, that not only increased the odds, gave me more air strikes than the first two, and gave me two div for losses.
This is of course if I have my numbers right.
Its time to commit.
Realizing that moving additional units, I was able to come up with a third option, that not only increased the odds, gave me more air strikes than the first two, and gave me two div for losses.
This is of course if I have my numbers right.
Its time to commit.
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That did not work out to well.
Also, I thought I could get 3 air strikes plus the ART. Must pay attention to the number of air actions in a land action choice.
Looking at those choices, a combined would give me the air, but not the land moves needed to make the attack that I want to do.
Perhaps it will be time to consider my attacks before choosing the action for the future in China?
Also, I thought I could get 3 air strikes plus the ART. Must pay attention to the number of air actions in a land action choice.
Looking at those choices, a combined would give me the air, but not the land moves needed to make the attack that I want to do.
Perhaps it will be time to consider my attacks before choosing the action for the future in China?
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With the Danish fleet on the run, the lone German NAV was able to intercept.
Since I went to bed way too early and woke up when I normally would be going to bed, I am going to deal with htis in the morning. There is also the First attack in the Sian campaign to next, so I will need to really pay attention to what I'm doing. No rash decisions if possible.
Since I went to bed way too early and woke up when I normally would be going to bed, I am going to deal with htis in the morning. There is also the First attack in the Sian campaign to next, so I will need to really pay attention to what I'm doing. No rash decisions if possible.
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After waking up and feesing the cats, it was time to get back to the game for a while.
In short, things did not go as I had expected them to. Not in the results, which I never got to finding out, but the units involved. This was due to my naval understanding issues. After a few reloads, I was just as confused as I was before. It was time to hit the books again.
It took a few more reloads in order to get an interception with the NAV unit, but here is the situation that the original play was before the confusion set in. The Danish ships are probably not the same, due to overun differences, but this is a minor issue. Right now, the main thing is to see if my understanding of what units are involved in the fight is correct.
The menu is saying that I cannot save the game at this point, which would be a help.
My original thinking was, because the NAV had intercepted the Danes, that any air units that were placed by both sides would also be included in air to air combat before the AA fire phase. This is where I was wrong.
Both sides have to make the search roll. Before I found that out, in one of the reloads, the Spifire was included with the two carrier units in air to air, and another reload, only the carrier air was involved, which confused me even more. The German 109 never made an appearance at all. This is when it was time to hit the books again.
If I am right, there are not enough modifiers for the 109 to make it into the fight, even with rolling 2 on the die roll. Now that I think I understand how this works, its time to start rolling the dice again. Unless there is something else that REALLY confuses the heck out of me, the game will move on. I will post the results.
Here is the situation before I begin.
In short, things did not go as I had expected them to. Not in the results, which I never got to finding out, but the units involved. This was due to my naval understanding issues. After a few reloads, I was just as confused as I was before. It was time to hit the books again.
It took a few more reloads in order to get an interception with the NAV unit, but here is the situation that the original play was before the confusion set in. The Danish ships are probably not the same, due to overun differences, but this is a minor issue. Right now, the main thing is to see if my understanding of what units are involved in the fight is correct.
The menu is saying that I cannot save the game at this point, which would be a help.
My original thinking was, because the NAV had intercepted the Danes, that any air units that were placed by both sides would also be included in air to air combat before the AA fire phase. This is where I was wrong.
Both sides have to make the search roll. Before I found that out, in one of the reloads, the Spifire was included with the two carrier units in air to air, and another reload, only the carrier air was involved, which confused me even more. The German 109 never made an appearance at all. This is when it was time to hit the books again.
If I am right, there are not enough modifiers for the 109 to make it into the fight, even with rolling 2 on the die roll. Now that I think I understand how this works, its time to start rolling the dice again. Unless there is something else that REALLY confuses the heck out of me, the game will move on. I will post the results.
Here is the situation before I begin.
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As I understand it (we have seen how wrong I can be in the past).
The Axis rolls a 2 which includes the NAV, but not the 109 because it is in the 0 box which is less than 2.
The Allied rolls a 1. With the modifiers to the searh box numbers and search roll, all of the CW units are included.
The Danes are automatically involved because they are being intercepted to begin with. Imight have this pint wrong. If you the reader know, please point this out.
The Axis rolls a 2 which includes the NAV, but not the 109 because it is in the 0 box which is less than 2.
The Allied rolls a 1. With the modifiers to the searh box numbers and search roll, all of the CW units are included.
The Danes are automatically involved because they are being intercepted to begin with. Imight have this pint wrong. If you the reader know, please point this out.
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Ok, everything went as I thought it would. Now I am happy enough to continue on.
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You are right in your last post. Will be a one-sided air batlle, I'm afraid. You'll be lucky if that Nav survives.
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ORIGINAL: Banjo
Having been interupted by my wife to go run errands, I finaly was able to get the answer.
option 19 In the presence of the enemy. The CW SCS units in the sea zones moved add one movement point per sea area, which was enough to put me in the zero box.
So the raiders do not sail.
This is another instance where it took me several reloads to figure it out. Again, having to look through three different books to figure out a naval move problem, was a bit frustrating.
After reading volume 1 for the strategic discussions, it is best to focus on RAC for rules to look up. Forms are usually quickly understand, other than production, for which there is now a good tutorial video.
The naval system is intricate and potential earlier wargaming experience does not help in this area.
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The results are in and the NAV was aborted.
All that fuss just to resolve an interception. By taking the time to understand how this works in a relativly unimportant attack such as this, it will help me not make huge mistakes from not understanding something but doing it anyway because it seems like the right thing to do. Carriers and Battleships are expensive.
All that fuss just to resolve an interception. By taking the time to understand how this works in a relativly unimportant attack such as this, it will help me not make huge mistakes from not understanding something but doing it anyway because it seems like the right thing to do. Carriers and Battleships are expensive.
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Whats left of the Danish ships make it into liverpool. They are welcome assets.
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Hi Axel,
I'm getting more familiar with the manuals. I think they are great, but I can see how they might have been laid out a bit different. I think that the more I begin to become an intermediate level player of the game, I will understand why it was done the way it was.
With the production thing, for some reason I caught on to it pretty quick just playing around with it, bugs and all. Just lucky with that part I guess.
The naval intricacies are taking me a bit of work, but once learned, the system I think is pretty good. I still have yet to be tested when the naval war heats up. Thats why I'm taking time with it now.
Another thing that has hindered me in my past games, was to hurry up and get to the big battle that was impending. The one in this game at Sian would be a good example. I am forcing myself to not get caught up in clicking the buttons just to get to "the good stuff".
I'm getting more familiar with the manuals. I think they are great, but I can see how they might have been laid out a bit different. I think that the more I begin to become an intermediate level player of the game, I will understand why it was done the way it was.
With the production thing, for some reason I caught on to it pretty quick just playing around with it, bugs and all. Just lucky with that part I guess.
The naval intricacies are taking me a bit of work, but once learned, the system I think is pretty good. I still have yet to be tested when the naval war heats up. Thats why I'm taking time with it now.
Another thing that has hindered me in my past games, was to hurry up and get to the big battle that was impending. The one in this game at Sian would be a good example. I am forcing myself to not get caught up in clicking the buttons just to get to "the good stuff".